Comments that get made on MFP about others...
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You posted a topic about one end of the spectrum, pushing the limits of the physical body. Whilst what you do takes dedication, hard work and endurance... It is an EXTREME and isn’t seen on a daily basis by most people.
Therefore you will get people who have strong opinions about it. I read an article on here the other day about a girl who was force feeding herself to be obese, you personally wouldn't have a view and opinion on that? But you are asking other people not to have an opinion on you?
If you only want people to sing your praises about it and do get easily offended by such innocuous comments, then don't post it on a public site. Go to a bodybuilding site with more like minded people who understand / appreciate what you do.
If this offends you....Then your arm will drop off. No, you will just "feel" offended.... Deal with it.
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I personally don't get the whole feeling the need to be outright ugly. If people don't like Yo's (or anyone's look, for that matter), there is no need to say so. If they feel so inclined to comment, they can easily say "while that is not the look I am going for, I appreciate the hard work and dedication it obviously took to get there..." or something like that, where it is not offensive to the MFP member whose pictures were posted.
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Yo's success story is not comparable to a "success" stories of someone being force fed in order to be unhealthy (or someone who is dangerously underweight from an eating disorder). Irrelevant. Her "extreme" is just better than most, not unhealthy. It's rude to make negative comments in a success thread. "Observations" about her not looking happy are pointless. Posting a success thread doesn't make someone open game to make observations about her hair color. It's not our business. Posting something on the internet doesn't give everyone else the automatic right to make comments without reaction. If you are going to criticize, be prepare for the person you are criticizing to not like it and to respond in kind.
If Matt had posted a thread that only this look is attractive and why don't all women want to look like this, he'd get whatever was coming to him.
Can someone just answer what the point is in making comments about someone's hair or lack of happiness in a success thread?0 -
Meh. It's the internet, where people tell other people to kill themselves. While I agree it speaks more to the psyche of the individual that makes the comment... it also speaks volumes on how you deal with it as well. I'm not saying the negative comments are right or should happen, because it's not and it shouldn't.
Just my opinon, ignoring, hiding, blocking people that continually make such comments would probably be a better way to go... particularly if it's the same people time and time again.0 -
My opinion is that the level of butt hurt on this site is WAY too high and everyone would benefit greatly if they just did their own thing and quit worrying about opinions from ridiculous people on internet forums.
(All the good butt hurt pics were sweary mcswearerson....)
This is truly the tamest message board/forum I frequent, and always the quickest for someone to get offended. The level of sensitivity here is incredible.0 -
This is truly the tamest message board/forum I frequent, and always the quickest for someone to get offended. The level of sensitivity here is incredible.
Same here. It's mind-boggling.
I think MFP is the first "real" internet experience for a lot of people. They are used to FB, in which they have personally screened who can and can't leave comments to their various posts.
Come here and finding themselves amidst a sea of strangers and their strange ways and it's a real culture shock for some people.0 -
You posted a topic about one end of the spectrum, pushing the limits of the physical body. Whilst what you do takes dedication, hard work and endurance... It is an EXTREME and isn’t seen on a daily basis by most people.
Therefore you will get people who have strong opinions about it. I read an article on here the other day about a girl who was force feeding herself to be obese, you personally wouldn't have a view and opinion on that? But you are asking other people not to have an opinion on you?
If you only want people to sing your praises about it and do get easily offended by such innocuous comments, then don't post it on a public site. Go to a bodybuilding site with more like minded people who understand / appreciate what you do.
If this offends you....Then your arm will drop off. No, you will just "feel" offended.... Deal with it.
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I'm with these ladies. No, it's never necessary to say mean or judgmental things, but it's not something that can be controlled. People suck and misery loves company.
When it comes to a site like this, it's a great place for inspiration and support. At the same time, however, weight-loss sites are havens of jealousy. You're doing well and achieving great progress. People who are not are going to find measly flaws and happily point them out, trying to bring you down. The only bad thing you can do in response is care...or take it seriously.
Man up, don't start a stupid forum fight because someone's an a-hole and doesn't have the sense to keep their mouth shut and mean comments to themselves. If you argue and fight about it you're just giving them what they want while encouraging the behavior.
Treat others the way you wish to be treated. Next time someone says something rude, mean, unnecessary, judgmental, etc, give them a compliment. You'll confuse them and make them drop it.
How one reacts to this sort of negativity and just rude, insensitive, a-holery, shows said person's true colors.0 -
My opinion is that the level of butt hurt on this site is WAY too high and everyone would benefit greatly if they just did their own thing and quit worrying about opinions from ridiculous people on internet forums.
(All the good butt hurt pics were sweary mcswearerson....)
This is truly the tamest message board/forum I frequent, and always the quickest for someone to get offended. The level of sensitivity here is incredible.
Agreed.
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In before the lock on yet ANOTHER "boohoo people can be sooo mean on the interwebz" post. Or maybe people are being funny or sarcastic but it is misinterpreted. Or maybe some folks have easy butthurtitis. Or maybe whothehellcares.0
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I absolutely agree. I get really disappointed in today's society of people who feel the need to always make themselves feel better by putting someone else down. It seems that the widely accepted form of criticism is to talk about people's weight. This website is here for the people that want to make a change. I don't see why there should be anything negative said about them. But, alas, it's not a perfect world. We also have to realize that we will not get along with everyone.
All we can do is support and motivate the best we can, and hope others follow our example.0 -
Your insecurity coupled with your ego is nauseating.0
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You know, I won't lie and say that I haven't formed my own opinion of the both of you, but a long the way, I realized that voicing those opinions doesn't really help anyone. Not you, not me, so I just keep them to myself.
Like you said, none of us know you personally, and therefore, we are not entitled to judgment. It is obvious that some level of hard work has been put in to attain results, and that is applaud worthy, but for as often as you are "sharing" it comes off as bragging and I'm not really all that surprised that you have garnered some negativity.
For what it's worth, I don't really think you and Yo deserve to bashed all the time. But then again, you don't really have to let it bother you either. Your persistent protestations of the way you are treated on this website is almost an invitation for people to criticize you.
I know you love Yo, and you are proud of her. But a few less threads about her success would go along way in stopping people from talking about the two of you behind your backs. I wish you all the best! :flowerforyou:0 -
I think some are jerks, who just want to knock other people down a peg.
Some are probably jealous- they envy whoever has succeeded where they have not and they then turn that individual's success into a "fox and the grapes" scenario. They haven't succeeded, so they're trying to convince themselves "success" isn't worthwhile or isn't what it's made out to be.
Others could be insecure. This can be tied in with "jealousy" but I think there's another flavor of insecurity around here. We have many different kinds of people here with many different goals and many different ways they try to reach those goals. We've got runners, bodybuilders, powerlifters, people looking to participate in specific sports, and some people just looking to lose weight. All of these goals are valid, and there are many valid approaches.
Some of these people may be well on their way to reaching their goals. Some may have already met with success in their own ways. Perhaps they've completed their first 5K or run their first marathon. Perhaps their BMI has finally entered into the "normal" range or they're back at their High School weight. But when they hear someone say "I've succeeded" and this individual has 1) a different definition of "success" and / or 2) has achieved this success in a different way, they become defensive. They want to defend their goals and / or their methodology and turn to making disparaging remarks about the success of others.
Why any of these people feel a need to post something here, I don't really know. Perhaps they're hoping that, by making these posts, they'll find some allies lurking around the internet who will reinforce their views or reassure them about their personal goals and techniques.
Myself, I'm cool with accepting that my goals, techniques, and views may not match up with someone else's. If someone has set a goal and is dilligently working towards it or has reached it, good on them.0 -
But why shouldn't people express opinions? We all want to live in a democracy and never be offended....:noway:0
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Talking behind your backs? Listen, only unhappy people let other people's success bother them. I have my own life that I'm busy with so I don't talk behind backs about people I don't know on the internet. That's nuts to me.
Also, I don't understand why you're letting it bother you to the extent that you're starting a thread? Are you happy with your success? Yes. Are you happy with Yo? Yes. So rise above it! And well done, it takes a lot of hard work to do what you both did so congrats on that. Now, no more 'poor me' threads please.0 -
You know, I won't lie and say that I haven't formed my own opinion of the both of you, but a long the way, I realized that voicing those opinions doesn't really help anyone. Not you, not me, so I just keep them to myself.
Like you said, none of us know you personally, and therefore, we are not entitled to judgment. It is obvious that some level of hard work has been put in to attain results, and that is applaud worthy, but for as often as you are "sharing" it comes off as bragging and I'm not really all that surprised that you have garnered some negativity.
For what it's worth, I don't really think you and Yo deserve to bashed all the time. But then again, you don't really have to let it bother you either. Your persistent protestations of the way you are treated on this website is almost an invitation for people to criticize you.
I know you love Yo, and you are proud of her. But a few less threads about her success would go along way in stopping people from talking about the two of you behind your backs. I wish you all the best! :flowerforyou:0 -
This is truly the tamest message board/forum I frequent, and always the quickest for someone to get offended. The level of sensitivity here is incredible.
Same here. It's mind-boggling.
I think MFP is the first "real" internet experience for a lot of people. They are used to FB, in which they have personally screened who can and can't leave comments to their various posts.
Come here and finding themselves amidst a sea of strangers and their strange ways and it's a real culture shock for some people.
Good point.
Sad.
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But why shouldn't people express opinions? We all want to live in a democracy and never be offended....:noway:
I hope democracy entails more important matters than Yo's hair. But in all seriousness, does this mean you are ok with people giving their opinions about your hair and body? You have an open profile with open pictures. You'll probably say no, because you didn't start a thread about it. But a success thread is not the place for negative opinions, they are pretty accepted as rah rah threads. Again, if Matt or Yo were to start a thread about how Yo's body is the ideal for everyone, that would be the place to voice contrary opinions.0 -
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...I truly feel some comments made on this forum are reflected on the individuals internal emotional issues and battles, on the world around them rather than the way I and/or others look.
Indeed, one can often look at the posters making the comment and their own look, style and dress sense and one gets a good idea of how one may perceive the world around them, their personal self worth and reasoning why they feel the need to come onto a thread where it is nothing but than that of success and happiness and make it about something else, despite repeated demonstrations by others to the opposite.
Comments I regularly see really in the negative sense often on here, are simply best guesses and say more about the poster than making them rather than the subject matter.
Opinions?
Then I will get this off my chest...I see alot of women post BEFORE pics when they are 9 months pregnant and their after pics where they are holding a 2 year old child. I think it's great that they've lost weight after having the child, however if they are counting their highest weight at 9 months pregnant, that's not really the truth because they probably lost 20 the moment they gave birth when the baby and the fluid burst out of them. LOL! I kinda think maybe they should weigh just after having the baby and that's THEIR weight (not plus baby and fluid), and take that as their starting weight. Just an observation though. I guess that could also go for people who get the skin surgery and they take off 20 pounds of skin. Did they really lose it? :sick:0 -
You can't sit on here and post CONSTANT threads about how great you and Yo are doing, and not expect some comments made about you two...
If you can't handle that, quit posting the threads..0 -
This is truly the tamest message board/forum I frequent, and always the quickest for someone to get offended. The level of sensitivity here is incredible.
Same here. It's mind-boggling.
I think MFP is the first "real" internet experience for a lot of people. They are used to FB, in which they have personally screened who can and can't leave comments to their various posts.
Come here and finding themselves amidst a sea of strangers and their strange ways and it's a real culture shock for some people.
Agreed... Any person who thinks that MFP is full of "haters" and "vile" people should visit a political forum or a mommy board... Hell, even Yahoo! Answers is worse than this.0 -
So glad that I don't know what th hell is going on here....0
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the internet. it's like this.
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Also, I don't understand why you're letting it bother you to the extent that you're starting a thread? Are you happy with your success? Yes. Are you happy with Yo? Yes. So rise above it! And well done, it takes a lot of hard work to do what you both did so congrats on that. Now, no more 'poor me' threads please.
couldn't have said it better myself. peace, love, and lifting. now let's move on0 -
But why shouldn't people express opinions? We all want to live in a democracy and never be offended....:noway:0
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This is truly the tamest message board/forum I frequent, and always the quickest for someone to get offended. The level of sensitivity here is incredible.
Same here. It's mind-boggling.
I think MFP is the first "real" internet experience for a lot of people. They are used to FB, in which they have personally screened who can and can't leave comments to their various posts.
Come here and finding themselves amidst a sea of strangers and their strange ways and it's a real culture shock for some people.
Agreed... Any person who thinks that MFP is full of "haters" and "vile" people should visit a political forum or a mommy board... Hell, even Yahoo! Answers is worse than this.
There are very few posters on this site that should be anywhere near a political forum/board. They're great entertainment though.0 -
Maybe you could keep your (I mean, Yo's) progress updates to your blog. That would tone down the negativity quite a bit.0
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Then I will get this off my chest...I see alot of women post BEFORE pics when they are 9 months pregnant and their after pics where they are holding a 2 year old child. I think it's great that they've lost weight after having the child, however if they are counting their highest weight at 9 months pregnant, that's not really the truth because they probably lost 20 the moment they gave birth when the baby and the fluid burst out of them. LOL! I kinda think maybe they should weigh just after having the baby and that's THEIR weight (not plus baby and fluid), and take that as their starting weight. Just an observation though. I guess that could also go for people who get the skin surgery and they take off 20 pounds of skin. Did they really lose it? :sick:
I know right?
Getting fat from being lazy and eating lots of bad food deserves more praise for losing weight than someone who loses weight after 9 months of eating for two, uncontrollable food cravings and inevitable physical body changes.0 -
Then I will get this off my chest...I see alot of women post BEFORE pics when they are 9 months pregnant and their after pics where they are holding a 2 year old child. I think it's great that they've lost weight after having the child, however if they are counting their highest weight at 9 months pregnant, that's not really the truth because they probably lost 20 the moment they gave birth when the baby and the fluid burst out of them. LOL! I kinda think maybe they should weigh just after having the baby and that's THEIR weight (not plus baby and fluid), and take that as their starting weight. Just an observation though. I guess that could also go for people who get the skin surgery and they take off 20 pounds of skin. Did they really lose it? :sick:
I know right?
Getting fat from being lazy and eating lots of bad food deserves more praise for losing weight than someone who loses weight after 9 months of eating for two, uncontrollable food cravings and inevitable physical body changes.
Uh oh, you did it now. In for all the people who tell you you're not supposed to be eating for two anyway.0
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