~1500cal/day, feeling satisfied, but not losing weight!

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  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I have not been diagnosed with a thyroid problem. I got a message from someone suggesting my protein might be too high...I'm thinking this could be it since I recently upped my protein intake about 20g in the past few weeks and that's really when I started gaining the weight now that I think back!

    I've considered going paleo, but don't know if I could get rid of oats or tortillas! Dairy would be just fine for me since I used to be vegan, and really only overload on the Greek yogurt because it has sooo much protein. I do not drink milk. Plus, I don't eat meat and from what I've read, grass-fed beef and meats are a big part, right?

    Mrs. Dash is garlic, "onion, black pepper, parsley, fennel, basil, bay, marjoram, oregano, savory, thyme, cayenne pepper, cariander, cumin, mustard, rosemary, celery seed, carrot, orange peel, spice extractives". Nutrition label has 0s all across the board. Are any of those spices irritating/problematic? I have no idea.

    Your protein is not too high at all.

    You will have a very hard time with paloe if you do not eat meat. You also need to give up dairy so you will also have a hard time getting enough protein (not saying it is impossible, just hard).
  • TheFitnessTutor
    TheFitnessTutor Posts: 356 Member
    If anything, sometimes I feel like I have over-eaten.

    Because you are!

    Being at 1500 or 1200 calories is great and all, but if you are eating most of your calories in one sitting (dinner) then you are causing your metabolism to go into shock!!!! And what is this garbage about you skipping lunch???

    I have a suggestion for you, go to your categories and chance them to the following: 1st meal, 2nd meal, 3rd meal, 4th meal, Snacks, Sweet Tooth... Now, you may never use 4th meal but it exists in the event that you get hungry again and have a "meal".

    A meal is any food you eat that includes protein. You should have a balanced "meal" every time you eat. Zone diet people will say 30% carbs, 30% fats, 40% protein; I say the best ratio is 50% carbs (25% coming from fresh veggies), 30% fats, 20% protein. Only a person who IS exercising should eat more protein. But if you are living a mostly sedentary life then you are wasting your calories eating all that protein (which is high in calorie).

    Also, next time you grab a "sugary" carb, remember that your insulin level is going to go up if it has a high glycemic index value. All breads, chips, crackers, tortillas, and processed foods have a high glycemic index value; this means it causes insulin levels to go insanely high. And while there is insulin in your blood, your fat in your fat cells cannot be burned.

    I know the food pyramid and the "myplate" both want you to eat lots of grains, but try living without them for a week (this includes corn) and see how things go for your weight loss. You may be surprised how much more energy you have getting your energy from brocolli, carrots, apples, green beans, and peas.


    Right...here we go with the bro science. And this is what's wrong with the "industry" Unfortunately it's 3 am and I'm about to go to bed. But just let me say that anyone reading this please just don't confuse yourself any further by paying attention to anything in this paragraph. Ok? Or just go to TheFitnessTutor.com and read around. New stuff coming soon, new site coming soon. Free giveaways, no there's nothing there you can buy!

    No more protein unless you're exercising? There are only three sources of calories, barring alcohol...metabolically, you would have them run more fat and carbs ???
    And protein...high in calories? did you just say that? Did you just sum up protein and vilify it??? This in and of itself should be cause to totally disregard your whole paragraph. Protein. it's 4 calories per gram, like carbs. 9 for fats.
    gci is not even worth discussing unless you have a disease.
    Yes we can do without grains. That was just some government crap to make you eat the subsidized farmers produce and keep getting votes, same thing with dairy. We're the only animal that thinks we should suck from the tit of another species, not to mention doing so when we're completely grown.

    Lets remember something here folks...losing weight is not something the body wants to do for one. For two, if it does want to do it, as soon as it does, it doesn't want to anymore. Know why? It doesn't care what you think is cute or acceptable or what t.v. magazines, media, or school has led you to believe or have even um...supposedly "taught" you...obviously. Metabolism goes into shock....hahaha....laughable.

    Hey op if I'm not back just inbox me... for crying out loud people.... MFP.....
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    What's the recommended mg for sodium? I'm averaging about 1700mg/day.

    I've read up a little on IF, and don't know where I stand on the issue. Mark's Daily Apple had an article on it a few weeks ago, suggesting it may not be as beneficial for women as it is for men!

    Your sodium levels are totally fine unless you have a pre-existing medical reason to be lower.

    How long have you been restricting calories for and how long has your weigh been increasing for?
  • yrhee
    yrhee Posts: 21
    You people are awesome :) Thanks for throwing your suggestions at me...I'm willing to try anything (within reason!). Sarauk, already messaged you. FitnessTut I'll message you tomorrow if you don't remember! Thank you!!
  • A meal is any food you eat that includes protein. You should have a balanced "meal" every time you eat. Zone diet people will say 30% carbs, 30% fats, 40% protein; I say the best ratio is 50% carbs (25% coming from fresh veggies), 30% fats, 20% protein. Only a person who IS exercising should eat more protein. But if you are living a mostly sedentary life then you are wasting your calories eating all that protein (which is high in calorie).
  • sorry i meant to quote that lol

    how is protein "high in calories" ????
    LOL
    protein , same as carbs has only 4 calories per gram
    the only high calorie macros are fats which account for 9 calories per gram!
  • TheFitnessTutor
    TheFitnessTutor Posts: 356 Member
    What are your stats...height, weight, body fat percentage if you have any idea, or describe your body.

    here's a hint. Your body doesn't need "carbs" to live. You only need protein and fats. Think about it...that's what you are. Do you see any carbs layin around your body? A few measly grams in your muscles and your liver and those can be gone in a matter of hours. We can make all the carbs we need. Replace your fruit with veggies and/or save your carbs, or most of your carbs, for after your workout, which shouldn't be too long or too hard if you're eating 1500 calories. If we were lost in the woods, I'd be looking for a rabbit or deer, not digging for potatoes and you'd gladly eat it even if you're with peta. Haha....

    Plenty of research supports these simple facts. And go get some fish oil stat. Not flax or flax seed, fish oil....go to wal mart if you have to.
  • katcunock
    katcunock Posts: 664 Member
    Thanks!! That is VERY true, after I work out I am always SO hungry and eat almost all calories I burned. I try to make sure it isn't over my daily allowance total, but I eat a disproportionate amount immediately after workout and try to tighten up at other times of day since I worked out.

    You should also make sure that you never exercise on an empty stomach,. Eat about half an hour before your work out, then you won't be so hungry after. Also drink a LOT during exercise and then have a big drink after. Our body sends the same sigal to our brains for thirst and hunger, so drinking lots will mean you know if you are truly hungry.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    500 calories of snacks on several days ? Try halving that. Exercise every other day. Don't eat before doing cardio as you use more fat if you're fasted.
  • TheFitnessTutor
    TheFitnessTutor Posts: 356 Member
    I may sound harsh but I'm truly a comedian. You'll just have to stick around til I start doing videos....

    1. I say there's no such thing as a "meal replacement"...I mean think about...pay for this and think you're not eating? Please, there's no need to waste money on naturade or whatever ever again. Eat as much real food as possible. Spend that money on some chicken or fish or steak and get some fish oil. And soy is totally overrated. Actually I wouldn't even eat it.
    2. Kill the bananas.... no need if you're trying to lose weight. Black beans, kale, collards, give you potassium. Not to mention whole meats. Unless you just love bananas. Try to hold off until after your workout. Cut bak on fruit period for a while if you can.
    3. Pretty typical. You're either afraid of meat, or can't afford it. Which one is it? Eat more meat, less carbs. Your liver is full and that in and of itself will make it harder to burn fat. I would shoot for no carbs or starches until after your workout. Don't want or know how to workout, just go walk for an hour. Carbs 100 grams or under for as many days as you can stand it up to 3 weeks. Meat and veggies, olive oil, good fats, avocados, veggies with your meats...While keeping your calories up. If you pull that off, you absolutely MUST have a carb load after there weeks. 3 400 grams of carbs or more.

    Yes this is all barring any disease or malfunction. Let us know if you have any. It's always a good idea to get your hormones checked. Chances are you just need to eat better and do something strenuous with your muscles, i.e. lift weights...to increase insulin sensitivity among other things.

    "carbs in the morning" yes if you want to run up your chance of craving carbs later. Again, you don't need them. Try to hold off on them until later. This will keep your liver glycogen low. Which is what you want right now. I don't do ratios. The 90's called, they want that outdated method back. Tell us your stats....height,weight, body type, percentage estimate or something or put a pic up. Chop your face off if you have to...noone cares. It's Mfp.

    IF is fine for a female...you lovely ladies just tend to get crazy, antsy, and try to workout too much to "lose weight faster" or you want to under eat for the same reason. It might be a good fit for you if you're not hungry much. I do IF most of the time now. Or full 24 hour or more fasts throw in, mixed up with every other protocol in the book.
    So what are your stats and your workout habits?
  • ketchup38
    ketchup38 Posts: 112 Member
    yrhee. I am almost in the same position as you, except that I am around 176pounds, so 36 pounds heavier.
    I was eating around 1400, then stalled, so increased it to 1500 since most of the calculators stated that my BMR was around this level. Even with a sedentary level and a 20% deduction off my TDEE 1500 is still around the same ballpark. Exercise with cardio & strength 3-4 times a week. Yet for the past 6 weeks. Nothing.
    I have seen folks recommend sites such as scoobyworkshop & fat2fit radio, but just like you find that the suggested calorific levels are quite high! If I am feeling like this at 1500 after a month, how can you tell me that 1700+ will give me better results?
    Yes I feel satisfied, yes I have more energy to workout, but I am still not registering any changes on the scale or with my measuring tape. I think the last resort maybe to go down to a 1200 level diet.
    I eat a lot of proteins & veg, because it keeps me filled up for longer, and also because I come from a low-carb mind-set.
    Please do share what your results are if you get your metabolism tested, I have booked an appointment with my GP to have my thyroid tested. So it should be interesting to compare results.
  • bulbadoof
    bulbadoof Posts: 1,058 Member
    Keep your eye on portion sizing - weigh everything if you have to.
  • HI,

    If you havenoticed drier skin and hair it might be worth getting you thyroid checked out - just in case.
    :laugh:
  • MessyLittlePanda
    MessyLittlePanda Posts: 213 Member
    Do you do any form of resistance training? I tend to find that cardio alone doesn't solve my problems.
  • sarahmoo12
    sarahmoo12 Posts: 756 Member
    some good reading on this :)
  • Amen!
  • Paleo!
  • KristyHumphrey
    KristyHumphrey Posts: 248 Member
    bump!
  • Smuterella
    Smuterella Posts: 1,623 Member
    I'm in the exact some boat - same height and same weight (I've gone up from 132 to 139 over the past few weeks) and have been exercising 5 times a week and eating at 1500.

    So far I've tried every reasonable and unreasonable calorie level (1200, 1300, 1400, 1500, 1650, 1800 and 2000) and have not lost on any of them. I've tried each of these for around a month and only lost at 1200 with no exercise. Not good.

    I have decided my problem is one of two things - either my birth control (depo ran out 6 weeks ago and replaced it with Mirena - so yet to see if this makes a difference) or alcohol (so going dry for a month - maybe more).

    If I'm still not losing anything by Christmas I'm giving up, really. It is only my love of running that is keeping me going at all.

    Let me know if you find something that works, I'm really starting to feel desperate now.
  • Off10h8ed
    Off10h8ed Posts: 282 Member
    Have your doctor check your thyroid function.

    I would go with this also. I have a thyroid issue and it is real easy to gain weight and harder to lose it.
    Hypothyroidism can hit at anytime. Just a thought...
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    Lisa, have you considered a medical consult and some customized help? Don't give up :)
  • Nikiki
    Nikiki Posts: 993
    You might try switching things up a little, you seem to be eating pretty clean which is great but if your diet and exercise is virtually the same every day your body gets used to it and becomes more efficient, slowing your metabolism. You can try calorie cycling (figure your total calorie intake for the week: say 10,200 and then have 2 days at 1,200, 2 days at 1400, 2 days at 1600 and one at 1800) change up your workouts: if you're a cardio person switch to mostly strength training and the do shorter hiit workouts for your cardio. And I feel like mfp overestimates my workout calories burned so I always adjust them down.

    Also make sure you're measuring properly, I finally got a food scale an realized that things like my granola and oats were too big of servings, for example my granola says 2/3 of a cup should be 55 grams when really barely half a cup equals the 55 grams so each serving I was pouring was about 100 more calories than I was tracking it as!

    You can also try going low carb for a few weeks to see if that does anything for you.

    By the way how's that vega protein? I've almost bought it a few times but didnt want to spend the money in case it's gross :)
  • kellicci
    kellicci Posts: 409 Member
    Am I mising something? If you exercise and hour a day and only log 1200 calories per day then you aren;t really netting the 1200 you need....you'd be netting like 700....I'm new to this so I could be wrong but I don't see your exercise logged.

    I would think if you exercise an hour a day you'd need more like 1500-1700 calories a day. Am I worng?

    I'm about your weight (I think) but shorter and I gained like 5 pounds in one week of traveling then seemed to stall for the first couple weeks but now that I'm netting around 1300 a day I've lost 2! Don't give up you can do it!
  • norcal_yogi
    norcal_yogi Posts: 675 Member
    Thanks!! That is VERY true, after I work out I am always SO hungry and eat almost all calories I burned. I try to make sure it isn't over my daily allowance total, but I eat a disproportionate amount immediately after workout and try to tighten up at other times of day since I worked out.

    You should also make sure that you never exercise on an empty stomach,. Eat about half an hour before your work out, then you won't be so hungry after. Also drink a LOT during exercise and then have a big drink after. Our body sends the same sigal to our brains for thirst and hunger, so drinking lots will mean you know if you are truly hungry.

    .......you can def exercise on an empty stomach! ugh.
  • nicolemarie045
    nicolemarie045 Posts: 131 Member
    In the exact same boat....netting anywhere from 1200-1500 each day and not losing anything since February. I have switched up exercise, tried eat more to lose more for 2 months, nothing. Gained 6 lbs! So, trust me.. you aren't alone. I am currently *trying* to limit carbs to see if that helps!
  • weird_me2
    weird_me2 Posts: 716 Member
    I think you're eating more calories than you think. Looking at your diary entry, I see a lot of stuff that seems to be artificially low in calories (like the high fiber tortillas and the noOodles). Those products seem to be subtracting the fiber from the calorie count, and, especially in the case of the noOodles, you still get calories from the soluble fiber in the products. On the tortilla from yesterday, the math doesn't add up if you look at the nutrition label. It says 60 calories but calculates to at least 86.

    Plus, you seem to be eating fractions of stuff a lot of times. Are you actually measuring out .13 scoops of protein powder? How are you doing that? I would recommend getting a digital food scale and weighing your portions, especially since you eat a lot of small portions of a lot of things. With as many foods as you eat per day, even if you are off by only 5-10 calories per item, that could add up to 100-250 extra calories a day, and that doesn't account for the high fiber stuff that has incorrect calories anyway.
  • GrammaBonnie
    GrammaBonnie Posts: 232 Member
    Here's my advice, for what it's worth:
    1. Go get a physical, and have your blood and hormone levels checked.
    2. Purchase a kitchen scale, and weigh EVERYTHING. (I found that weighing gave me much different proportions than measuring cups, and measuring cups were far more accurate than my eye.)
    3. Purchase a good heart rate monitor. (I like Polar)
    4. Log EVERYTHING, including your exercise. Don't be lazy, put your food in for the appropriate meal.
    5. Consider setting your diary up for Breakfast, Midmorning Snack, Lunch, Midafternoon Snack, Dinner, Evening Snack
    6. Don't trust MFP numbers for calories and macros. Check them yourself.
    7. Eat whole foods, and avoid prepared foods like the plague!

    Good luck.
  • islandmonkey
    islandmonkey Posts: 546 Member
    Have your doctor check your thyroid function.

    I would go with this also. I have a thyroid issue and it is real easy to gain weight and harder to lose it.
    Hypothyroidism can hit at anytime. Just a thought...


    I agree that it can't hurt to get your thyroid checked (amongst all the other good advice). Just be aware of two things:

    1. Most doctors will still try to diagnose thyroid disorder based only on testing your TSH. TSH is a measure of a hormone from your pituitary gland and not your thyroid, therefore it doesn't provide the whole picture. Ensure you also get your free T3 and free T4 tested (not total T3/T4). The free T3/T4 should ideally be within the top 1/3 of the range your lab uses.

    2. Most doctors also use outdated TSH ranges, which is especially a problem if this is the sole test used to diagnose. Outdated normal range is .5-5.0. Updated range is .3-3.0. Therefore, if your TSH is 4.2 and you don't get the specific number or the other labs, your doctor could say your thyroid is "normal" even though it may not be.

    Always ask for a copy of your labs, so you have them for your records!
  • susannamarie
    susannamarie Posts: 2,148 Member
    Yeah, there is something wrong with some of the food entries you are using.

    If you add up the calories from protein/fat/carbs, yesterday I get 1337 (your counter says 1219), Sunday I get 1759 (your counter says 1593), et cetera.

    Some of your foods are measured in tablespoons. Are you using a level tablespoon to measure them? If it's heaping, that could double your calories from those. Same with cup measurements, you need to be using a level but not packed cup.

    I'd investigate accuracy of intake measurement.
  • Dudagarcia
    Dudagarcia Posts: 849 Member
    If anything, sometimes I feel like I have over-eaten.

    Because you are!

    Being at 1500 or 1200 calories is great and all, but if you are eating most of your calories in one sitting (dinner) then you are causing your metabolism to go into shock!!!! And what is this garbage about you skipping lunch???

    I have a suggestion for you, go to your categories and chance them to the following: 1st meal, 2nd meal, 3rd meal, 4th meal, Snacks, Sweet Tooth... Now, you may never use 4th meal but it exists in the event that you get hungry again and have a "meal".

    A meal is any food you eat that includes protein. You should have a balanced "meal" every time you eat. Zone diet people will say 30% carbs, 30% fats, 40% protein; I say the best ratio is 50% carbs (25% coming from fresh veggies), 30% fats, 20% protein. Only a person who IS exercising should eat more protein. But if you are living a mostly sedentary life then you are wasting your calories eating all that protein (which is high in calorie).

    Also, next time you grab a "sugary" carb, remember that your insulin level is going to go up if it has a high glycemic index value. All breads, chips, crackers, tortillas, and processed foods have a high glycemic index value; this means it causes insulin levels to go insanely high. And while there is insulin in your blood, your fat in your fat cells cannot be burned.

    I know the food pyramid and the "myplate" both want you to eat lots of grains, but try living without them for a week (this includes corn) and see how things go for your weight loss. You may be surprised how much more energy you have getting your energy from brocolli, carrots, apples, green beans, and peas.

    Interesting bump for later