Rant about men!
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I think some women put way too much pressure on men, especially around Valentines day which has NOTHING, I know, to do with this thread. A man opening my car door is not important to me at all. I do not have the time that it takes to wait while he walks around the car to get it for me. I could of been in and out of that damn seat three times by then lol. I guess some women still like that oldschool type thing though which is cool, but I wouldn't judge a guy for not opening doors for me or helping me with the groceries, even if it were raining. We don't need their help anymore, lol it's 2012. If I was a guy and my girlfriend expected me to open the car door for her she's be spending the night there lol.0
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i didant sai it woz racist, 'racialist' lick sexsist. Morman LDs sai man >womane so u av 2 not diss da man. so no it int abot religon but if u lk 2da bibal u wont go 2fr rong..get me? i fink mayb u gota fink of wot u sai b4 u go dis ppl religan.
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Hi, what language are you speaking? I see no racism here and this isn't a thread about religion so whatever the Mormon says doesn't matter lol. I want to poke my effing eyes out right now with that typing. If for some reason it's an actual language being spoken that I don't know about than forgive me lol.0 -
Hay, I will let you know, on my graduation day... I held open the door for 2 hours before the event. :P0
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It may seem like most men are like this, but it is most likely a misconception based on a stereotype. For instance, say I think that all old people smell bad. Every time I pass by an old person that smells, I think this is evidence to support my theory. Yet I may also pass by countless old people who didn't smell, but didn't notice them because I didn't smell anything.
There are plenty of wonderful men/women as well as bad apples in each group. Labeling them with what could easily be a misconception will only hinder yourself.0 -
Once held a door open for a woman and got yelled at for it. Was told, "I can open my own damn door," as she walked past. This wasn't a date, but just one of those, 'open the door and noticed a woman behind me and stood aside so she could go through first,' kind of things. There *are* women who see gentlemanly and courteous behavior as rude. Doesn't stop me from opening doors, but just goes to show that stupidity isn't confined to either sex.
One could easily open a 'Rant about Women' thread. Wonder how that would be received....0 -
Well, heres my take on this. Men just aren't the same anymore and to be perfectly honest, it's not just men's fault. It's the society, it's the parents and it's also the women. However before I start pointing things out, I like to say that I believe that every man is responsible for their actions so in the end, the biggest fault is these immature men.
First off, some men will always be kids in heart. My boss, who's been a professor for longer than I have been alive still does things that make me go facepalm. But thats part of his charm. The difference between him and others who I call immature rather than having a childs heart is that people like my boss know when to get serious.
As a woman, if you expect a man to open a door for you, then I'm sorry but many times you should be rightfully dissapointed and should blame this on the feminists. Example: I was born and raised in Asia. About a decade ago, I was helping my friend move and his girlfriend was trying to take out this heavy TV. She's this tiny person herself so I offered to help her (I would done that to a man too) and in return I was told a stupid sexist foreigner who doesn't know that American women can take care of themselves and not need a man.
Back in the day, if you send a drink to a lady, if she accepts it's an invitation for the male to come chat with the lady and if she refused the free drink, this is a clear signal that the woman is not interested. Nowadays, girls take the free drink and then sho away the man. Same thing with dates. You ask a girl out, she expects you to pay for the dinner not because its the tradition or because its the gentlemen thing to do but rather because in their mind, the guy is paying for her company and the priviledge to sit besides her. I guess the line between escort services and dating girls is getting thinner and thinner
Clothing. That is something that is always evolving. I mean, the disco era and other different times the clothing were ridiculous but we went through them. The "suit up" look is a classic but right now most hip thing is to have your saggy pants and wanna-be-gansta look which believe it or not girls are into. The day girls stop going out with these wanna-be-thugs is the day when men will clean up their act.
If you want a gentlemen, there are plenty out there, some are very likely friendzoned by you too
ETA: BTW, even though I personally don't get manicure (infact till recently I didn't even knew the difference between manicure and pedicure) I don't think there is anything wrong for a man to look good. Women nowadays desire a more refined man and not just a rugged man. I think if the man feel like getting a manicure, he should be able to. I will make fun of my friends if they get it sure (to their face, friendly mockery) but I won't judge them. BTW, I cook too and in many cases have cooked for my lady friends, does that make me a wussy too?0 -
what's wrong with men getting a manicure?0
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diz iz so racialist. jst coz man say fing bowt gurlz jst probs meen dey fance u! and iz not g*y.
mormon LDS sez man beta so u shud respekt dat view,
shoot this gave me a headache - to the point I forgot what I was going to say.0 -
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i love men...the ones on my FL are amazing.0
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Men are scared. Men are ego-driven. Because we don't or may not feel confident in our heart-of-hearts we do things to mask - to hide our insecurities. Most men I know think they're confident or adjusted or secure. Most men are liars to themselves.
If men decided to crave a woman - not in a sexual way but in an intimate way - if men learned to cherish intimacy over sex or mating, there'd be more 'good men' out there.
My $.02
No...i'm not gay. Or metro. Or feminine.
Yes, I know how to identify the colours "coral", "Plumb", and "sage" - and I know cutting hair in layers can build body. And...I give the women in my life make-up advice because I just seem to sorta know how to do it.
I also like to shoot. blow stuff up. ride motorcycles - and crash them (ask me to see the vid of my crash).
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I love men.0
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Things I heard today from women on the street:
"I know everything about a lot of things"
"Maybe if you knew who my dad was you'd listen to me"
"I'm on a diet so I stick to double mocha lattes in the morning and night, no more coke for me"
"You look so cute, is that burlap?"
"They should keep making scream movies"
"I don't need a real job my boyfriend is going to ask me to move in with him soon."
"I don't know why all my friends are getting married and having kids, it's so stupid, I'm so much more attractive than them."0 -
I think there are equally stupid males and females out there obviously! Bottom line is there is just a lack of common courtesy and respect for the human race. These females that snap at the guys for holding open doors, helping with heavy items etc, would they snap if a woman was offering? I hold doors open and offer to help with heavy things for men or women, it doesn't matter who they are and I am grateful when it is returned. Common courtesy. It shouldn't be about womens equality and 'I don't need a man to help me' mindset. That's BS.0
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hilarious.
OP you dont want the truth, ya know why? "you cant handle..." lol had to toss that completely applicable quote in there.
great question, poor delivery but great question. piss poor answers mostly by both genders. dang our society is screwed.0 -
Well sh**, and here I thought I lived in a bit more progressive of a society. :laugh:
I don't need a man to hold every door open for me, just the one in front of me when my arms are full and the look on my face makes you wonder if I'm secretly trying telekinesis. And I will hold the door for the man walking in a store behind me out of courtesy. I often get kind of an odd look from the guy, but I'm used to it.
And if my man has spent half his day off taking apart and then reconfiguring plumbing because I dropped something important down a drain, you better damn well believe I'm on the way to the grocery store to get the fixings for whatever his favorite meal is and a case of his favorite beer so he can kick back and relax for the rest of the day. And when I'm drop dead tired after a 12 hour work day he can have my favorite take out on speed dial and dish me up a plate so I don't have lift a single finger more for the day and there are no dirty dishes to worry about.
All I need is to be respected and valued, and I do my damndest to give it right back. It's all about balance, friends and neighbors, balance and mutual respect.0 -
I never see men opening doors for women. It is ALWAYS the other way around. Why can't it be 50/50? I can open a door for myself and others but men have gotten so lazy. I have seen so many couples where the guys are on their cellphones and the women are lugging the groceries or at IKEA it was heavy looking furniture box. I am just saddened to see really weak men.
Someone on this board posted a while ago about how she won't let her husband lug the heavy stuff because she considers it an extra boost to her workouts. I doubt she's the only one.
As for the doors, I have men actually run in front of me on a regular basis just so they can hold the door open. My boyfriend will stand holding a door for complete strangers (men and women) for several minutes if a lot of people are coming through. Maybe it's the people you know and the places you go that are the problem.
I lift heavy stuff for my husband because he has a degenerative spinal disease and also has had back surgery for herniated discs. He looks big and brawny but he is in a ton of pain:( I do this stuff because I don't like to see him in pain.0 -
Women pushed to equality and men didn't understand what that meant. Equality meant that women would like the ability to hold down the same jobs as men, getting the same pay for the same or equal job, the same benefits, etc. Men took women's desire for equality to the extreme, figuring that women also wanted to be treated like men - opening their own doors, carrying their own packages, etc.
There is a difference between equality and respect.
Equality means that women are given the same opportunities as men, such as being able to hold the same jobs, being paid the same as men for the same or equal jobs, being able to attend the same schools, being able to advance into the same positions as men, etc.
Respect, on the other hand, is realizing that women are human beings, not some bird that is pregnant, some chick that is someone you would 'do', etc. Opening doors, helping with carrying packages, buying a woman flowers, paying for the first date (especially if the man asked first), walking on the road side of the sidewalk, etc. comes out of respect.
Unfortunately, since men misunderstood what women meant as 'equality', they threw out those things that show respect.
Look at older men (those in their 80s) and how they treat women and compare that to younger men. The older men have it right, as far as I am concerned. They show respect to women, whereas the younger men (not all of them, but a lot of them) show very little respect toward women, seeing them only as something to fulfill their sexual needs.
Women have a long way to go before they are treated well, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting because I don't see it happening. Women will always be seen as sexual toys first and foremost, and then maybe, just maybe, as the relationship grows, the man will see her as a human being.
Wow. Well, women just want cake and eat it too. Women who demand respect will get it. It's a sad fact that most do not because they are insecure. There's a reason that there are about 9 women for every man on MFP. Most women are rather vain and would rather be beautiful than smart or successful. If women didn't put up with being treated as objects, they wouldn't. But they get their ego boost from being sexually desired.
See, you aren't the only one that can make wild generalizations about the opposite sex.
You are so right on the money with that one but you are going to get hell from it but its true.0 -
Men are evil. End of story0
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Men are scared. Men are ego-driven. Because we don't or may not feel confident in our heart-of-hearts we do things to mask - to hide our insecurities. Most men I know think they're confident or adjusted or secure. Most men are liars to themselves.
If men decided to crave a woman - not in a sexual way but in an intimate way - if men learned to cherish intimacy over sex or mating, there'd be more 'good men' out there.
My $.02
No...i'm not gay. Or metro. Or feminine.
Yes, I know how to identify the colours "coral", "Plumb", and "sage" - and I know cutting hair in layers can build body. And...I give the women in my life make-up advice because I just seem to sorta know how to do it.
I also like to shoot. blow stuff up. ride motorcycles - and crash them (ask me to see the vid of my crash).
You are brilliant! You just stated what every woman wants! You are the perfect paradox! My hats off to you:drinker:0 -
Well sh**, and here I thought I lived in a bit more progressive of a society. :laugh:
I don't need a man to hold every door open for me, just the one in front of me when my arms are full and the look on my face makes you wonder if I'm secretly trying telekinesis. And I will hold the door for the man walking in a store behind me out of courtesy. I often get kind of an odd look from the guy, but I'm used to it.
And if my man has spent half his day off taking apart and then reconfiguring plumbing because I dropped something important down a drain, you better damn well believe I'm on the way to the grocery store to get the fixings for whatever his favorite meal is and a case of his favorite beer so he can kick back and relax for the rest of the day. And when I'm drop dead tired after a 12 hour work day he can have my favorite take out on speed dial and dish me up a plate so I don't have lift a single finger more for the day and there are no dirty dishes to worry about.
All I need is to be respected and valued, and I do my damndest to give it right back. It's all about balance, friends and neighbors, balance and mutual respect.
Can you tell those prissy princess Kim Kardashian wannabees that, in fact, tell most women that please. You are my new favorite female now. You are the first woman on here that has posted about things he can do and things you can do. 99 percent of stuff posted on here are about things men have to do to keep them or make them happy, its never things they have to do. I like the way you think. Its a partnership and teamwork and 50/50.
@most women, fact is, you are not real princesses, grow up, its a fairytail and you know what, the princesses in fairytails were nice and humble and also stop listening to the Kardashians, they are rich and you are not, you will never be like them so quit acting like you are the *kitten* and so demanding. Relationships and friendships are about two people pulling their own weight to make it work, its not all about you. Stop making men jump through hoops and throw that list of 300 things men must be to get your attention. Like the woman above me stated, its all about respect.
There are bad men and women in the world but right now, its trendy for women to be the players and cheaters and treat people like crap. Those reality tv shows are not good for finding good role models. Then again, some say men from 10 years ago and older are just getting what they deserve. Idk. Every woman I know is in control and has multiple good guys in their pocket so all you who say they cant find good guys, you need to get out more or change your type.
Last thing, women stop it, most women are more shallow than any man can be. Come on, how many discriminate based on height, job, looks, hair color, money, car he drives, his clothes, his type of pets, the place where he lives, his diet, what his friends look like, how you look in pictures together, weight, muscle mass, eye color, name, spelling, vocabulary, and I so could go on.0 -
Kinda...sorta...offended by this. I have a great dad, am married to a great guy and gave birth to 2 great sons. No ranting going on here, lol.0
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I don't have to worry about ending up with most of the men you describe.
First, I can't tan, and I doubt a man who bothers to get a tan would want to look at my pale butt in the moonlight.
Also, the manicure guy won't be interested because I don't even bother with nail polish. No man is going to want to spend more time and money on his nails than his girlfriend does.
And I don't have to worry about a man hooking up with me in hopes I'll buy him stuff, because I'm flat broke myself at the moment.
Not real sure what to make of our bird watcher or that fellow with the Razor whatever, that's the scooter thing, right? As for door openers, around here we're polite and just about everyone does it for everyone else, in particular the elderly, anyone with kids in tow, or anyone who just looks too darn tired and hassled to open a door for their own self.0 -
In response to the person who somehow has worse grammar and spelling than I do. Which is saying something. Please Please Please stop posting falsehoods about my religion. Born and raised LDS. We believe men and women are EQUAL! They carry different responsibilities and duties, but in any healthy relationship neither disrespects the other.
So yes, I love the men in my church. They open doors, smile, give me rides, help me with moving, and are gentlemen. I don't take them for granted and treat them with respect in return.0 -
I have a fetish about really REALLY pale white girls.
And if they got those "dead hopeless life stripper" eyes on them then ladies, try and stop me!0 -
Well sh**, and here I thought I lived in a bit more progressive of a society. :laugh:
I don't need a man to hold every door open for me, just the one in front of me when my arms are full and the look on my face makes you wonder if I'm secretly trying telekinesis. And I will hold the door for the man walking in a store behind me out of courtesy. I often get kind of an odd look from the guy, but I'm used to it.
And if my man has spent half his day off taking apart and then reconfiguring plumbing because I dropped something important down a drain, you better damn well believe I'm on the way to the grocery store to get the fixings for whatever his favorite meal is and a case of his favorite beer so he can kick back and relax for the rest of the day. And when I'm drop dead tired after a 12 hour work day he can have my favorite take out on speed dial and dish me up a plate so I don't have lift a single finger more for the day and there are no dirty dishes to worry about.
All I need is to be respected and valued, and I do my damndest to give it right back. It's all about balance, friends and neighbors, balance and mutual respect.
Can you tell those prissy princess Kim Kardashian wannabees that, in fact, tell most women that please. You are my new favorite female now. You are the first woman on here that has posted about things he can do and things you can do. 99 percent of stuff posted on here are about things men have to do to keep them or make them happy, its never things they have to do. I like the way you think. Its a partnership and teamwork and 50/50.
@most women, fact is, you are not real princesses, grow up, its a fairytail and you know what, the princesses in fairytails were nice and humble and also stop listening to the Kardashians, they are rich and you are not, you will never be like them so quit acting like you are the *kitten* and so demanding. Relationships and friendships are about two people pulling their own weight to make it work, its not all about you. Stop making men jump through hoops and throw that list of 300 things men must be to get your attention. Like the woman above me stated, its all about respect.
There are bad men and women in the world but right now, its trendy for women to be the players and cheaters and treat people like crap. Those reality tv shows are not good for finding good role models. Then again, some say men from 10 years ago and older are just getting what they deserve. Idk. Every woman I know is in control and has multiple good guys in their pocket so all you who say they cant find good guys, you need to get out more or change your type.
Last thing, women stop it, most women are more shallow than any man can be. Come on, how many discriminate based on height, job, looks, hair color, money, car he drives, his clothes, his type of pets, the place where he lives, his diet, what his friends look like, how you look in pictures together, weight, muscle mass, eye color, name, spelling, vocabulary, and I so could go on.
Because all this ridiculous ignorant crap you are spewing..
Well most women grow out of this behavioir about the same age men stop wearing backwards hats.0 -
i love men...the ones on my FL are amazing.
quoting myself.men rock.women rock.***holes are ***holes.0 -
i love men...the ones on my FL are amazing.
quoting myself.men rock.women rock.***holes are ***holes.
Gender bashing is old
And comes off as bitter and sad0 -
i love men...the ones on my FL are amazing.
quoting myself.men rock.women rock.***holes are ***holes.
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Well sh**, and here I thought I lived in a bit more progressive of a society. :laugh:
I don't need a man to hold every door open for me, just the one in front of me when my arms are full and the look on my face makes you wonder if I'm secretly trying telekinesis. And I will hold the door for the man walking in a store behind me out of courtesy. I often get kind of an odd look from the guy, but I'm used to it.
And if my man has spent half his day off taking apart and then reconfiguring plumbing because I dropped something important down a drain, you better damn well believe I'm on the way to the grocery store to get the fixings for whatever his favorite meal is and a case of his favorite beer so he can kick back and relax for the rest of the day. And when I'm drop dead tired after a 12 hour work day he can have my favorite take out on speed dial and dish me up a plate so I don't have lift a single finger more for the day and there are no dirty dishes to worry about.
All I need is to be respected and valued, and I do my damndest to give it right back. It's all about balance, friends and neighbors, balance and mutual respect.
Very well said0
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