Quick Poll on Sugar

heywithers

How many of you believe fruit sugar (and not just one apple a day- I am talking different types of fruit through out the day) is absolutely 100% fine?
and does anyone else here subtract in their head the fruit/veggie sugar from their "sugar" column on the macros each day?

honeysprinkles

I don't even track my sugar, but I also don't eat a lot of fruit! but if I did, I wouldn't worry about it

melindasuefritz

1. yes i do
2. no i dont

lilmsrosie87

I think sugar from fruit is perfectly fine everyday. Of course as long as you don't over indulge

norcal_yogi

i only eat a small piece of fruit a day (if at all). i prefer berries.

OMGeeeHorses

I try to avoid all processed sugars as much as possible. So mainly all my sugar is normally fruit and I don't bother with tracking that as its all healthy and fiber filled from the fruit.

phoo513

Is sugar OK? Well, doesn't that depend on what we do with it and whether we are diabetic or not? Sugar is a normal food, so in a moderate amount it probably has its place in our diets. However, if I did moderate well, I wouldn't be in this mess in the first place! I guess what I am saying is use it carefully because if you tell yourself you Can't/Shouldn't Ever Touch It...... you will crave it like crazy and that will not be a good thing.

ppdes

I am a sugar-watcher :-) , yes it is important to watch sugar intake if you are carb/ sugar sensitive. For me:

1. Daily sugar intake needs to be in limit for me, because I seem to be sensitive to sugar.
2. I check even sugar content in all the other food items too, but I dont avoid them on purpose if they are high in sugar. I however try to minimise their intake / find a substitute for them if the glycemic index is high.

Eg: Potatos have very high glycemic index - between 90-110 depending on type, and this is higher even that the white sugar that we add to food items. So I try to limit potato to maximum of once a week.
If you're interested, please check links like http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/questionsandanswers/a/potatoglycemic.htm

VistaJerry

I definitely cut out sugar from my diet and stay away from too much fruit. However, I think I would've lost weight even with consuming a lot of fruit.

newmein2013

Yes, the natural sugar from fruit is 100% fine but I limit my fruits to one, sometimes two a day b/c I'm diabetic. I don't mentally subtract it from my total daily sugar b/c it's still sugar nonetheless. However, I don't get overly concerned if and when I go over my sugar for the day b/c I don't typically have refined sugar in my diet. As long as I'm eating healthy, I'm not worried. But when I do have refined sugar, I tend to go overboard and then I pay the price for it with my hyperglycemic symptoms.

Lyadeia

I lose the same amount of weight eating sugar from fruits or sugar from poptarts as long as the deficit is the same. I can be on an all-sugar diet or a proper diet, but as long as the deficit is the same, I drop fat.

In other words, I don't particularly care as long as I meet my protein and fat goals and stay within my calorie goal. I don't track sugar.

On the other hand, a diabetic like my mom tries to stay away from all sources of sugar. I think those with diabetes and other real metabolic abnormalities related to sugar are different, and those of us that are "normal" don't need to eat like diabetics to be healthy.

MyChocolateDiet

I believe fruit sugar (and not just one apple a day- I am talking different types of fruit through out the day) is absolutely 100% fine.

dogbehaviorconsultant

Hi,

According to my doctor, sugar is sugar, whether it comes from healthy fruit or a piece of cake or cookies. I'm diabetic and that is the fact. Now, if you are not concerned about blood sugar as I am then eating fruit is really good for you and has many nutritional values. In my case, however, I have to consider it because I need to limit my carbs (which are converted to sugar) and my sugar intake.

Sarauk2sf

I don't bother tracking it. I eat loads of fruit.

slkehl

A sugar molecule is a sugar molecule, whether it's in fruit or a candy bar. This is important to remember when it comes to dried fruit and 100% juice, which can pack in a lot of sugar into a small volume. There's also certain fruits that contain more sugar than others. For instance, grapes have much more sugar in them than strawberries. So, when I'm eating grapes, I try to stick to a handful at a time, meanwhile with strawberries I don't hold back.

Sarauk2sf

I am a sugar-watcher :-) , yes it is important to watch sugar intake if you are carb/ sugar sensitive. For me:

1. Daily sugar intake needs to be in limit for me, because I seem to be sensitive to sugar.
2. I check even sugar content in all the other food items too, but I dont avoid them on purpose if they are high in sugar. I however try to minimise their intake / find a substitute for them if the glycemic index is high.

Eg: Potatos have very high glycemic index - between 90-110 depending on type, and this is higher even that the white sugar that we add to food items. So I try to limit potato to maximum of once a week.
If you're interested, please check links like http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/questionsandanswers/a/potatoglycemic.htm

This is a good write up as to why you really do not need to worry about potatoes, or any high GI foods in general with regard to weight loss.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/532251-let-s-talk-about-the-gi-index

Lunachic77

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Sarauk2sf

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

genofreek

Fruit is fine, but I treat it like anything else. I track it and watch the portion sizes. Some people can get away with it, but I love sugar and have a body type never seems to put it to good use, so I try to be careful!

Lunachic77

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

That is the beauty of the internet...every one has a blog and disclaims this and that. I would take the knowledge of 10 doctors over a blogger any day of the week. Especially when it can be proven scientifically. Have you watched the full lecture, I realize it is an hour and a half, but it's not just the lecture portion it's the chemistry that really speaks volumes.

blackcloud13

I slashed just about all sugar (good and bad). Even with that, i still average double the MFP limit. I find it hard to believe that two bananas and a latte can possibly be too much sugar for one day!

Sarauk2sf

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

That is the beauty of the internet...every one has a blog and disclaims this and that. I would take the knowledge of 10 doctors over a blogger any day of the week. Especially when it can be proven scientifically. Have you watched the full lecture, I realize it is an hour and a half, but it's not just the lecture portion it's the chemistry that really speaks volumes.

I know how long it is. And LOL, Alan Aragon is not a just a blogger. Take the time to read/listen.


How about answering the questions?

Katmary71

I would've thought fruit was okay and shouldn't be in the same category if I hadn't gone pre-diabetic from a heavy fruit diet. I went on Fit for Life, an older eating plan that's still around, that is based on food combining. Basically, you eat fruit in the morning, have vegetables with either a grain or meat at lunch, and then the same choice for dinner, with veggies for snacks, One choice that can be made is to stay with fruit through dinner, as it's easily digestible and not as stressful on the system according to this plan.

Well, I DO think I ate too much fruit in that time period and if I had less or followed the program better it wouldn't have been as bad, but first my doctor was happy I was losing weight until my blood sugar tests results came back. They were almost doubled, so she sent me again and I was pre-diiabetic. Needless to say, I stopped eating so much fruit real fast!

I do know with a Dad with Type 2 diabetes that it rates in his blood sugar and can raise it just like sweets can (though cake vs. an apple is a huge difference). It's sad since he's been working out and is slender and my Mom has him eating well, but he has diabetes on both sides of his family (as do I). I feel in moderation and responsibly for those with diabetes is important, is my basic experience with how it affects blood sugar, plus how they rate in the Glycemic Index. I would like to think it's not as bad as true sugar, but it can be if eaten a lot.

Snow3y

yeah I don't even track sugars.. as long as i'm within my normal macros I'm fine

yarwell

The sugars in fruit - sucrose, glucose and fructose - are the same sugars as come in packets, drums and road tankers.

So I don't treat them as different in any way.

sozisraw

I treat non processed sugars eg fruit as golden nectar fuelling my body by the ' krebs cycle'

I changed my sugar macro to a vitamin C macro to track......far more motivating :happy:

TheVimFuego

Fruit's fine ... Packed with fibre, vitamins and whatnot.

Don't stress the fructose, we didn't get fat eating too many apples

Lunachic77

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

That is the beauty of the internet...every one has a blog and disclaims this and that. I would take the knowledge of 10 doctors over a blogger any day of the week. Especially when it can be proven scientifically. Have you watched the full lecture, I realize it is an hour and a half, but it's not just the lecture portion it's the chemistry that really speaks volumes.

I know how long it is. And LOL, Alan Aragon is not a just a blogger. Take the time to read/listen.


How about answering the questions?

It can be explained in the lecture with pretty, shiny pictures and everything...hence why I linked it. Take it down a notch...we're all entitled to an opinion.

yarwell

Fruit's fine ... Packed with fibre, vitamins and whatnot.

mainly water actually, then sugars, with some fibre and the odd vitamin for sure. Vegetables are better for fibre and vitamins / minerals.

Vastly oversold, we've been brainwashed. We were susceptible because it tastes nice.

neandermagnon

How many of you believe fruit sugar (and not just one apple a day- I am talking different types of fruit through out the day) is absolutely 100% fine?
and does anyone else here subtract in their head the fruit/veggie sugar from their "sugar" column on the macros each day?

i believe that anyone who thinks that there's anything bad about fruit sugar that comes from consuming whole fruit should call their local zoo and warn the zookeeper not to give fruit to any of the other primates.

Lyadeia

Sugar from fruit (fructose) (an actual fruit, not juice) is fine. Sugar from vegetables and milk (lactose) are fine. Fructose in the form of juice, table sugar, processed sugar (i.e. HFCS - mix of fructose & sucrose) are not good...literally processed as poison by your liver and stored as fat. The actual fruit is good because it is surrounded by fiber, starches, minerals which aid in proper digestion and breakdown. I used to wonder this all the time and I watched a very informative lecture with sexy facts, biochemistry analysis and breakdown which explained it perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Ummm....huh? Poison? Stored as fat? How?

Here is a better video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMc0_s-M08I

Also, a good article.

http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/01/29/the-bitter-truth-about-fructose-alarmism/

That is the beauty of the internet...every one has a blog and disclaims this and that. I would take the knowledge of 10 doctors over a blogger any day of the week. Especially when it can be proven scientifically. Have you watched the full lecture, I realize it is an hour and a half, but it's not just the lecture portion it's the chemistry that really speaks volumes.

I know how long it is. And LOL, Alan Aragon is not a just a blogger. Take the time to read/listen.


How about answering the questions?

It can be explained in the lecture with pretty, shiny pictures and everything...hence why I linked it. Take it down a notch...we're all entitled to an opinion.

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but why are you asserting that your opinion is superior by not even acknowledging the scientific research that is contrary to what you believe? When you deflect as you did, it makes your opinion less credible.