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Studies SMUDIES!

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  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    All studies are the same to me. I did not say they are not useful, I do think a lot of people take them to literally and
    use them as factual basis.

    They do. They're called scientists. They made the internet you're using to discredit them.

    Are you saying scientiest take studies literal and as fact? I don't get it just like studies I guess. LOL
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    Yes I prefer to listed to uncle bobs friends wife's postman who's sister cut out beans and lost 10 kilos in a week.

    Feel free to read a study and make your own conclusions as to what to do with the info but to simply write them off as useless as it was not yourself who was studied is a little short sighted.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

    I didn't say they were useless but I will say taking them literal or repeating them as fact to others is wrong.

    But they are fact...That's what facts are...:noway:
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
    Yes I prefer to listed to uncle bobs friends wife's postman who's sister cut out beans and lost 10 kilos in a week.

    Feel free to read a study and make your own conclusions as to what to do with the info but to simply write them off as useless as it was not yourself who was studied is a little short sighted.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

    I didn't say they were useless but I will say taking them literal or repeating them as fact to others is wrong.

    Sorry I really don't understand your logic here.

    Lets say a large well conducted study shows that meal timing is less important that overall calorie intact, I now can't take that as factual........for what reason?
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    You're coming across as anti-intellectual because of statements like this: "All studies are the same to me."

    Now, when one study has certain results, and a hack reporter draws his own faulty conclusions from it just to get a provocative story, and then people start throwing it around as proof of their own crackpot theories, that is a problem. Study results are often misquoted, misinterpreted, and misused. If that's the kind of thing you're talking about, I can agree.
  • BrettPGH
    BrettPGH Posts: 4,716 Member
    Aaaaand I'm out! Y'all have fun!
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Honestly, I don't think the OP is actually referring to studies, but instead, the neat little sensationalistic tidbits that the media pulls from these studies to create widespread gossip and rumors about food.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    You're coming across as anti-intellectual because of statements like this: "All studies are the same to me."

    Now, when one study has certain results, and a hack reporter draws his own faulty conclusions from it just to get a provocative story, and then people start throwing it around as proof of their own crackpot theories, that is a problem. Study results are often misquoted, misinterpreted, and misused. If that's the kind of thing you're talking about, I can agree.

    You beat me to my point!
  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    ::blink::

    sorry it that was off in think to much land, it is from a statement the CIA said but changes to suit how I feel about them. The exact
    statement they gave was:

    Studies in Intelligence
    All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed in Studies in Intelligence and CSI Publications are those of the Authors. They do not necessarily reflect official positions or views of the Central Intelligence Agency or any other US government entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying US government endorsement of an article's factual statements and interpretations.

    So statements made by the CIA about intelligence reports completely relate to your weight loss. But studies on body composition and weight loss are irrelevant and don't apply to your weight loss?

    that is not a study, it is a statement about studies?

    It's not even that. It's a statement about intelligence reports generated by CIA field operatives. Those are reports about criminals and terrorists... not nutritional science!!

    And the point is I can't feel the same about their statement on studies on that as studies on nutrition or make the same type statement? HUMM disagree.
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    You're coming across as anti-intellectual because of statements like this: "All studies are the same to me."

    Now, when one study has certain results, and a hack reporter draws his own faulty conclusions from it just to get a provocative story, and then people start throwing it around as proof of their own crackpot theories, that is a problem. Study results are often misquoted, misinterpreted, and misused. If that's the kind of thing you're talking about, I can agree.

    You beat me to my point!
    You were a bit more succinct, though.
  • JosieRawr
    JosieRawr Posts: 788 Member
    So you plan to stop using MFP?


    All the info this site is based on comes from studies. You are not all unique, special snowflakes. The human body is remarkably similar across the board. If it weren't medicine would be rather tricky.

    *doctor cuts a person open* "Oh my god this one is made completely of jam! If only people weren't all so unique!"

    lol u almost made me spit out my water... literally, *hand over mouth, ok don't laugh you have to swallow before you laugh*!
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    All studies are the same to me. I did not say they are not useful, I do think a lot of people take them to literally and
    use them as factual basis.

    They do. They're called scientists. They made the internet you're using to discredit them.

    Are you saying scientiest take studies literal and as fact? I don't get it just like studies I guess. LOL

    The results of studies become fact when other scientists confirm the results. It's called a peer-reviewed study.
  • corn63
    corn63 Posts: 1,580 Member
    Now do you wish there was some form of "Are you REALLY sure you want to post this" warning before you posted this?
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    You are not all unique, special snowflakes.

    ^This. From a physiological we're all pretty much the same. Despite what mommy and daddy told you growing up. If you don't believe in science or human physiology you could just try praying the weight away. Maybe some all-powerful being will grant your wish.
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    this thread has everything, even mentions the CIA
    I love it
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    ::blink::

    sorry it that was off in think to much land, it is from a statement the CIA said but changes to suit how I feel about them. The exact
    statement they gave was:

    Studies in Intelligence
    All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed in Studies in Intelligence and CSI Publications are those of the Authors. They do not necessarily reflect official positions or views of the Central Intelligence Agency or any other US government entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying US government endorsement of an article's factual statements and interpretations.

    So statements made by the CIA about intelligence reports completely relate to your weight loss. But studies on body composition and weight loss are irrelevant and don't apply to your weight loss?

    that is not a study, it is a statement about studies?

    It's not even that. It's a statement about intelligence reports generated by CIA field operatives. Those are reports about criminals and terrorists... not nutritional science!!

    And the point is I can't feel the same about their statement on studies on that as studies on nutrition or make the same type statement? HUMM disagree.

    I think you are confused... and you are confusing the hell out of me! So I'm out too.
  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    You're coming across as anti-intellectual because of statements like this: "All studies are the same to me."

    Now, when one study has certain results, and a hack reporter draws his own faulty conclusions from it just to get a provocative story, and then people start throwing it around as proof of their own crackpot theories, that is a problem. Study results are often misquoted, misinterpreted, and misused. If that's the kind of thing you're talking about, I can agree.

    You beat me to my point!

    Wow someone would argue that I am saying a study is a study not fact no matter what is on, about, or who does it? Oh and say I am coming across as unintelligent but if I said someone who takes studies literally is coming off as unintelligent I would be chopped into pieces.
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  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    OP, to be honest it seems like you had a half-formed idea and posted it because you were bored, and now you're defending your nebulous point for entertainment.
  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    this thread has everything, even mentions the CIA
    I love it

    Well thank you I aim to please and apparently p1ss off people. lol
  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    OP, to be honest it seems like you had a half-formed idea and posted it because you were bored, and now you're defending your nebulous point for entertainment.

    bored yes totally agree. I still stand by my opinion...no study on people can be a fact to all based on the common knowledge we are all different and do not operate all the same or respond the same.
  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member
    Studies
    All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed in Studies are those of the Authors. They do not necessarily reflect official positions or views of any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying any other entity endorsement of an article's factual statements and interpretations.


    Personally in health and weight loss unless it is my own body being studies what is said means zero to me and cannot
    be 100% true for my body.

    I'm not sure how the CIA's (or anyone else's) legal disclaimer (which is not a comment on the validity of studies, but rather on their authorship) relates to your second point.

    Perhaps I'm thinking too much too. These appear to be entirely unrelated paragraphs?

    Can we have some kind of joining clause?
  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    Yes I prefer to listed to uncle bobs friends wife's postman who's sister cut out beans and lost 10 kilos in a week.

    Feel free to read a study and make your own conclusions as to what to do with the info but to simply write them off as useless as it was not yourself who was studied is a little short sighted.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

    I didn't say they were useless but I will say taking them literal or repeating them as fact to others is wrong.

    But they are fact...That's what facts are...:noway:

    What? Facts are facts we are talking about the results of a study? Now I am confused.
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
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  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172
    Studies
    All statements of fact, opinion, or analysis expressed in Studies are those of the Authors. They do not necessarily reflect official positions or views of any other entity, past or present. Nothing in the contents should be construed as asserting or implying any other entity endorsement of an article's factual statements and interpretations.


    Personally in health and weight loss unless it is my own body being studies what is said means zero to me and cannot
    be 100% true for my body.

    I'm not sure how the CIA's (or anyone else's) legal disclaimer (which is not a comment on the validity of studies, but rather on their authorship) relates to your second point.

    Perhaps I'm thinking too much too. These appear to be entirely unrelated paragraphs?

    Can we have some kind of joining clause?

    Sorry the CIA is very unrelated other then something they stated about a study was totally the way I feel about them so I admittedly used some of their statement. That about it.
  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member


    Wow someone would argue that I am saying a study is a study not fact no matter what is on, about, or who does it? Oh and say I am coming across as unintelligent but if I said someone who takes studies literally is coming off as unintelligent I would be chopped into pieces.

    What do you think a 'fact' is? And what do you imagine 'studies' do?

    As one of those pesky scientists, I'd suggest you're not entirely clear on the nature of the research process. You might want to quit this thread while you're behind.
  • escloflowneCHANGED
    escloflowneCHANGED Posts: 3,038 Member
    Yes I prefer to listed to uncle bobs friends wife's postman who's sister cut out beans and lost 10 kilos in a week.

    Feel free to read a study and make your own conclusions as to what to do with the info but to simply write them off as useless as it was not yourself who was studied is a little short sighted.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

    I didn't say they were useless but I will say taking them literal or repeating them as fact to others is wrong.

    But they are fact...That's what facts are...:noway:

    What? Facts are facts we are talking about the results of a study? Now I am confused.

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  • meerkat70
    meerkat70 Posts: 4,605 Member
    Yes I prefer to listed to uncle bobs friends wife's postman who's sister cut out beans and lost 10 kilos in a week.

    Feel free to read a study and make your own conclusions as to what to do with the info but to simply write them off as useless as it was not yourself who was studied is a little short sighted.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html

    I didn't say they were useless but I will say taking them literal or repeating them as fact to others is wrong.

    But they are fact...That's what facts are...:noway:

    What? Facts are facts we are talking about the results of a study? Now I am confused.

    Yes, I think that's a given.

    (but to the 'they are facts' dude ... do be careful there. Most researchers would not claim to trade in 'fact'.)
  • PinkEnvyx
    PinkEnvyx Posts: 172


    Wow someone would argue that I am saying a study is a study not fact no matter what is on, about, or who does it? Oh and say I am coming across as unintelligent but if I said someone who takes studies literally is coming off as unintelligent I would be chopped into pieces.

    What do you think a 'fact' is? And what do you imagine 'studies' do?

    As one of those pesky scientists, I'd suggest you're not entirely clear on the nature of the research process. You might want to quit this thread while you're behind.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    reading this hurts my blessed head . . .
  • ElizabethRoad
    ElizabethRoad Posts: 5,138 Member
    Wow someone would argue that I am saying a study is a study not fact no matter what is on, about, or who does it? Oh and say I am coming across as unintelligent but if I said someone who takes studies literally is coming off as unintelligent I would be chopped into pieces.
    Seriously, though, you're just messing with me, right? You have to know the difference between "anti-intellectual" and "unintelligent". At least when the word is right there in front of your face.
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