whats 'wrong' with too much cardio?

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i was thinking of upping my cardio, however from reading several recent success stories many people have converted from cardio to heavy lifting.

i think i have my idea wrong (pls someone out there correct me!) but i thought it was necessary to do cardio to get to my goal weight (135lbs-140lbs i am currently 152lb) then start lifting and weight training to tone up.

im really scared of starting weight lifting now because i really don't wont to put on any more muscle (which will make me heavier as muscle weighs more then fat- i know that!) before i have lost the weight i need. i actually have a quite a bit of muscle its just surrounded by flab!!

i currently run twice a week for about 4km and horse ride for 40-60mins twice a week. and i eat about about 1500-1600 kcals

would doing more cardio help my weight loss or not?
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  • kellehbeans
    kellehbeans Posts: 838 Member
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    A calorie deficit will help you lose weight - so in answer to your question - yes, cardio will help you lose weight as long as you have a calorie deficit. And you won't put on muscle on a calorie deficit. Lifting will just change your body composition and tone you up.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    Probably not.

    The problem with chronic cardio is that your body will build/develop the bare minimal muscle it requires to move your feet one foot in front of the other- or one foot up the stairs if you're into steppers.

    Cardio - cardiovascular. so once you have the minimal muscularture to do the actual MOVEMENT- all you are training is your cardiovascular system- you know- your heart and lungs.

    you are training 0 muscles.

    muscles continue to burn energy all day- so more muscles -more burn. I bet you if you started weight lifting you'd see a lot of improvement fairly quickly.
  • daniellemm1
    daniellemm1 Posts: 465 Member
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    bump because although I have started lifting I love my cardio!!!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    A calorie deficit will help you lose weight - so in answer to your question - yes, cardio will help you lose weight as long as you have a calorie deficit. And you won't put on muscle on a calorie deficit. Lifting will just change your body composition and tone you up.

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  • Amberonamission
    Amberonamission Posts: 836 Member
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    Don't get stuck on the number the scale sez. If 150 fits in a size 4 who cares if it is a 150. People who lift look better in their clothes. Ditch the scale and get a very tight pair of jeans to measure your progress.
  • weightloss_forsuccess
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    I used to feel the same way...but focus on a healthy weight, not your goal weight. I used to be all about the cardio, til my trainer proved the results of heavy lfiting. The muscle will melt the fat right off, and you have to purposely build muscle to get too muscular. Heavy lifting with a calorie defficit will just make the muscle you already have stronger. Trust me, the results are amazing and its okay to weigh more if you look skinnier!
  • SOCOLOCO87
    SOCOLOCO87 Posts: 128 Member
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    I say do both

    Weight training is another form of cardio.
  • billsica
    billsica Posts: 4,741 Member
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    no, cardio and lifting heavy won't help you lose weight at all. Only eating at a deficit.

    Right now you are dropping pounds of fat and muscle. The only way to put on muscle is to eat at a surplus. If you continue on your journey here is what is likely to happen.

    1) your going to reach your goal and have a lot of endurance. yeah!
    2) you aren't going to be happy with your body compesition
    3) you want to tone up with 3 - 5lb weights and zumba
    4) it doesn't work so you lift heavy
    5) now you have to eat at a surplus to build up muscle and gain 10 pounds
    6) cut and drop some body fat% because you started lifting the number on the scale doesn't mean anything to you anymore.
    7) post before and after pics of how hot you are
    8) Troll mfp boards / poptarts and ice cream

    you can skip a lot of this if you just go right to lifting heavy. Keep doing cardio too! I do both I love my runs.
  • mazdauk
    mazdauk Posts: 1,380 Member
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    If weight resistance is what builds muscle then exercise which uses muscles will do more than just increase your heart/lung capacity. Zumba has had a great effect on my legs in particular, and my toning DVDs have also helped.

    (To weight lifters who insist toning does not exist :tongue: I was weak as well as overweight and now my muscles are bigger and stronger.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
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    You won't put muscle on in a calorie deficit, and most definitely not any noticable amount. It's hard even for guys to do it in a deficit, let alone women. The notion you will get bulky is a fallacy created by womens magazines.

    Cardio is good for two things;
    1. Being better at cardio
    2. Creating a calorie deficit

    People make the switch because resistance training helps to preserve muscle and lean tissue mass as you lose weight.
  • byHISstrength
    byHISstrength Posts: 984 Member
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    Just an FYI...muscle does not weigh more than fat. One pound of muscle and one pound of fat both are one pound. :smile:
  • gatorginger
    gatorginger Posts: 947 Member
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    I think you should do both as I feel doing both is good for you as cardio is keeping you active and lifting is helping you tone up.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    I'm lifting and losing "fat" without losing Lean Body Mass. You can do a lot of cardio and then when you are at your goal weight still feel flabby and then want to lower your goal weight. Not necessary to wait to start lifting.

    @Mazdauk - I went from doing nothing to doing things like Zumba and Jillian Michaels, and yes there was an improvement in my fitness, but now I am lifting and you really can't compare. I had results showing in 3 weeks of lifting that I didn't have in over a year of zumba and Jillian.
  • BerryH
    BerryH Posts: 4,698 Member
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    Adding to a 4km run twice a week is hardly chronic cardio, people!

    Yes, extra cardio is one way of creating a calorie deficit. And resistance training will create more muscle which, as an active tissue, will burn more energy even at rest, reducing body fat and, if you maintain that calorie deficit, weight too. Plus it will help prevent running or horse-riding overuse injuries. Do both.

    Try adding one more run a week, and make each session different - say increase distance for one, hills in another, sprint intervals for the third.
  • savithny
    savithny Posts: 1,200 Member
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    If you wait to start lifting until you've lost all the weight, you will have lost a lot more muscle than if you lift while you are losing the weight.

    Waiting until the weight is gone and then "frming up" what's left? Is a misnomer. If you wait, the weight that is left, even though it is "normal weight' or "goal weight" will still be a mix of fat and muscle. You can't "firm up" fat. If you lift, you'll have a higher percentage of muscle and lower percentage of fat at your goal weight than if you wait.
  • RoseTears143
    RoseTears143 Posts: 1,121 Member
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    Why are girls so bent on the number they see on a scale? Your muscles need work too, it will keep your bones strong as well. You don't have to lift weights to work your muscles. You can do body weight bearing exercise (push-ups, pullups, squats, lunges, etc). You could actually be a smaller size at a higer weight if your muscles are tight and toned. You won't get "bulky" unless you start producing more testosterone and start taking 'roids and other supplements to allow huge muscle growth -_-. What you will get is a nice shape to your body.

    Edited for spelling.
  • tschaff04
    tschaff04 Posts: 296 Member
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    I struggle with this too. I see some cardio hate on the boards but I actually DO love running. I don't do it obsessively. But I run three times a week. I intend to start lifting heavy soon too, but I want to keep my running. I like it! lol
  • rob_base
    rob_base Posts: 97
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    wow muscle weighs more than fat?
  • palmerar
    palmerar Posts: 489 Member
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    There's no reason to not begin weight lifting in addition to cardio while losing. Maybe you can't build muscle, but why not go ahead and strengthen the muscles you already have.
  • ktrn0312
    ktrn0312 Posts: 723 Member
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    Incorporate some strength/resistance training along with cardio. I did make my target loss but, I was not too thrilled because I lack the sufficient muscle tone I was looking for. I did all cardio all the time. I look good with clothes on but, I really want to look good without clothes too. I learned the hard way. I am playing caught up now by doing strength workouts now. It's a case wish I knew then what I know now. The best advice is to do both & find a balance.