Just had my consultation for bariatric surgery...

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  • laurenellenmarie
    laurenellenmarie Posts: 331 Member
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    I'm going to tell you a story that could potentially ruin your day...

    I was always intrigued by weight loss surgeries, they sounded like such a quick fix.

    Until...
    My aunt had surgery about ten or twelve years back.
    Lost tons of weight and looked great.

    Then...
    She died on August 20, 2010.
    Since she couldn't eat anything, she became a major alcoholic.
    This in turn, weakened her stomach so much that it ruptured her scars in the middle of the night.

    Even worse...
    Her 8 and 10 year old daughters found her that morning on their first days of school that year.

    That was my wake up call. If I'm going to lose weight, I'll do it the right way.

    I just turned 23 last week so we're essentially the same age. I have not graduated college, or been proposed to, or married. I have also not become a mother or a grandmother. All of which I want to do!
    I have been big since birth. I have dieted forever. I'll lose weight and then gain it all back and then some. I'm really getting in gear now and in ten months, I know I won't need surgery, I seriously doubt you will either. Just the other day I read a success story of a woman who was in a wheel chair, then a cane, then hiking in the bad lands. If she can do that, anyone can.

    I promise I'm never this negative and I do like to support people as much as possible but there are better ways to lose weight! We're in this together, you can do it.
  • RunningGranny
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    I'm going to tell you a story that could potentially ruin your day...

    There are always going to be bad stories and good stories about every program.

    Most people don't come to this decision lightly. And all legitimate surgeons require a battery of test and evaluations including a psych eval and a nutrition consultation.

    Just like pregnant women hear every bad labor story known to mankind, WLS patients hear about every negative outcome out there. Every procedure is different and some have mortality rates as high as 12% (fortunately most are much, much lower!) But the fact remains, obesity has even higher negative outcomes. And with the right support team and lots of research, we all have to find out what is going to work best for our individual life story.
  • jshort152
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    I wouldn't do it just yet, if they are doing the surgery its pretty much like a rubber band squeezing your stomach to the size of a grapefruit so you get full faster, but if you overeat then the rubber band breaks, nothing too serious but then you need to spend more $$ just to get it redone, lose as much as you can on your own and then save the money for skin fold remove if you drop a lot, hope this helps!

    Jesse Short
    ISSA Certified Personal Trainer
  • vytamindi
    vytamindi Posts: 845 Member
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    I'm on the path to surgery as well. I hope to have it in November. I didn't come to this decision lightly. I didn't come to this decision overnight. As a matter of fact I was one of those who said I'd NEVER resort to surgery. I wasn't going to give up on myself. No way. I was going to do it right. Make lifestyle changes, watch my calories, count points, exercise, take charge, take control. And I believed it too.

    I did Optifast, lost 60 lbs. Gained it back.

    I did NutriSystem, lost over 100 pounds. Gained it back.

    I did Weight Watchers, three times, 125 lbs, gained it back. Then 60 lbs, gained it back. The 80 lbs, gained it back.

    I did Medifast, lost 150 lbs, gained it back.

    In between each of those attempts I did the book of the month diet, you know; Susan Powter and "Stop the Insanity", Jane Fonda, Tony Little, The Pritikan Diet, Richard Simmons Deal a Meal, and on and on.

    Each and everyone of these diets have success stories. But I am not one of them. Don't get me wrong...I count myself as successful, just not at weight loss. While all of that craziness was going on, (my weight going up and down, up and down) I got married, lived over seas, had three wonderful children, moved across the country, went back to school and become a registered nurse and have worked at some wonderful places doing very interesting work. I'm still married to the same wonderful guy, all of my children are married, have children of their own and live within walking distance of my home. Talk about SUCCESS! I have it in so many places in my life. I am truly blessed.

    I just can't keep the weight off. After much exploration, much contemplation and even more prayer I have decided that this is the avenue I need to explore. I need this tool to add to my arsenal.

    Hope this helps you on your journey!!!

    Just because I'm not understanding, why did you gain it all back? What happened when you got off these programs?

    To me it sounds like you went back to your old habits, thus the weight gain. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just curious.
  • redhousecat
    redhousecat Posts: 584 Member
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    Please clarify... you came to this site and lost weight, in order to have surgery to shrink your stomach so that you'd lose weight?

    Not everyone is on this fitness site for weight loss, alone. If she has or had surgery, she will need to incorporate the fitness aspect into her lifestyle. This is where her involvement with MFP comes into play.
  • paulaviki
    paulaviki Posts: 678 Member
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    I don't know much about bariatric surgery but 22 just seems so young to have such drastic surgery.
  • redhousecat
    redhousecat Posts: 584 Member
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    For those contemplating surgery, I WOULD NOT let others drag you down. From what I have studied, it is not a bad idea. The failures at the surgery usually are the ones who fall back into their old habits. This can be detrimental to their health. By weight gain and by creating additional problems because of re-routed plumbing.

    The success stories are amazing for those who do it right. For most, fitness is the way to go, for others, the surgery is just a little boost that requires just as much maintenance, if not more than the average Joe or Jane.

    I suggest joining a WLS group here or WLS forums as you will get nothing but b1tching on MFP.
  • KeriW626
    KeriW626 Posts: 430
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    If you are able to commit to a strict diet for 10 months in order to get surgery why not change your mind set and do it for life and avoid all of the complications of surgery? I am just curious because these surgeries seem to be marketed as the be all end all to lose weight, yet many people gain the weight back because they don't learn the skills to properly feed their bodies.

    My mother had the surgery about 10 yrs ago. She lost an amazing 250lbs in one year. She did eat right, but did not do the slightest amount of excercise. The result, now 10 yrs later. She has maintained her weight loss. She has enough skin hanging to donate to multiple burn victims. She does not have the money to have the skin removed. I posted a 4 generation picture, her, myself, my daughter and her 1st child, a girl. Firs thing out of my moms mouth, "OMG I look like a hag and you posted that on fb? " I am the one who has encouraged her since before her surgery to move, even if it meant shuffling your feet and doing circles with your arms...

    So yes the surgery does work, it is very difficult, and takes more time than you realize to heal. And if you loose the weight too fast, with no working out. Then you are going to loose fast and have hanging skin.

    I now have a 70+ mother who wants breast implants????

    If you loose a significant amount on your pre surgery diet, would you even consider putting it off for one year, and continuing the diet to see what happens? I would love to see that...

    However, if you have the surgery, you are doing the right thing looking for presupport.
  • Martin0524
    Martin0524 Posts: 59 Member
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    I had the sleeve single incision performs on Jan. 10, 2011... Over 100 lbs down and counting (trying).. Its alot of hard work and dedication. If you need any help along the way stop by and say hi..
  • skinnyskittles
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    The only person I know who has had this kind of surgery goes out to lunch- eats, goes to the toilet and comes back smelling like spew then eats some more. Goes back to the toilet again then comes back finishes her second choice of lunch. Goes to toilet again then comes back for desert, off to the toilet she goes....

    I haven't spoken to her for a while, it's all pretty disgusting.
  • RainHoward
    RainHoward Posts: 1,599 Member
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    One of the first things you will notice on here when posting about bariatric surgery are all the people with "my friend" anecdotes. Then you will also notice that all the anti surgery people know nothing about it other than what they "heard". However, there are also many folks on here who have had surgery or, like myself, are on the road to getting surgery. It's not an easy decision and one that should not be taken lightly.

    The first thing a person should ask themselves is "why am I fat?". If the answer is because I love food, because I can't control myself, because I have a need to eat even when not hungry, then surgery is NOT a good path for that person. Not until those issues are dealt with.

    Be sure you are educated in what your options are. I would not go anyplace for the surgery that is not a center of excellence (a certification given only after many many surgeries, years of training and inspections). Also, research the surgeon. Remember, with all but the lap band, this is a one way surgery, it can't be undone if you change your mind or they do a booboo. Know what you are getting into.

    I wish you luck. And I hope it helps you be successful in you mission to get healthy and live a long and productive life. I still have 60 pounds to drop before I can schedule my surgery so it's a while out for me.
  • Malrouke84
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    I'm really horrified that these sort of practices exist. To me, they're just another marketing venture paired with dozens of others, and many profiteers partner with eachother and racket the hapless victims back and forth - from doctor to doctor, specialist to specialist, treatment to treatment. And what's more, is that our affluent society, so full of disparity in morality, sits by and lets it all go on in travesty - a mockery of decency, but a tribute to true, raw capitalism.

    A quick fix is never a permanent one. To truly solve a problem, you must master the solution, and thus the problem. Be in command, take control, and put yourself in the position of power here, not some quack specialist.

    You can do more; you can do better; and you can do it because you have it within you.

    I wish you well, and pray that any who considers this proceedure to consider my advice also.

    -Mal
  • RunningGranny
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    Just because I'm not understanding, why did you gain it all back? What happened when you got off these programs?
    To me it sounds like you went back to your old habits, thus the weight gain. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just curious. vytamindi
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    The answer to your question is not simple or easy. The complexity of obesity is HUGE! There are common threads amongst us all but we are all also very different in the "why's," the "how's" etc. There are lifestyle components, genetic components, environmental components, and spiritual components.

    If it were as simple as just diet and exercise then there wouldn't be as many obese people in the world.

    Diet and Exercise alone works for many and to them I say BRAVO!!! Good for you!!! And I wish that were me.

    WLS is tool, not one to be taken lightly, but it is just a tool. WLS in combination with diet and exercise increases success for many people out there. Not everyone will succeed unfortunately.

    The decision for me has been part of a long, long journey to which I had some measure of success and some setbacks. The addition of the WLS to my plan, I believe, will greatly increase my odds of success this time around. javascript:add_smiley('flowerforyou','post_body')
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    Hi Annette: I hope you'll take the other woman's advice and visit some WLS forums. I don't know that folks here will be able to provide the support your looking for with respect to this part of your weight loss journey. Best of luck! (and I'm not suggesting you stop coming here, just that there may be better places for that particular bit of information, as evidenced by the replies you are getting so far).
  • skinnyskittles
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    Here in Australia we are fortunate with our health care system providing gastric band surgery and the like, if you go on the waiting list for it.
    2 years she waited and didn't do anything about her weight but like everyone else has always had the opportunity.
    Had her surgery and now 2 years down the track she is still obese.

    Her behaviour is damaging not only to herself but her family and friends as well. Do you think it wouldn't hurt to watch someone put themselves through something like I've described?
    When family and friends have been supportive to her cause (I might not seem it but I can be much gentler in person) and she continues to throw her health down the toilet (literally).

    Everyone on this message board is fighting everyday to make themselves a better person. My post was a warning, not a dig.
  • Laura8603
    Laura8603 Posts: 590 Member
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    I had gastric bypass surgery 4 years ago. Don't listen to the anti-surgery people. Some of us need the extra help. No way in hell I could have lost 200 pounds and more importantly kept it off without surgery. Do your research and make the best decision for YOU!!
  • vytamindi
    vytamindi Posts: 845 Member
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    Just because I'm not understanding, why did you gain it all back? What happened when you got off these programs?
    To me it sounds like you went back to your old habits, thus the weight gain. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just curious. vytamindi
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    The answer to your question is not simple or easy. The complexity of obesity is HUGE! There are common threads amongst us all but we are all also very different in the "why's," the "how's" etc. There are lifestyle components, genetic components, environmental components, and spiritual components.

    If it were as simple as just diet and exercise then there wouldn't be as many obese people in the world.

    Diet and Exercise alone works for many and to them I say BRAVO!!! Good for you!!! And I wish that were me.

    WLS is tool, not one to be taken lightly, but it is just a tool. WLS in combination with diet and exercise increases success for many people out there. Not everyone will succeed unfortunately.

    The decision for me has been part of a long, long journey to which I had some measure of success and some setbacks. The addition of the WLS to my plan, I believe, will greatly increase my odds of success this time around. javascript:add_smiley('flowerforyou','post_body')

    I guess my question should have been worded better. I do not know your past or am I a doctor, but if it is a weight LOSS tool, and you do really well losing weight, why have the surgery? It would seem that the most important thing right now is to find out why you keep gaining it back.

    However, if you are working close with the help of your doctor, and are totally honest about your habits with him/her, and they suggest it for you, I will trust your decision. The LAST thing I want to do is to discourage you from something that would add years to your life. I wish you nothing but the best!
    The first thing a person should ask themselves is "why am I fat?". If the answer is because I love food, because I can't control myself, because I have a need to eat even when not hungry, then surgery is NOT a good path for that person. Not until those issues are dealt with.

    THIS makes sense. I've seen you post around the forum and you seem to have a very good grasp on your health and what you need to do to be the best you can be.

    Food sucks. Unlike other addictions, it's very easy to relapse into bad habits because we need food to sustain ourselves. I hope everyone finds a way to deal with its temptations and learns to eat to live, not live to eat.
  • love3132
    love3132 Posts: 1 Member
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    hello my love3132 im a mom of 2 girl i am gettimg gastic bypass sugry in sep2012 ! so happy ! im from cleveland ,ohio ! imam319 now 1 so happy for evey one who is on the wrght track ! good louck to every one
  • jayeh2005
    jayeh2005 Posts: 9 Member
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    Hi, Annette,

    My name is Robin and I underwent a slightly different procedure 9 years ago. I weighed 444 pounds, and the reasons I decided on the surgery was because I had several medical conditions that either prevented exercise, or required exercise for function, and I was stuck between a rock and a hard place. I was told I'd continue to decline until I died. I researched the various surgeries, including the one you are going to have, and my doc, hesitant to do anything too radical because of my health, gave me a rny with a very conservative bypass.

    I made the choice to go through with the surgery because I was trying to outrun which medical condition was going to do me in, so I understand why you made the choice you did. What many people don't understand, is that while one could lose weight through diet and exercise, the surgery changes the hormonal process that assists with weight loss as well. In other words, there's a good side effect to the surgery other than limiting food intake.

    I had no illusion it was a "quick fix." It's a lifestyle change like no other, but the day I realized I could go up a flight of stairs with no problem was exhilarating. When I could exercise a whole aerobics session, I was high for the whole day. But I had to have a guarantee if I failed, there was a failsafe. I had no other options. If there's a ton of weight to lose, a negative to the weight loss is hanging skin-can't get away from that, but if one wants to live, I think it's a side effect I can live with.

    I lost over 200 pounds, which was my target loss. My docs did not want me losing any more than that. Because I had to go on steroids and chemotherapy for severe psoriatic arthritis in 2008, I gained 100 pounds back. Part of it crept up on me. 70 pounds was related to the meds (and gained in two months). Until my condition went into remission, I was damned if I could lose weight at that point, and it was demoralizing.

    The arthritis went into remission and now I can get some results from dieting. I've lost 30 of the 100 I need to get back to my original goal, and my pouch has kicked in again. I would like to lose another 40 more on top of the 100, but this time, I'll do it one minigoal at a time, and not worry about how fast I'm losing so long as I'm losing. My self esteem is fairly robust, and I don't care any more about beating myself up with negativity.

    The emotional side of obesity is so overlooked, and I think for most folks with the most to lose, it's the biggest issue. My depression drug me down, and my self esteem was shot. I had to heal those emotional issues, and it was the hardest thing I've done. The diet is easy-it's my self regard that is my demon. I think I've got that devil shoved into a corner right now, but I try to remain humble so that demon don't sneak up on me.

    Annette, I've been there-if you need support, you can friend me-I promise I'll friend back! And there are some other people here who have been where we've been and who've offered wise advice, such as really continue to research what your life is going to be like after the surgery, and make a good plan to make the most of the switch.

    Much, much good health and happiness!

    Metta, Robin
  • GabsMommy28
    GabsMommy28 Posts: 47 Member
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    I didn't read all of the replies so I don't know if this was brought up but ... do you ever plan to have children. Cause it is not safe to have children after the surgery. The baby won't get the nutrition it needs.
    Think this through a lot.
    Plus it is not a guarantee, you can gain the weight back. Your stomach can stretch back out.