What's the point of exercising?

My daily goal is 1,420 calories to lose 2 lbs per week. Although I was "under" my calorie limit today it still totalled out to be 2,141. Now that I think about it..I run for an hour, sweating, and wheezing just to burn 800 calories, just to eat them back again?
I understand the physical benefits of exercise such as building stamina, endurance, and other benefits but let's talk weight loss wise... should I even be eating those calories back?
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  • MSimm62385
    MSimm62385 Posts: 227
    Well I'm one of those that sticks to my calorie limit every day but does NOT eat the cals back. If I ate them back I would not be losing 1 lb a week.

    So cals burned only speeds up the weight loss process.
  • Meganalva
    Meganalva Posts: 282 Member
    I suppose it's not absolutely positively necessary to LOSE the weight...but if you'd like to tone up and gain some muscle, it's definitely necessary. I lost weight after my 2nd child and looked thin and sickly, no muscle. After my 3rd child, I worked it off and I feel so much better. I'm firm & tight, I look leaner, I fit in smaller clothes than I did when I had no muscle. Well worth it!
  • kaseysospacey
    kaseysospacey Posts: 499 Member
    I don't eat back.
  • darrcn5
    darrcn5 Posts: 495 Member
    Personally, I find that I lose weight easier by exercising some of the calories off versus just calorie restriction. I think it is better for my metabolism to eat 1700 calories and burn 350 calories rather than just eat 1350 calories. Also, resistance training and weight lifting have helped firm my body up. Calorie restriction alone can't do that!
  • ptak1sm
    ptak1sm Posts: 172
    Whether or not you eat back your exercise cals back is entirely your choice, although I would recommend eating at least some of them. I eat back a portion of mine, but not all, and my current settings are for 1lb/wk weight loss. Eating back the exercise cals hasn't hurt me at all.
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    It's not necessary for weight loss if you're in a caloric deficit. But why would you not want the added benefits of exercise? Heart disease, high blood pressure, strength, stamina, etc.

    Edited: Sorry, didn't answer your last question. Yes, you should eat back your calories or at least a portion (in case you calculated your food wrong or your exercise cals aren't accurate). You need to refuel your body.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    Exercising is good for you. Your body was designed to function in motion and you will not only look better but feel better if you use it! Diet helps you look good....exercise helps you look good Naked. As to eating back your calories, that's how MFP is designed to work. You have a built in deficit. If you don't exercise,you're still at that deficit and should lose weight. If you're like me, you want a bit more food than that...you exercise and earn it. Its win-win.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    the way you exercise will determine how much of your lean body mass you keep while you lose.

    if you're following the MFP wauy you should eat back your calories because it doesnt take your complete TDEE into account when figuring out your calorie goal.

    i personally dont eat my exercise calorie goals back, but then again i manually changed my calorie goal to something that takes my activity into account. so for instance instead of eating 1200 calories +exercise calories, i eat 1750-2000 calories a day and log my exercise calories as 1
  • momtokgo
    momtokgo Posts: 446 Member
    I eat back if I'm hungry, if I'm not, I don't.

    But I work out because it makes me feel good, I like running, wheezing and sweating, it makes me feel great actually. And as a mom of 3, my time at the gym is the only quiet time I get usually.
  • invictus8
    invictus8 Posts: 258 Member
    If by exercise you mean (1) running or jogging for 50-60 minutes or (2) doing anything on the elliptical (etc.) for 50+ minutes... the answer is no. I stick to lifting heavy objects and sprinting (more or less).
  • Vonwarr
    Vonwarr Posts: 390 Member
    My daily goal is 1,420 calories to lose 2 lbs per week. Although I was "under" my calorie limit today it still totalled out to be 2,141. Now that I think about it..I run for an hour, sweating, and wheezing just to burn 800 calories, just to eat them back again?
    I understand the physical benefits of exercise such as building stamina, endurance, and other benefits but let's talk weight loss wise... should I even be eating those calories back?

    It can be for several reasons. I wouldn't recommend sweating off as much as 800 "just" to eat them back every day... In fact, I struggle to fit that many more calories into my already somewhat packed day! But... if you were going out for a night... or to a fancy restaurant, etc... you could work out earlier in the day, and enjoy a wider range of selections in the evening!

    Another reason, exercise will help you maintain your lean body mass while losing fat. With only dieting you lose muscle as well as fat - an extreme deficit can cause up to 30% of the weight lost to be muscle. Losing fat isn't a sprint, it's a marathon... You're better off (and will be able to maintain at a weight better) if you lose weight in a slower, controlled manner.

    Yet another reason that many exercise is that they don't feel full on the lower level of calories, so exercising allows them to eat more food. If you feel like you "have" to as opposed to "want" to, then don't worry about it. :)

    Personally, I highly recommend eating back a good portion of the exercise calories - I try to eat back at least 50% of them, or 75%+ for small burns (< 300 calories). Too large of a deficit will eventually hurt you - especially if you are consistently eating well under your BMR.
  • xshortiex
    xshortiex Posts: 120 Member
    I never eat back all of the calories I burn.
    If I get hungry, I'll eat some of them back (maybe half, depending how much I burned), otherwise I don't worry about it. If you're not hungry, don't eat your burned calories back.
  • eatcleanNtraindirty
    eatcleanNtraindirty Posts: 444 Member
    Yes. When you workout whether it be run, bike, swim, or lift weights you are building not only cardiovascular stamina but you are also building muscle tissue. You might not think having muscle tissue is necessary or a "big deal". Maybe you don't need/want muscle tone, or maybe you don't want to "have big muscles". But the necessity of muscle tissue is that it helps to protect your vital organs. If you say, bumped your side, oblique, stomach on a corner or edge of furniture or you car. Your vital organs like your kidneys or liver wouldn't get bruised if you had maybe half an inch more muscle tissue to buffer the impact.

    The importance for muscle tissue for over all FAT LOSS is such:
    Skeletal muscles burn the most calories. Fat, bone, and skin burn calories at such a slow rate it isn't even mentioning. If you want to have prolonged weight loss, maintaining, or toning, you NEED lean muscle tissue. If you want to keep the weight off from losing a ton of weight, of course over all calorie intake is important, lean muscle tissue is going to help you do that.
  • AFitJamie
    AFitJamie Posts: 172 Member
    My daily goal is 1,420 calories to lose 2 lbs per week. Although I was "under" my calorie limit today it still totalled out to be 2,141. Now that I think about it..I run for an hour, sweating, and wheezing just to burn 800 calories, just to eat them back again?
    I understand the physical benefits of exercise such as building stamina, endurance, and other benefits but let's talk weight loss wise... should I even be eating those calories back?

    So... Let's talk weight loss... Yes, you should exercise and you should eat back a portion of your exercise calories.

    In your example, if you eat 1400 calories and work out to burn 800, then for the day, you have provided your body only 600 calories. You can't do this consistently... Your body will draw from energy stores to fuel itself, but at this large of a deficit, you are likely to consume more muscle mass than you want since your body REALLY needs energy... even though you are using your muscles which helps retain muscle mass, the caloric gap is simply too strong... There are a LOT of other adaptations that your body makes when on such a large deficit - Yes your metabolic rate decreases (not to insane proportions that will offset all the calorie deficit, but), but it does decrease, and there are a number of hormonal responses that other experts here are more capable of describing and outlining the impact of.. suffice to say you don't want then to happen.

    To lose weight in a healthy manner - slow and steady wins in my book every time... make this a lifestyle change you can live with forever - not a diet... so count calories, create a moderate deficit (people with more to lose can generally sustain a larger deficit, but that gets us off topic...) workout and eat back your exercise calories so your daily "net" is providing a reasonable amount of fuel for your body. (and try to get a good burn number from your exercise - a heart rate monitor may help)

    there are lots of benefits to working out - not just the physical ones, you may be able to have the meal you *want* to have instead of the meal you *have* to have given the extra calories...
  • ladyace2078
    ladyace2078 Posts: 460 Member
    Because the scale has been the worst indicator of my success and food restriction sucks.
  • emmeylou
    emmeylou Posts: 175 Member
    My doctor thinks that exercising for weight loss is absolutely pointless (at least for the seriously overweight/obese). Exercising for the physical benefits? Great. But he flat out said that exercising would not make a significant difference with weight loss. I found it very interesting... and it proved to be true. I didn't start really exercising until after I lose the bulk of my weight.
  • yoobie
    yoobie Posts: 16
    For a simple answer: Muscle burns fat. So the more muscles you build, the faster you will lose fat.

    For the politically correct answer: Muscle requires more energy from your body than fat. The more muscles you have, the more calories your body needs to keep working. Now, when you eat an excess of calories, your body stores the excess calories as fat so that if they need energy later, it's there. You will only lose fat when you have a caloric deficit because only then will your body need to go into its storage and start feeding on those fat calories.

    Back to your question...
    By working on building more muscle, this will lead to more calorie expenditure when you're resting as well. And, when you are working your muscles, your body will be less likely to start munching on muscle weight (because you're using them). Working out will basically accelerate your weight loss journey. Be sure to include some weight-lifting! With a caloric deficit, your body won't be building up "steroid" muscles, and like I said, muscles will burn burn burn.

    Warning!
    You can't only do weights without cardio because since muscles are heavier than fat, your heart will need to work harder to keep moving the muscles so your cardiovascular system and your muscular build need to improve together. Without a strong cardio system to support your newfound muscles, your heart will be stressed out and can lead to complications!
  • AFitJamie
    AFitJamie Posts: 172 Member
    My doctor thinks that exercising for weight loss is absolutely pointless (at least for the seriously overweight/obese). Exercising for the physical benefits? Great. But he flat out said that exercising would not make a significant difference with weight loss. I found it very interesting... and it proved to be true. I didn't start really exercising until after I lose the bulk of my weight.

    You might like this article:

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/exercise-and-weightfat-loss-part-1.html

    He discusses the fact that the impact of workouts, in general, on the calorie in vs calorie out equation isn't really that large - certainly by comparison to the impact diet can have. Obviously there are reasons to workout... I found it interesting...
  • dvisser1
    dvisser1 Posts: 788 Member
    My doctor thinks that exercising for weight loss is absolutely pointless (at least for the seriously overweight/obese). Exercising for the physical benefits? Great. But he flat out said that exercising would not make a significant difference with weight loss. I found it very interesting... and it proved to be true. I didn't start really exercising until after I lose the bulk of my weight.

    From a purely weight loss perspective, that's true, especially for the significantly overweight. However, from a healthy and fitness perspective it's utter nonsense. You can be thin and at proper weight without ever doing any exercise, but that does not mean you're fit.
  • kaseysospacey
    kaseysospacey Posts: 499 Member
    For many, I think its easier to diet until a reasonable weight is reached and then exercise to become more fit. Many obese people have a hard time moving at all and cannot accomplish much. Age, weight, it all varies. Ad to lean body mass loss, my nutritionist and doctor told me that keeping protein higher and carbs lower will prevent lean body mass loss. Protein also helps your body burn fat. I do exercise, because it makes me feel better but I know that diet is about 100% of my weight loss at this point. I don't log it really anymore, I let my fitbit adjust if needed because my days can vary widely, depending on whats going on with my kids and stuff.
  • selanders
    selanders Posts: 16 Member
    I don't eat all my exercise calories back, usually around half, unless I am feeling really hungry or weak. Then I take that as a message from my body that I need more fuel.

    What's the point? - A big bonus of exercise is that if you are gaining muscle, you will also increase your BMR (you will increase your daily calorie burn). Being fit also helps prevent muscle from being LOST as you also lose fat (so you don't become "skinny fat" at the end). Finally, having a strong, healthy body feels fantastic!

    :) Good luck, and I hope you keep exercising! If you are feeling burnt out, take it easy for a while. You don't have to burn 800 calories every time you work out.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    Warning!
    You can't only do weights without cardio because since muscles are heavier than fat, your heart will need to work harder to keep moving the muscles so your cardiovascular system and your muscular build need to improve together. Without a strong cardio system to support your newfound muscles, your heart will be stressed out and can lead to complications!
    Since most people on MFP are eating at a caloric deficit (some at VERY significant deficits) and the OP is a female, it's only fair to mention that building any appreciable amounts of muscle under those conditions is very, very difficult, so the above concern is basically a moot point. Weight training *will* help maintain the lean muscle mass you have and encourage fat loss over LBM loss, and thus is much more beneficial than cardio for people eating at caloric deficits and losing weight. Very few people are going to be packing on muscle when eating at large deficits, no matter how hard, heavy or often they weight train.
  • marieautumn
    marieautumn Posts: 928 Member
    i eat my calories back because i'm on a 1200 cals a day plan, and i burn about 600- 800 calories during exercise. That would only leave me 400-600 net calories which is not enough. Plus i've found the more i eat, the more weight i lose.
  • yoobie
    yoobie Posts: 16
    Warning!
    You can't only do weights without cardio because since muscles are heavier than fat, your heart will need to work harder to keep moving the muscles so your cardiovascular system and your muscular build need to improve together. Without a strong cardio system to support your newfound muscles, your heart will be stressed out and can lead to complications!
    Since most people on MFP are eating at a caloric deficit (some at VERY significant deficits) and the OP is a female, it's only fair to mention that building any appreciable amounts of muscle under those conditions is very, very difficult, so the above concern is basically a moot point. Weight training *will* help maintain the lean muscle mass you have and encourage fat loss over LBM loss, and thus is much more beneficial than cardio for people eating at caloric deficits and losing weight. Very few people are going to be packing on muscle when eating at large deficits, no matter how hard, heavy or often they weight train.

    That's true, she won't be like those men that only weight train that end up running quarter of a mile breaking down wheezing. But I think that everything about a good lifestyle is balance..The last part was a bit exaggerated purely to cover my *kitten* about possible complications in the rare case that her cardio is significantly weak, and her body type accumulates muscles faster than most, then focusing completely on only building lean muscle "could" lead to aforementioned complications. BUT you are right! If she has an average build with average cardio, there could be no complications. In the paragraphs before, I emphasize the benefits of weight training! :)
  • yoobie
    yoobie Posts: 16
    My daily goal is 1,420 calories to lose 2 lbs per week. Although I was "under" my calorie limit today it still totalled out to be 2,141. Now that I think about it..I run for an hour, sweating, and wheezing just to burn 800 calories

    I also wanted to ask you, are you sure you are burning 800 calories? I use a heart rate monitor and calculate my calories burned using this site http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/calories-burned-by-heart-rate-calculator/. I'm sure if it isn't accurate, someone will enlighten me about that as well lol. But let's just say it is...

    For me, 22 yrs old & @138 lbs, I would have to be at an average heart rate of ~186 for the entire 60 minutes to lose 800 calories in that hour. My maximum heart rate (MHR) is 188 (220-your age) and as a reference, there are 4 heart rate zones: weight management (60%-70% * MHR) considered the lowest training intensity. This zone is good for beginners and those who want to strengthen their cardio. Aerobic (70%-80% * MHR) increases strength and endurance. It works within the body's oxygen intake capability, burns more calories and can last longer. Anaerobic Threshold (80%-90% * MHR) generates speed and power. It works at or above the body's oxygen intake capability, builds more muscle and cannot be maintained for a long time. Finally, 90%-100% (which is where I have to be to burn 800 calories in 60 minutes) is called a Red Line Zone, which is maximum capacity.

    Basically, long story short: make sure you're not over-counting your burn!
  • chrisdavey
    chrisdavey Posts: 9,834 Member
    answered here
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/697261-whoa-whoa-whoa-you-can-t-burn-fat-via-exercise

    And also if all you're doing is running then that is not in you're best interest if you are looking to lose FAT not just weight.
  • Is 45 minutes to an hour of exercise a few times a week an acceptable price to pay for a few slices of pizza here or there, chocolate cake, wine, maybe even an entire cheat day every so often?

    F---k yes.

    I'm not planning on eating like a Spartan the rest of my life, so I exercise.

    Not to mention the health benefits of exercise--both physical (heart health, lung capacity) and mental (endorphins, higher confidence, relaxation).

    It's a no-brainer. How some people can be happy on calorie restriction alone I don't get.
  • Kdubuclet
    Kdubuclet Posts: 9 Member
    Wow..lot of great posts and advice. The bigger question in my mind is how do you want to see your body? Do want to see a tone body or just fit into those size [insert desired size] pants? Sure, reduce your calories, do no exercise you will lose weight, of course as long as your are still eating (starvation tends to hold onto calories). If you want a toned body and happy mixture of cardio and weights are always nice. If you don't like the hour runs/cardio, then don't do them, or find an hour cardio you might like. I mix my cardio between zumba, boxing(conditioning), mui thai, running, elliptical and cycling. Instead of doing hour cardio sessions try doing a 15 to 30 cardio set by some focused muscle group weight training and try not to consume too many calories. Just my thought.

    IMO, I believe that aside from trying to lose weight, there is much to gain from exercising that can have a positive impact on overall health and well being. If exercising for you is boring or tedious...mix it up and make it fun again and less like a chore :)
  • dvmagic
    dvmagic Posts: 1
    Because the scale has been the worst indicator of my success and food restriction sucks.
    I agree. I've been at or below my calculated 1 lb/week goal every day. By the books I should be losing a pound a week. So far, zip. Some days, I GAIN 2-3 lbs. I'm beginning to wonder if my scale is broken. :)
  • My daily goal is 1,420 calories to lose 2 lbs per week. Although I was "under" my calorie limit today it still totalled out to be 2,141. Now that I think about it..I run for an hour, sweating, and wheezing just to burn 800 calories

    I also wanted to ask you, are you sure you are burning 800 calories? I use a heart rate monitor and calculate my calories burned using this site http://www.calculatorpro.com/calculator/calories-burned-by-heart-rate-calculator/. I'm sure if it isn't accurate, someone will enlighten me about that as well lol. But let's just say it is...

    For me, 22 yrs old & @138 lbs, I would have to be at an average heart rate of ~186 for the entire 60 minutes to lose 800 calories in that hour. My maximum heart rate (MHR) is 188 (220-your age) and as a reference, there are 4 heart rate zones: weight management (60%-70% * MHR) considered the lowest training intensity. This zone is good for beginners and those who want to strengthen their cardio. Aerobic (70%-80% * MHR) increases strength and endurance. It works within the body's oxygen intake capability, burns more calories and can last longer. Anaerobic Threshold (80%-90% * MHR) generates speed and power. It works at or above the body's oxygen intake capability, builds more muscle and cannot be maintained for a long time. Finally, 90%-100% (which is where I have to be to burn 800 calories in 60 minutes) is called a Red Line Zone, which is maximum capacity.

    Basically, long story short: make sure you're not over-counting your burn!


    Hey thanks for that website. It looks like I am overestimating by a little. I actually burn 700 cals. 100 off not too bad. I'm 5'7, weigh 215lbs. I check my heart rate often by holding the handle bars and typically it's around 175-185. Of course you wouldn't burn the same amount of calories as me if we did the same incline, speed, time because you weigh a lot lower than me.