Learn different tricks folks or you wont make it!

becky2967 · November 2011

thanks for the tips i reduced my calorie intake from around 2-2,600aday to my now 1,200-1,800 i do get really hungry at times.. but i have finaly had my first proper loss 6.6lb this week. ( i even gained for first 3weeks ) i have tried upping my calories whilst increasing exercise this week with results. infact i have been burning basicly what i eat! need to find what works for me. url=http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker]

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Sidesteal · November 2011

You shouldnt loose weight while weight lifting.

Why not? I lost 10 lbs from September to current and all of my lifts went up.

I do apprecaite the motivation you bring and your attempt at helping but some of the information you are providing could easily steer someone down a path that's much more complicated and unneccessary than it needs to be.

candicole007 · November 2011

After losing the same 3 pounds over and over for a month, I've finally come to terms with a plateau - this is just what I needed this morning, thank you!

gvswaim · November 2011

Thank you

Helloitsdan · November 2011

Why not? I lost 10 lbs from September to current and all of my lifts went up.

I do apprecaite the motivation you bring and your attempt at helping but some of the information you are providing could easily steer someone down a path that's much more complicated and unneccessary than it needs to be.

It's an odd tradeoff right?
I'm in a bulk cycle right now and I still fluctuate.
Muscle burns more calories etc.

The main reason for the post was last night when I read 10 posts from a slew of ppl from all walks of life who jump feet first into extreme low cal dieting and they havent gone anywhere.

you look fantastic BTW! Ticket stub ripped!

I have tried a few of these tricks but not all of them.
I'm a fan of my carbs but im careful not to overdo them.

My main problem is the lack of research.
Nobody wants to do the footwork and they expect unreasonable goals to happen soon!

almost every reply to the posts last night from me was "Whats your maint cals?
And not one of them knew.
Scary!

KZOsMommy · November 2011

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Yori1 · November 2011

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oswaldbowser · November 2011

Suggested funk breakers!
1) Eat at maint cals for 2 weeks.
2) Carb cycle (this one sucks!) It works like a champ!
3) HIIT cardio 3 times a week 20 mins a session
4) Start introducing cheat weekends. Eat whatever and however but only up to maint calories.
5) Introduce more mono fats. This is one way I broke a funk! I started taking Flax, fish pills.
6) Adjust your sleeping habits. 8 hours gang! 8 HOURS!
7) Carb tapering. Eat most of your carbs in the AM then slowly taper them to nothing at night.
8) Up your weights used in training but lower your reps. This will create muscle so if you are against looking fantastic dont do it!
9) For those with great digestive systems but really overweight look into a burner. OxyElite is the best in my opinion but This is a last resort.
10) LeanGains approach. change your eating habits so you only eat within an 8hour window. the other 16 hours are water only. This causes your body to use fat stores as energy but maintains lean mass. This is the hardest one if you live with other people because they will be eating while you are in a fasting state.

reply to above
9) OxyElite like all singing and dancing supplements rarely work see post below.....try sensible diet and exercise !
10) it doesnt matter when you eat as long as you keep to your calories and I have proven this in a previous post

bad review given of oxyelite pro on website

Created by USP, a famous company often sold on sites like Nutraplanet.com, OxyElite Pro claims that you can finally get the fat burning and otherwise weight loss results that you are looking for. They claim that it will literally rip the fat off your body, and you can finally get all the appetite eradication, jolting energy production, and metabolic amplifiers to help you to get results in general.

What are the ingredients?
Bauhinia purpurea leaf and pod-otherwise known as the orchid plant, this has not actually been used in weight loss results

Bacopa monniera-often used in terms of helping you to gain nootropic benefits, this has not actually been used to promote weight loss

Geranium-an essential oil, this has been used as an antiseptic, anti inflammatory, etc, basically everything but an actual weight loss supplement.

Cirsium oligophyllum-rich in inulin, this does not actually promote any kind of weight loss results

Rauwolscine-yohimbine has been used as a natural aphrodisiac in many settings, not a weight loss supplement. But it has also been connected to heart attack, stroke, renal failure, and kidney failure in some cases.

Canescens-also known as azaleas, this has been known to promote certain essential oil based benefits. But those do not actually include weight loss

OxyElite Pro advantages
*it has all natural ingredients
*it has a proven nootropic ingredient

OxyElite Pro disadvantages
*it does not have any weight loss ingredients, focusing mostly on flowers
*it does not have the right amounts of anything
*it causes some serious side effects with an aphrodisiac

Bottom line
This formula will not actually help you to promote greater weight loss or any other benefits in general. OxyElite Pro is basically a formula made up of flowers. Flowers, in case you haven’t noticed, do not promote fat burning, appetite suppressing, or otherwise weight loss benefits in general. OxyElite Pro is one of those formulas that will not help you with the benefits in general that you are paying for.

JipsyJudy · November 2011

It's great to be young a healthy and be able to do all of that stuff you suggested. Once upon a time, I could do all that. Those of us who are diabetic have to manage carbs differently from you, and those of us who are older and a little arthritic have to exercise more gently. But I do want to say hip hurray for your suggestions about taking a break and going on maintenance for a couple of weeks. It took me 40 years of dieting to realize I should do that! And once you get to be the master of your own maintenance, you won't binge, and you can go on a maintenance vacation whenever you need to do that.

Helloitsdan · November 2011

It's great to be young a healthy and be able to do all of that stuff you suggested. Once upon a time, I could do all that. Those of us who are diabetic have to manage carbs differently from you, and those of us who are older and a little arthritic have to exercise more gently. But I do want to say hip hurray for your suggestions about taking a break and going on maintenance for a couple of weeks. It took me 40 years of dieting to realize I should do that! And once you get to be the master of your own maintenance, you won't binge, and you can go on a maintenance vacation whenever you need to do that.

Check out www.scoobysworkshop.com he has great plans for everyone and even talks about arthritis and diabetes.
I love his videos!

dargytaylor · November 2011

thanks for the info!

jem728 · November 2011

Thanks for the tips.

fireman300 · November 2011

Thanks, been looking for a few ways, I seem to loose...then stall for a week or two then lose again...and I still have a long way to go.

TavistockToad · November 2011

Hey, thanks for the tips. I'm barely losing any weight despite serious weight lifting and a good amount of cardio. I'm only eating my 1200 calories a day, no exercise points. I'm scared to go over that, worried I'll gain! But it looks like I may have to try it.

You probably arent losing weight BECAUSE of the amount of exercise you do and the fact that you dont eat your exercise calories.

agearhart0410 · November 2011

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Helloitsdan · November 2011

My main concern with this post is that you've only been at this 6 months and you have already tried all of these "tricks"
How can you possibly know what is working and what is not if you aren't giving it anytime?
Sure, these things worked for you, but isn't it possible that had you stuck with what you were doing, you would have seen results as well?

I do agree things need to be changed up on occasion.
But doing all the things you mentioned in a 5 month period seems pretty impatient.

PS: I've only tried a couple of these.
These items have been passed down to me.
I use OxyElite and it gives me a huge jolt of energy.
Mental? Maybe but I like it as a Pre-workout in the AM.
Abundant energy!
The Fish, Flax pills are fantastic. The omega3 in it supposedly helps with stress as well?
I'n january I'll be starting the LeanGains approach but I need to get my wife involved because she loves eating at night.
Screw carb cycling! I love my fruits and probably wont be cutting those down.

My realistic goal here is over the next year to put on appx 10lb of muscle with minimal fat gains.
I'll be doing that through proper clean bulking and cuts.

In the beginning I didnt have a lot of help so I only did the food part of dieting but after researching and talking to friends in the business, This list was what was given!
=D

andrejjorje · November 2011

+1

Your body is like a child
In the beginning it does pretty much everything you tell it
Its hungry for this new way of life
The results are amazing
but
over time
Its seen all the tricks
Watched all the shows you're putting on
It stops paying attention
You get frustrated and keep doing the same things
maybe you ask and someone says "lower your calories below whats recommended"
This doesnt help
You need to learn the new tricks!

If you are new to weight loss understand that at times you will stall out.
The best approach to this is understanding what your body needs on a daily basis.
I want you to throw out the term BMI.
Its useless!
Adopt the term BMR, the calories your body needs to live while in a coma
and
Maintenance Calories.
Once you have these 2 numbers you can do anything with your body DIET wise until it learns and adapts.
For some ppl this adaptation could take months.
For some it could take weeks.
Case and point when I started this lifestyle 170 something days ago I was 160lbs and fat.
After doing the calculations I found out that my maint calories per day were appx 2200.
I reduced my caloric intake down 20% appx 1780ish.
My weight started coming off.
I could swing it the other way if I wanted to Gain.
The thing to remember in a cut situation is your body will loose a good amount of weight but at some point will say "Nope! No more! I love the fat! you can reduce more but not one more % of fat is coming off this puppy!"
What will you do?
You drink all the water
You run
You strength train
Nothing works!

Suggested funk breakers!
1) Eat at maint cals for 2 weeks.
2) Carb cycle (this one sucks!) It works like a champ!
3) HIIT cardio 3 times a week 20 mins a session
4) Start introducing cheat weekends. Eat whatever and however but only up to maint calories.
5) Introduce more mono fats. This is one way I broke a funk! I started taking Flax, fish pills.
6) Adjust your sleeping habits. 8 hours gang! 8 HOURS!
7) Carb tapering. Eat most of your carbs in the AM then slowly taper them to nothing at night.
8) Up your weights used in training but lower your reps. This will create muscle so if you are against looking fantastic dont do it!
9) For those with great digestive systems but really overweight look into a burner. OxyElite is the best in my opinion but This is a last resort.
10) LeanGains approach. change your eating habits so you only eat within an 8hour window. the other 16 hours are water only. This causes your body to use fat stores as energy but maintains lean mass. This is the hardest one if you live with other people because they will be eating while you are in a fasting state.

Please feel free to add to this list.
I'm in now way perfect and i'm learning this life also!

I hope this helps for some of the folks who feel stuck.
I know that I've hit several walls in my journey but each one of these suggestions has helped me in the past.
We really have to trick our bodies into getting the fat off.
After that its time to build that lean mass.
But thats for another post.

Add me!
Hugs!
Dan

andrejjorje · November 2011

Reduce another 200 cal for the next 2 weeks and see what's happening.

Hey, thanks for the tips. I'm barely losing any weight despite serious weight lifting and a good amount of cardio. I'm only eating my 1200 calories a day, no exercise points. I'm scared to go over that, worried I'll gain! But it looks like I may have to try it.

grannygethealthy1111 · November 2011

Great tips for a 30+ something year old who only has less than 20 pounds to lose! I would beg to differ on OxyElite. The answer to PERMANENT weight loss is never found in a pill.

Oops! Less than 30 pounds to lose. My bad.

Helloitsdan · November 2011

Reduce another 200 cal for the next 2 weeks and see what's happening.

Hey, thanks for the tips. I'm barely losing any weight despite serious weight lifting and a good amount of cardio. I'm only eating my 1200 calories a day, no exercise points. I'm scared to go over that, worried I'll gain! But it looks like I may have to try it.

Do not reduce anymore. You need to stay above your BMR. 1200 calories would be a 4 foot tall person at about 90-100lbs.
this can drop your nutritional intake too low even for proper body function.

Please do not go lower.