Alternative Day Fasting

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  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    Lots of different opinions here, but I am trialling this for 4 weeks, and if I start binge eating, or find I am eating double the calories on the unrestricted day, then I will re-think. I'm still only mildly hungry, at 6.20pm.

    I thought that the most interesting information online came from someone who uses this way of eating to control the inflamation in his knee, and definitely does not want to lose weight - his blog post is at:

    <http://predicatedlife.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/nuts-and-bolts-of-alternate-day-fasting&gt;
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    I'm sorry to hear about your dog, jsygurl. I hope she's doing better and good luck with the rest of your day. :smile:

    Thank you, Daisy has Kennel cough, and was not choking to death as feared. She has already started responding to the antibiotics and anti-inflamatories, and is breathing much easier. No idea where she picked it up, she hasn't been near any other dogs, apart from our other dog, as she is scared of them.

    I'm quite enjoying today too thank you - it's good to do without my old adversary food for a bit - a bit of a relief not thinking what to buy, or cook!
  • bagge72
    bagge72 Posts: 1,377 Member
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    I think this can work if you don't take it literal, and actually eat anything you want on the non-fasting periods. Like anything else if you eat crap foods, and go way over your calories this isn't going to work, and I gaurantee you the people who lost weight doing this knew that. So just do a lot of research, and you should be fine, but don't go buying everything on the dollar menu on the non-fasting days!
  • bagge72
    bagge72 Posts: 1,377 Member
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    Also while you're on your fasting days take some BCAA's to help your body from using your muscle as a source of energy instead of fat, and I found green tea, and lots of water kept the cravings down when I tried it. I did be a little bit of an a$$hat towards the end of the day though which is the only time I really felt hungry or tired.
  • phoenix8633
    phoenix8633 Posts: 137 Member
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    I'm going to watch the programme at some point this week, I am considering giving it a go for maybe a month just to see if anything happens.
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    Sounds like a plan. Different things suit different people, maybe this will suit us!
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    Also while you're on your fasting days take some BCAA's to help your body from using your muscle as a source of energy instead of fat, and I found green tea, and lots of water kept the cravings down when I tried it. I did be a little bit of an a$$hat towards the end of the day though which is the only time I really felt hungry or tired.

    What is a BCAA? And I wondered - were you on a total fast? On this plan I eat one meal of up to 522 calories on my restricted days, so maybe I just wont get that hungry. I did see a blog from someone who did 24 hour fasting/ 24 hour eating, but she started at 6pm, which seemed a sensible idea, and may suit you if you do it again.
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    Interesting blog who came up with an intermittent fasting idea all by themselves

    http://forgetdietingforever.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/experimenting.html
  • bagge72
    bagge72 Posts: 1,377 Member
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    Also while you're on your fasting days take some BCAA's to help your body from using your muscle as a source of energy instead of fat, and I found green tea, and lots of water kept the cravings down when I tried it. I did be a little bit of an a$$hat towards the end of the day though which is the only time I really felt hungry or tired.

    What is a BCAA? And I wondered - were you on a total fast? On this plan I eat one meal of up to 522 calories on my restricted days, so maybe I just wont get that hungry. I did see a blog from someone who did 24 hour fasting/ 24 hour eating, but she started at 6pm, which seemed a sensible idea, and may suit you if you do it again.

    They are Branched Chain Amino Acids, and they help keep your body in an anabolic state, pretty much only useful if you are in caloric deficit.
    I did a 24 hour fast. So I had my last meal at dinner time, and then didn't eat until dinner time the next day, and it was pretty easy, beacuse you are a sleep for a big chunk of time!
  • theartichoke
    theartichoke Posts: 816 Member
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    I read this link and don't understand half of what he was saying. This in particular:

    "However, whereas calorie restriction improved tissue redox state, food restriction and intermittent feedings did not. In fact, long-term intermittent feeding resulted in largely enhanced tissue release of oxidants."

    I you could translate for me I'd be grateful!

    ETA: I started IF (leangains) last week and am quickly realising that, though I love it, I know very little about it.
  • bagge72
    bagge72 Posts: 1,377 Member
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  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    I read this link and don't understand half of what he was saying. This in particular:

    "However, whereas calorie restriction improved tissue redox state, food restriction and intermittent feedings did not. In fact, long-term intermittent feeding resulted in largely enhanced tissue release of oxidants."

    I you could translate for me I'd be grateful!

    ETA: I started IF (leangains) last week and am quickly realising that, though I love it, I know very little about it.

    Umm, can't help you I'm afraid.
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    That was a very interesting read, thank you.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
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    Also while you're on your fasting days take some BCAA's to help your body from using your muscle as a source of energy instead of fat, and I found green tea, and lots of water kept the cravings down when I tried it. I did be a little bit of an a$$hat towards the end of the day though which is the only time I really felt hungry or tired.

    Do you have any BCAA supplements you recommend?
  • Benphi91
    Benphi91 Posts: 31 Member
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    Personally, I'm going to try fasting once a week, where I'll eat dinner and then nothing until dinner the next day.
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    Personally, I'm going to try fasting once a week, where I'll eat dinner and then nothing until dinner the next day.

    Let me know how it goes.
  • evaleung87
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    Bump. I watched this too and found it very interesting as well! Might give it a go..
  • jsygurl
    jsygurl Posts: 28 Member
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    I thought I would round up my first three days of a semi-fast on alternate days. On Wednesday and today I only ate at lunch time. I picked lunchtime as I don't really get hungry in the morning, and my evenings are busy - but felt that I would not manage a whole day at work with no food.

    So, on Wednesday morning, I weighed myself. I was surprised to find I had very little hunger that day, apart from a couple of brief pangs. It was very easy to manage, and in a way, not eating made me feel quite strong and in control. There was also a sense of freedom, as I didn't have to think about food - I have found that feeding myself well within a certain calorie count is pretty depressing in the evenings. There is more calorie room in the morning and at lunch.

    So, on to Thursday - I weighed myself and there was a 2 1/2 pound weight loss. Lovely. But I knew that I would be eating that day, and would gain back a lot of that weight, maybe all of it.

    I had breakfast, and found that afterwards, I still felt a bit empty, so had a lovely large glass of juice. I was due out with friends for an early lunch, and despite my normal mid-morning healthy snacks I was very hungry for lunch, though I did not have a huge meal, as I didn't want to overdo it. I wasn't hungry again until about 8, when I made a healthy meal, which was delicious. I did find that there I slighly overconsumed because I felt I was owed the right to as I had fasted the day before, and I would be fasting the next day. I didn't overeat - it was extra drinks. I had a little cider, and a can of coke. I justified them to myself, but they did mean that I ate more calories than I really wanted to. I am forgiving myself because that was early days in this routine. I didn't exercise on that day - I wanted to break myself gently into fasting.

    The next morning I was quite surprised to find I had gained only 1/2 pound.

    So, today - I have had more hunger pangs - but again, just the odd pang, not a steady feeling of hunger. When I consider how I feel, it is empty. If it was an eating day, I would welcome a meal, and have a good appetite for it - but I cannot describe myself as hungry. It's not been too hard not to eat.

    After work I met up with friends for a drink, and I had a couple of glasses of sparkling water, then a diet coke. I didn't miss having a drink, I didn't mention to my friends that I was dieting, and they didn't seem to notice anything unusual. I enjoyed sitting in the sun, and although people were eating round us, and there were wafts of delicious garlicy prawns - none of us were eating, and it was fine.

    Now I am home, and I can convince myself that I have already eaten. I think I will have no problems not eating for the rest of the evening, If I think of food, I think of what to have for breakfast. Realistically I am only dropping one meal at a time - I focus on lunch when I skip breakfast, and focus on the next days breakfast when I miss dinner.

    I have to say, I am doing this to drop my risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc, But the fact that it means that I can go out and eat with friends is a big plus, as that is how I socialise. I am meeting a friend for a coffee tomorrow, and another for an indian tomorrow evening, and I would be really worried about sticking to my calorie allowance if I wasn't on this programme.

    So, I'm looking forward to getting weighed in the morning. I had decided to only weigh myself weekly, but found that it is just too tempting to see what is going on. As long as any weight gains don't make me despair, I should be okay.
  • love4fitnesslove4food_wechange
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    This is similar to the JUDDD/IF type stuff (if that gives you more specific things to look up). These "diets" are built to end up in maintenance, so as usual... don't listen to the "OMG YOU CAN'T JUST GO UNDER 1200 CALORIES. STARVATION" people. There's research behind this, and specifically JUDDD is built to gradually up your "Down Day" calories until you are in a maintenance mode where you're not ~starving~.

    Even apes don't eat "three square meals" a day ;)

    I'm glad you want to look like an ape.
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
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    I thought I would round up my first three days of a semi-fast on alternate days. <snip>
    I had a similar experience in that I was surprised how little the hunger bothered me and that you'd think that not eating would be this big deal but it wasn't. Even though I was hungry and enjoyed breaking my fast I wasn't ravenous and I had no problem sticking to my eating plan later. Like you said, it was very freeing.

    I'm not following an alternative day fasting schedule but it was nice to read about your experience. I plan on fasting Monday into Tuesday again this week so if anything changes from the first time I did it I'll be sure to come back and share.