Plus Size Self Esteem

right on girl!

Just throwing this out there, why do people assume just because a person is heavyset, they are depressed with low self esteem? Believe it or not, there are gorgeous plus size people who give these skinny minnies a run for their money...Just don't get it...lol

Around here, the old school "drowning yourself in food" is a common thought for the depression. Because we cant cope, we turn to food, blah blah blah.....

Its alot of hocum

i think that used to be the case when food was actually food, but now food's not really food, so it's way easier to gain weight without even realizing it. the worst part is it seems "normal" because it's blasted at you in every direction (television, billboards, internet... it's enough to make a person go MAD, i tell you: MAAAAAD) hehee

but in seriousness, it used to be more of a stigma to be overweight because it actually takes a fair amount of effort to get heavy on real food which leans on gluttony, which is a big no no "por lo general".

Only thing I am unhappy about is all the skin on my belly.. *kitten* looks like an old ladies *kitten*!!!!

Heyyy! I resemble that remark! Well, shucks, there goes my self esteem! I hope you're feeling really remorseful for that!

didn't mean to offend anybody skinny. all I said is a size 00 is not a size. That's crazy and I'm not saying it against the thin people I am saying it against whoever is changing the size of clothes. Growing up there wasn't such a thing as a 00 size of clothes...and believe me we had our share of twigs at school...but at least they wore a "real size".

what you're talking about is vanity sizing.

i am a vanity size 14, but in vintage clothing I am a 20. it's a pretty significant difference. it's all about what people want you to buy, so they market the clothing to appeal to the ego

That darn vintage clothing problem! (Can't wait to get back into my vintage dresses!)

didn't mean to offend anybody skinny. all I said is a size 00 is not a size. That's crazy and I'm not saying it against the thin people I am saying it against whoever is changing the size of clothes. Growing up there wasn't such a thing as a 00 size of clothes...and believe me we had our share of twigs at school...but at least they wore a "real size".

Well, actually, it is a size now. Just because it wasn't a size when you were growing up doesn't mean it's imaginary now. So they changed the way they size clothes. It's done and now 00 is a size. And there are real, live people who wear that size.

didn't mean to offend anybody skinny. all I said is a size 00 is not a size. That's crazy and I'm not saying it against the thin people I am saying it against whoever is changing the size of clothes. Growing up there wasn't such a thing as a 00 size of clothes...and believe me we had our share of twigs at school...but at least they wore a "real size".

Well, actually, it is a size now. Just because it wasn't a size when you were growing up doesn't mean it's imaginary now. So they changed the way they size clothes. It's done and now 00 is a size. And there are real, live people who wear that size.

I think the issue here is the constant sizes changing, and not whether people wear them or not. There is no continuity. This whole vanity sizing has changed how sizes are perceived.
And in a way I think it has made it more acceptable to be bigger. I'm not saying whether that is a bad thing or a good thing. But the very phrase itself "vanity sizing" places emphasis on a size being acceptable and a person feeling good about themselves based on the size they wear. It is dis-empowering, in the same way that telling a skinny person they are too skinny, or a fat person they are too fat is.
Health At Every Size. Surely this is what we should be striving for. Being physically, and emotionally healthy wherever we stand on the planet!
To feel liberated, whoever and wherever you are. To know you are more than a number, more than your appearance.

I agree it's annoying -- even more so when you walk into one store and wear one size and then walk into another and it's too big or too small, not to mention that the exact same piece of clothing, in a different color, will not fit in the same size as another.

But I found what was said about 00 not being a real size kind of insulting to the people who do actually wear it. It exists, whether you agree with it or not, you know? That's like saying size 28 isn't a size because no one should ever be that big. I don't think the fashion industry is going to change how it sizes clothes any time soon. If someone fits into a 00, that's the size that person wears.

didn't mean to offend anybody skinny. all I said is a size 00 is not a size. That's crazy and I'm not saying it against the thin people I am saying it against whoever is changing the size of clothes. Growing up there wasn't such a thing as a 00 size of clothes...and believe me we had our share of twigs at school...but at least they wore a "real size".

Well, actually, it is a size now. Just because it wasn't a size when you were growing up doesn't mean it's imaginary now. So they changed the way they size clothes. It's done and now 00 is a size. And there are real, live people who wear that size.

I think the issue here is the constant sizes changing, and not whether people wear them or not. There is no continuity. This whole vanity sizing has changed how sizes are perceived.
And in a way I think it has made it more acceptable to be bigger. I'm not saying whether that is a bad thing or a good thing. But the very phrase itself "vanity sizing" places emphasis on a size being acceptable and a person feeling good about themselves based on the size they wear. It is dis-empowering, in the same way that telling a skinny person they are too skinny, or a fat person they are too fat is.
Health At Every Size. Surely this is what we should be striving for. Being physically, and emotionally healthy wherever we stand on the planet!
To feel liberated, whoever and wherever you are. To know you are more than a number, more than your appearance.

I agree it's annoying -- even more so when you walk into one store and wear one size and then walk into another and it's too big or too small, not to mention that the exact same piece of clothing, in a different color, will not fit in the same size as another.

But I found what was said about 00 not being a real size kind of insulting to the people who do actually wear it. It exists, whether you agree with it or not, you know? That's like saying size 28 isn't a size because no one should ever be that big. I don't think the fashion industry is going to change how it sizes clothes any time soon. If someone fits into a 00, that's the size that person wears.

I agree with vanity sizing and inconsistencies within sizing being defeating. I am sad that people need the size on their label to validate them as a human. I use the sizing on my clothes (from brands I wear often and know) or the measurement of the waist/bust to guide me in my success of staying on track but it does not change the way I feel about myself as a person.
I want to rule out the chance of going to an early grave or the very least not having a full elderly life because of my weight. I'm healthy now but who says that wont change.

Look, I play derby. I've said it all over the place. If you really want to see WHY all sizes are acceptable go and see a bout. Every single player on that track is useful and effective no matter what their size. Some are big hitters, some are intimidating and others can shut down other players like a bomb. We learn to use our sizes to the best of our advantage against all players of all sizes. I had a girl who stands no more than 5 feet and weigh no more than 45kg/99lbs hand my butt to me the other day. I over double her weight and stand 4 inches taller.
Even at my size I can keep up fairly and do my job.
I have a girl that outweighs me by at least 20-30kgs/44-66 lbs and stands 2-3 inches taller who skates faster than me and has better stamina. And she can level any player on that track.
Health at any size is really shown in this sport and is really empowering. Sure, I'm the fittest I have been in my whole life. I skate 2-3 times most weeks and do off skates strength and cardio related to my sport. It's hard. It hurts. We scream. I've pushed many times until I've vomited.

I also hate bigger people, or anyone for that fact, body bashing on others who are different from them. Even before I started playing. Someone else's body size is not your business when it doesn't effect you. If you aren't partnered with them or are in a position to care for them if they become ill SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
Body bashing just tells me that you are insecure about the way YOU feel and need to draw attention away. Just like any other bully. I am personally scared for those who are clearly ill or ones who are doing themselves potential harm from their habits and behaviours. It doesn't however give me the right to call them disgusting, sick or gross.

I want the people who feel it is their given right to 'call others out' when they lose the weight how they would have felt at their lowest point if someone close or even a stranger called them those names. How helpful it would have been. To say that you think that is your right and one of your goals makes me sick. Way to be positive and helpful.

I love this site..but it's just like any other forum somebody takes something somebody says and turns it into something it's not. "I" stated "I" do not think 00 is a size. Don't be telling me how I"m bashing people that wear it. I will never agree that it is a size and have 2 double zero friends and tell them on a DAILY basis..that 00 is not a size and our banter is way more fun than arguing with people on here about it.

and now I read that there are double zero people offended that they are 00 and want a - in front of their number so they can be smaller than they already are. For goddess sake let's just take it to s m l xl and so on so forth..get rid of the stupid numbers.


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