Rant about men!

What's wrong with getting a manicure? I mean I won't because I'm not quite THAT metro... but really isn't something like that about taking care of yourself?

Oh... and... you suck!

Love,
SH

I have to say that I am damn lucky with my husband. He works his butt off to support us (I'm an artist who earns near squat), always helps out with chores when asked and even when not asked, and is happy to handle the heavy stuff for me because I have annoyingly weak arms. I don't hear him **** talking about anyone really unless someone has seriously crossed him. When that happens, there is no forgiveness though. He can harbor a grudge like no other. Scorpio to the bone (don't really believe in that stuff, but I like to joke about it because the glove fits in his case).

Thank you for giving me a giggle :laugh:
My guy always opens the door, carries the groceries and is just the sweetest gent ever
This doesn't make me feel all "weak and girly" it makes me feel special with his acts of care and love :blushing: .
He works hard every day and still he's always at my car door opening it for me. The thing is it isn't a one way street, everyday I try to do something that quietly shows him how much I appreciate and love him. It's a partnership and it takes work...but I believe we're both worth it.
There is nothing wrong with a guy looking after himself (manicures are great) my problem is with the guys/gals who are foul mouthed and think that by "bad mouthing" their significant other; it some how makes them look like 'big' people in the eyes of their mates...:noway:

You should hear some of the rubbish that I hear leaving female lips :laugh: Here's the bottom line, some PEOPLE are idiots.

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OMG that *****!

Women pushed to equality and men didn't understand what that meant. Equality meant that women would like the ability to hold down the same jobs as men, getting the same pay for the same or equal job, the same benefits, etc. Men took women's desire for equality to the extreme, figuring that women also wanted to be treated like men - opening their own doors, carrying their own packages, etc.

There is a difference between equality and respect.

Equality means that women are given the same opportunities as men, such as being able to hold the same jobs, being paid the same as men for the same or equal jobs, being able to attend the same schools, being able to advance into the same positions as men, etc.

Respect, on the other hand, is realizing that women are human beings, not some bird that is pregnant, some chick that is someone you would 'do', etc. Opening doors, helping with carrying packages, buying a woman flowers, paying for the first date (especially if the man asked first), walking on the road side of the sidewalk, etc. comes out of respect.

Unfortunately, since men misunderstood what women meant as 'equality', they threw out those things that show respect.

Look at older men (those in their 80s) and how they treat women and compare that to younger men. The older men have it right, as far as I am concerned. They show respect to women, whereas the younger men (not all of them, but a lot of them) show very little respect toward women, seeing them only as something to fulfill their sexual needs.

Women have a long way to go before they are treated well, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting because I don't see it happening. Women will always be seen as sexual toys first and foremost, and then maybe, just maybe, as the relationship grows, the man will see her as a human being.

Women pushed to equality and men didn't understand what that meant. Equality meant that women would like the ability to hold down the same jobs as men, getting the same pay for the same or equal job, the same benefits, etc. Men took women's desire for equality to the extreme, figuring that women also wanted to be treated like men - opening their own doors, carrying their own packages, etc.

There is a difference between equality and respect.

Equality means that women are given the same opportunities as men, such as being able to hold the same jobs, being paid the same as men for the same or equal jobs, being able to attend the same schools, being able to advance into the same positions as men, etc.

Respect, on the other hand, is realizing that women are human beings, not some bird that is pregnant, some chick that is someone you would 'do', etc. Opening doors, helping with carrying packages, buying a woman flowers, paying for the first date (especially if the man asked first), walking on the road side of the sidewalk, etc. comes out of respect.

Unfortunately, since men misunderstood what women meant as 'equality', they threw out those things that show respect.

Look at older men (those in their 80s) and how they treat women and compare that to younger men. The older men have it right, as far as I am concerned. They show respect to women, whereas the younger men (not all of them, but a lot of them) show very little respect toward women, seeing them only as something to fulfill their sexual needs.

Women have a long way to go before they are treated well, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting because I don't see it happening. Women will always be seen as sexual toys first and foremost, and then maybe, just maybe, as the relationship grows, the man will see her as a human being.

Wow. Well, women just want cake and eat it too. Women who demand respect will get it. It's a sad fact that most do not because they are insecure. There's a reason that there are about 9 women for every man on MFP. Most women are rather vain and would rather be beautiful than smart or successful. If women didn't put up with being treated as objects, they wouldn't. But they get their ego boost from being sexually desired.

See, you aren't the only one that can make wild generalizations about the opposite sex.

And men don't?

. "Here you bust your butt right along with me and then I get to be the boss"


Or how about when they both work but SHE does all the housework...hmmmm?

Nu uh I don't think so.

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Hi, what language are you speaking? I see no racism here and this isn't a thread about religion so whatever the Mormon says doesn't matter lol. I want to poke my effing eyes out right now with that typing. If for some reason it's an actual language being spoken that I don't know about than forgive me lol.

Women pushed to equality and men didn't understand what that meant. Equality meant that women would like the ability to hold down the same jobs as men, getting the same pay for the same or equal job, the same benefits, etc. Men took women's desire for equality to the extreme, figuring that women also wanted to be treated like men - opening their own doors, carrying their own packages, etc.

There is a difference between equality and respect.

Equality means that women are given the same opportunities as men, such as being able to hold the same jobs, being paid the same as men for the same or equal jobs, being able to attend the same schools, being able to advance into the same positions as men, etc.

Respect, on the other hand, is realizing that women are human beings, not some bird that is pregnant, some chick that is someone you would 'do', etc. Opening doors, helping with carrying packages, buying a woman flowers, paying for the first date (especially if the man asked first), walking on the road side of the sidewalk, etc. comes out of respect.

Unfortunately, since men misunderstood what women meant as 'equality', they threw out those things that show respect.

Look at older men (those in their 80s) and how they treat women and compare that to younger men. The older men have it right, as far as I am concerned. They show respect to women, whereas the younger men (not all of them, but a lot of them) show very little respect toward women, seeing them only as something to fulfill their sexual needs.

Women have a long way to go before they are treated well, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting because I don't see it happening. Women will always be seen as sexual toys first and foremost, and then maybe, just maybe, as the relationship grows, the man will see her as a human being.

I think what you are asking for is positive discrimination. That's not equality. I'm fine with opening my my doors, carrying my bags or anything. I would only think less of a man when he doesn't help me when I'm crashed under heavy bags, when he doesn't hold the door after he goes through it first and slam it on my face (if that ever happens, I'll probably kick that person's *kitten*), or he leeches in a relationship. All of them goes for a woman as well, I'd pissed off with a female friend if she does those. I would be pissed off when he avoids sharing any responsibility in a relationship, but then again I've never been with such a guy. It's a personality issue, not a gender issue as I've seen as irresponsible females.

Seeing women as an object for sex only is another issue though. That's not about being a man, that's about being a douche bag and whereas men are welcome in my life, douche bags aren't.

i didant sai it woz racist, 'racialist' lick sexsist. Morman LDs sai man >womane so u av 2 not diss da man. so no it int abot religon but if u lk 2da bibal u wont go 2fr rong..get me? i fink mayb u gota fink of wot u sai b4 u go dis ppl religan.

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Hi, what language are you speaking? I see no racism here and this isn't a thread about religion so whatever the Mormon says doesn't matter lol. I want to poke my effing eyes out right now with that typing. If for some reason it's an actual language being spoken that I don't know about than forgive me lol.

i blame hip hop....seriously


METAL RULES

ITS THE BEST I COULD DO

LOL

Your effort reminds me of this scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXSLcYQHqFQ

:P

Being an old guy who was raised to be a gentleman, I have to comment.

First, I don't see anything wrong with a man going to a tanning salon or getting a manicure, especially a manicure. When I see the condition of some men's hands and nails, more men could use a manicure.

I am very disappointed in the social skills of young men and would like to give an example. It was senior prom weekend and a group of high school seniors, young men with their dates, entered a resturant where my wife and I were dining. The girls looked beautiful in their formal gowns. The boys looked like creatures that crawled out of a dumpster. Their attire was universally similar, tattered jeans, sneakers, rock concert tee shirts, ridiculous looking hats, and a tux top coat. They looked disgusting!!! I asked one of the girls why she would go to something as special as the senior prom with a guy who was dressed the way her date dressed. She looked at him and shrugged her shoulders. None of the boys opened the door, or even held the door open for the girls, nor did they seat the girls at the dinner table. In short, they don't know how to act like gentlemen, their parents haven't taught them how to act, or dress properly, and their dates,the young women, condone their actions.

Women have stopped acting like ladies, and therefore don't insist men treat them as such. I'm not sure which happened first, women not acting like ladies, or bad behavior on the part of men. And men don't know how to act like gentlemen. Learning social skills starts at a young age at home and those skills have stopped being taught a long time ago.

What happened to pride in appearance, especially amongst young men?

Lastly, one of my daughters went on a date with a young man who did act like a gentleman, opened the doors for her, sat her at a resturant table, helped her with her coat, etc.. She never went out with him again. Why? Because he was too nice. Sad, very sad on both their parts, his for being rejected for treating a girl like a lady, and hers for not expecting to be treated like one.

Then there is speech. I'm not a dude!!! And I do want to understand what someone is saying. If someone can't communicate in an intelligible manner, best they learn some language skills or like the unemployed guy, that will be thier fate.

i blame hip hop....seriously


METAL RULES

blaming hip hop is like me saying that all metal worships satan. you cant blame an entire sub-culture.

well the metal side that does worship satan (i.e. King Diamond, etc) are a very very sub culture....the covnersation in the OP is basic garden variety hip hop.

UGH! Please don't get me started on this topic. I am single and have to date guys like this all the time! Needless to say there are not a lot of 2nd dates.:ohwell:

I never see men opening doors for women. It is ALWAYS the other way around. Why can't it be 50/50? I can open a door for myself and others but men have gotten so lazy. I have seen so many couples where the guys are on their cellphones and the women are lugging the groceries or at IKEA it was heavy looking furniture box. I am just saddened to see really weak men.

Someone on this board posted a while ago about how she won't let her husband lug the heavy stuff because she considers it an extra boost to her workouts. I doubt she's the only one.

As for the doors, I have men actually run in front of me on a regular basis just so they can hold the door open. My boyfriend will stand holding a door for complete strangers (men and women) for several minutes if a lot of people are coming through. Maybe it's the people you know and the places you go that are the problem.