Diary advice/judgement

Please will people give me advice on my diary. It is open. Be brutally honest, I am thick skinned.
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  • fittocycle
    fittocycle Posts: 827 Member
    I just peeked at your food diary and think it looks pretty good! Is it a typical day for you? Could you add in some more fruits/veggies and dairy? Do you usually work out or is today a rest day for you? I didn't see much, if any processed food in it which is a positive. Nice work!:smile:
  • katiejarr
    katiejarr Posts: 251 Member
    Looks pretty good but your calories are very low. I would try and get at least 1200. I eat 1200 or at least close to it, feel free to look at mine. I also think you need to bump up your breakfast meal, add more fruit. Are you loosing at this low of calories?
    Feel free to friend me :bigsmile:
  • I just looked over your week.

    NOT ENOUGH NUTRIENTS and NOT ENOUGH CALORIES.

    You need MORE WHOLE FOODS... vegetables, fruit, and protein.

    EAT breakfast and try to get rid of the lattes girl and candy. You can get healthier sweets. When you start eating more whole foods, healthier foods, you won't crave the other stuff.

    YOU SHOULD MEET YOUR CALORIES GOALS.
  • kingofcrunk
    kingofcrunk Posts: 372 Member
    I just looked over your week.

    NOT ENOUGH NUTRIENTS and NOT ENOUGH CALORIES.

    You need MORE WHOLE FOODS... vegetables, fruit, and protein.

    EAT breakfast and try to get rid of the lattes girl and candy. You can get healthier sweets. When you start eating more whole foods, healthier foods, you won't crave the other stuff.

    YOU SHOULD MEET YOUR CALORIES GOALS.

    There is no need to shout at me via caps locks. I am capable of reading lower case lettering too.

    I don't know what 'candy' you are referring to...I don't eat any.
  • kimmymayhall
    kimmymayhall Posts: 419 Member
    Maybe the "candy" is your chocolate? I think hot cocoa or a little bit of chocolate (honestly it's < 1/2 oz.) is a pretty nice treat, but I think the amount of calories you are eating is just too low. You look to be going pretty healthy with the calories that you are eating but I just don't think you can get enough of what you need on so few calories.
  • lmeola18
    lmeola18 Posts: 35
    I agree, just up the calories a little bit. Your brain will not want you to do that, but it should help. Also, I'd try adding some fruit if you like! Everything else looks pretty good, except the days when you only had a latte for breakfast. Just eat a healthy balanced breakfast, maybe like a yogurt and a piece of fruit and some whole wheat toast. Other than that though, I'd say it looks pretty good! Just tweak a few things, and keep losing!! :smile:
  • kingofcrunk
    kingofcrunk Posts: 372 Member
    I will not up my calories because I'm not hungry and I'm looking to lose weight so its actually nonsensical to me to eat more food just for the sake of it.
  • Lmezz11
    Lmezz11 Posts: 619 Member
    I will not up my calories because I'm not hungry and I'm looking to lose weight so its actually nonsensical to me to eat more food just for the sake of it.

    I understand not eating when you are not hungry, but MFP already creates a calorie deficit for you.
  • mywayroche
    mywayroche Posts: 218 Member
    I will not up my calories because I'm not hungry and I'm looking to lose weight so its actually nonsensical to me to eat more food just for the sake of it.

    I have to agree with them, some days you're not netting enough to get decent nutrients into your body even if you solely ate vegetables and meat. Add to that your love for something sweet and you've got a minor issue. Losing excessive LBM while dieting is nonsensical to me, I guess we're all different.

    It's all just advice, of which you asked for, so no need to get defensive.
  • kingofcrunk
    kingofcrunk Posts: 372 Member
    I will not up my calories because I'm not hungry and I'm looking to lose weight so its actually nonsensical to me to eat more food just for the sake of it.

    I understand not eating when you are not hungry, but MFP already creates a calorie deficit for you.

    what is the point in eating when you aren't hungry?
  • The problem with keeping your calorie intake very low is that your body may go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight. That seems silly but is true. There seems to be a balance between eating less and nurturing the body that really works. Start with the really healthy and add a few treats for just enjoyment. Good luck!
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Please will people give me advice on my diary. It is open. Be brutally honest, I am thick skinned.
    You're usually getting plenty of protein in, which is a good thing. Low in carbs too, which I favour.

    Not sure what your goals are or current position, but I've seen a lot worse !
  • xarge
    xarge Posts: 484 Member
    I think you're doing good overall, try not to go below 30-35g fat and aim for 20+ unsaturated. 1-2 servings of fruits (berries maybe if you're concerned about sugar) will also do you good as at a quick glance I couldn't see much fruit at all.
  • simonlcube
    simonlcube Posts: 73 Member
    Seems fine to me, if you are feeling well and alert, then stick with it. What are your goals, and are you heading in the right direction?
  • A_Shannigans
    A_Shannigans Posts: 170 Member
    I think your diet looks fine. Some people say if you don't get 1200 net calories your metabolism slows. Others say that's not true.

    You are getting your 1200 in and eating back most of your exercise calories. IMO just keep doing what you're doing unless you hit a plateau.

    For one thing some times your calories can be off either in food or in exercise burns and that gives you room for error.
  • kingofcrunk
    kingofcrunk Posts: 372 Member
    I think your diet looks fine. Some people say if you don't get 1200 net calories your metabolism slows. Others say that's not true.

    You are getting your 1200 in and eating back most of your exercise calories. IMO just keep doing what you're doing unless you hit a plateau

    I don't eat my sexercise calories.
  • darrensurrey
    darrensurrey Posts: 3,942 Member
    We weren't asking about your sex habits. :-D
  • A_Shannigans
    A_Shannigans Posts: 170 Member
    I think your diet looks fine. Some people say if you don't get 1200 net calories your metabolism slows. Others say that's not true.

    You are getting your 1200 in and eating back most of your exercise calories. IMO just keep doing what you're doing unless you hit a plateau

    I don't eat my sexercise calories.

    LOL... I don't either. I usually have between 100 -200 calories left over its working so far. If it stops working I'll rethink it.
    Oh there is one thing. You may just not be logging it but drinking water really helps. If you are drinking it and just not tracking it ignore this.
  • SarahJane0691
    SarahJane0691 Posts: 25 Member
    Check out the eat more to weigh less group, and they will explain why you may need to up your calories. However I do think its important to point out that everybody is different, and if you are happy on this and your body is happy on this then keep at it.
  • ladyark
    ladyark Posts: 1,101 Member
    I will not up my calories because I'm not hungry and I'm looking to lose weight so its actually nonsensical to me to eat more food just for the sake of it.

    I understand not eating when you are not hungry, but MFP already creates a calorie deficit for you.

    what is the point in eating when you aren't hungry?



    Eating when you arent hungry helps keep your metabolism running smoothly and lets you fuel your body throughout the day. Im not saying eat a huge meal but, try to keep some type of schedule and something healthy in your system. If i ate only when i am hungry i would probably get by on very little calories at all. I have trouble making my 1200 most of the time before exercise. I have found that my weight loss is much more effective since i started MFP and keep on a decent eating schedule hungry or not.
  • I have been a personal trainer and nutritional 'coach' for 25 years. I am semi retired but feelI know the field extremely well. When looking at your food diary I notice two things...

    1) you are not eating often enough.
    2) a large portion of your meals are calorie dense.

    Example: Breakfast (50-200 calories)
    Snack: (none)
    Lunch: (400 calories)
    Snack: (none)
    Dinner: (700ish calories)
    Snack: (none)

    You are eating the appropriate amount of daily calories, BUT, you are cramming them in and they are spaced too far apart.

    Why this matters:

    Your body needs fuel to function. Too much fuel? Your body stores it as fat for later use. Not enough fuel? Your body goes into its 'reserves' (stored fat) and uses it as fuel. If you wake up at 7am and eat 50-100 calories before starting your day, your body has 50-100 units of available energy (fuel) between then and the next time you eat. If your body uses those units up by 10am and you do not eat again until 12pm, it gets the rest of the fuel that it needs from its reserves (stored fat). This is obviously a good thing when you are trying to lose weight, but you will feel a little tired and sluggish until your next meal. This is the reason you eat a snack at 10am...so your blood sugar levels do not drop drastically and when noon time comes and it's time for lunch, you don't feel the need to eat 4-500 calories (or kill someone, lol)

    So you skipped your 10am snack...you feel a little edgy but you're 'ok' and hey, you have been burning that stored fat you want to loose for two hours! Win, right?! Wrong, and here is why...

    It's noon. You're famished! But it's lunch time! =) You eat 400-500 calories and your body is refueled, BUT your blood sugar has just spiked sending your body the message to "HOLD ON TO THIS FUEL!" Why? It's called "feast or famine" and what it means is that our bodies are designed to 'survive', meaning it automatically senses that it might not get food again (famine) until its next "feast" (dinner).

    To complicate things, between noon and 5 pm, (depending upon what your activity level is during this time) your body may only require 300-400 calories, therefore, "holding" (or storing) any leftover calories in "reserve" (stored fat). So those glorious calories you burned between breakfast and lunch because you under ate, have just been replaced with the overage you consumed at lunch. Bummer.

    Dinner time: It's been 5 hours since lunch. Your famished again! You eat 5-700 calories and your body repeats the lunch time cycle. Even working out at this point (although it's better than doing nothing) will not compensate for amount of stored fat you have taken in, and here is why...

    At lunch you stored an extra 100 calories and at diner you stored an extra 300 calories totaling 400 extra calories. you go to the gym and walk/jog on the treadmill for 30 minutes and then do your weight circuit for 30 minutes, possibly burning 3-400 calories. You either broke even for the day (no weight loss) or are over by 100 calories (weight gain). Again, bummer.

    You leave the gym, believing you have eaten anywhere between 1100-1300 calories for the day (perfectly acceptable in the big picture) AND you worked out burning 3-400 calories, so technically you have only consumed between 8-900 calories! Time to celebrate! (in THEORY, but after what I have just told you, you now know better hopefully)...

    Celebration time! 10pm...11 shots of vodka=600 calories. Really? hummmm. I'm not judging your lifestyle, I'm judging your diet choices (and you did title your post with the word "judgement" so I don't feel I'm out of line here, but PLEASE don't take this the wrong way...I'm trying to help.) If it's not vodka, maybe it's 600 calories from somewhere else...after all, you've only eaten 800ish calories all day "technically". Therefore, "technically", even after the 600 calorie vodka bender, you've still only had 1400 calories for the day, right? And that's pretty damn good!

    In reality, the 600 extra calories are simply just a repeat of the "feast/famine", "reserve/burn" cycle. But in reality, instead of breaking even in calories (no weight loss or gain) or being over by 100 in calories (slight weight gain) you are over by 6-700 calories! HUGE weight gain! Bummer? NO! MAJOR BUMMER! =(

    Ok, so we've establish what the wrong eating habits are. Here is why eating smaller meals more often leads to weight loss.

    THE ANSWER: (IMHO)

    Breakfast: 7am - 300ish calories
    Snack: 10am - 150ish calories

    Between 7am and 10am your body should burn anywhere between 350-400 calories*. So you're in a slight caloric deficit, maybe 50 calories give or take. And your blood sugar is steady because you are not ravenous.

    Lunch: 12pm - 300ish calories

    Between 10am and 12pm your body should burn anywhere between 250-300 calories*. So you are again in a slight caloric deficit, maybe 150 calories give or take. Add that to the 50 calorie deficit between breakfast and lunch and your up to being in a 200 calorie caloric deficit. Again, blood sugar is steady.

    Snack: 3pm - 150ish calories

    In the three hours between lunch and snack you body should burn about 350-400 calories*. Again a deficit. This time about 100ish calories. Adding that to the 200 calorie deficit you are already in for the day and it brings you to a total of a 300 calorie deficit so far for the day.

    Dinner: 5pm - 300ish calories.

    Again, your body has probably burned about 300 calories between snack and dinner so maybe this time you're 'even', but you are still in a 300 calorie deficit for the day so yea for you!

    NOW go to the gym and do the same work out as listed above and burn the same 300-400 calories. Now you are in a HUGE caloric deficit for the day! Somewhere around 600-700 calories for REAL this time! And yes! It is time to celebrate!

    Celebration time: 10pm - 150-200 calories. This might be two light beers and a handful of pretzels or an entire bag of light microwave pop corn at the theater or in front of the television. Either way, you are still in a caloric deficit of 4-500 calories AND if you have been adding calories you have been allowed to consume for the day it equals about 1400 calories for the day...leaving you neither hungry, tired or cranky because your blood sugar has stayed even throughout the entire day.

    The asterisk(*): The reason I have the asterisk placed where I do is due to something called RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate). RMR is the amount of calories (units of energy) YOUR body needs to function (breath, eliminate, pump blood, yawn, etc...you know, bodily functions basically) It's sort of technical and different for everyone based on gender, age, weight and lifestyle. There are several ways of finding what your exact RMR is, including a formula that you can find and figure out online if you like. What I have done in the example above is use a 'typical female 20-something of about 140lbs". That number is about 1200-1400 calories. In other words, I estimated. But the fact of the matter is that "meal timing" works because it is based on science.

    I wrote this to help you. It is just my opinion based on 25+ years in the industry. I am not a nutritionist, but I've used this method for myself and hundreds of other successfully for years. I don;t know why I felt the need to write to you and explain this...maybe I'm feeling the need to help just for helping sake rather that getting paid. Like I said in my opening, I am semi-retired and helping people isn't about the money for me anymore.

    I hope I presented this in an easy to understand manner. Feel free to email me with any questions...

    Much luck to you!!!

    Dee

    dsimpson112@aol.com
  • fritzy2000
    fritzy2000 Posts: 18 Member
    I just looked at your diary from saturday and after reading it, I'm thinking if I ate half as healthy as that I wouldn't be the weight I am today!!!

    Fab healthy day, keep up the good work :)
  • alerica1
    alerica1 Posts: 310 Member
    11 shots of Smirnoff vodka? Lots of empty calories there.
  • Cese27
    Cese27 Posts: 626 Member
    I just looked over your week.

    NOT ENOUGH NUTRIENTS and NOT ENOUGH CALORIES.

    You need MORE WHOLE FOODS... vegetables, fruit, and protein.

    EAT breakfast and try to get rid of the lattes girl and candy. You can get healthier sweets. When you start eating more whole foods, healthier foods, you won't crave the other stuff.

    YOU SHOULD MEET YOUR CALORIES GOALS.

    There is no need to shout at me via caps locks. I am capable of reading lower case lettering too.

    I don't know what 'candy' you are referring to...I don't eat any.
    So you are thicked skinned?
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    I know you don't want to up your calories if you're not hungry, but consider how many people are telling you to eat more and whether that many people can be wrong. If you aren't hungry, then you could eat some more calorie-dense but nutritious foods, and that would be a huge help. Consider adding more nuts, nut butters, olive oil, avocado, eggs, etc.

    That said, the foods themselves that you are eating are pretty healthy. I'm noticing, though, that sometimes you tend to be getting too many of the calories from carbs and not enough from protein. This usually happens on days when you have pasta dishes, so you may want to keep an eye on that.
  • WOW Dee..... it is absolutley wonderful for you to take the time to type all that out in the effort to help!!!!! YOU ROCK!! i initially just started to read this thread just beacuse i wanted to see what the comments would be after the first few... I am soo glad i did. If any of us were "on the fence" about eating that many calories..and not eating so many at the same time.... you have certainly put the facts into a perspective that we can all understand and do everyday!!! And since my day just started I will be revisiting my food diary and now making educated changes to keep my body fueled and happy!!! Thank you Thank you Thank you!!! :) I hope you don't mind that i friend you..... lol
  • beadalicious
    beadalicious Posts: 34 Member
    I think your calories are alright on most days, but metabolism is a tricky thing. I also dont eat more than 1000 calories on weekdays, but I stick to high protein/low carb meals and snacks. It really helps keep the hunger down, and LOTS of water! I've had kidney stones so my doctor insists on a gallon of water a day and exercise if I'm going to maintain a high protein diet.
    I came across a website on here that I found pretty motivational. It's by a member that logs her successes and everything else inbetween! Something to check out if your interested.

    http://www.makefatcry.com/

    Great job so far though, Keep it up!!!
  • xarge
    xarge Posts: 484 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and nutritional 'coach' for 25 years. I am semi retired but feelI know the field extremely well. When looking at your food diary I notice two things...

    1) you are not eating often enough.
    2) a large portion of your meals are calorie dense.

    (...)

    I appreciate the effort you've put into writing that but 3 small meals 3 snacks eating approach for burning fat has absolutely no scientific basis. This is one of the recent studies:

    http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/retrieve/pii/S1550413112001891
    Highlights
    Time-restricted feeding improves clock and nutrient sensor functions
    tRF prevents obesity, diabetes, and liver diseases in mice on a high-fat diet
    Nutrient type and time of feeding determine liver metabolome and nutrient homeostasis
    tRF raises bile acid production and energy expenditure and reduces inflammation
    Summary

    While diet-induced obesity has been exclusively attributed to increased caloric intake from fat, animals fed a high-fat diet (HFD) ad libitum (ad lib) eat frequently throughout day and night, disrupting the normal feeding cycle. To test whether obesity and metabolic diseases result from HFD or disruption of metabolic cycles, we subjected mice to either ad lib or time-restricted feeding (tRF) of a HFD for 8 hr per day. Mice under tRF consume equivalent calories from HFD as those with ad lib access yet are protected against obesity, hyperinsulinemia, hepatic steatosis, and inflammation and have improved motor coordination. The tRF regimen improved CREB, mTOR, and AMPK pathway function and oscillations of the circadian clock and their target genes' expression. These changes in catabolic and anabolic pathways altered liver metabolome and improved nutrient utilization and energy expenditure. We demonstrate in mice that tRF regimen is a nonpharmacological strategy against obesity and associated diseases.

    The rats on tRF are restricted to nighttime feeding only.

    If you want to see the effects on human samples (no offense!), you can check the Intermittent Fasting group here for very successful stories.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    I have been a personal trainer and nutritional 'coach' for 25 years. I am semi retired but feelI know the field extremely well. When looking at your food diary I notice two things...

    1) you are not eating often enough.
    2) a large portion of your meals are calorie dense.

    (...)

    I appreciate the effort you've put into writing that but 3 small meals 3 snacks eating approach for burning fat has absolutely no scientific basis.

    ^ Just chiming in to further support the above sentence, which I believe is absolutely correct. Feeding frequency does not effect net expenditure.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency (<--- referenced post)
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    Be brutally honest, I am thick skinned.

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