Surprisingly UN-healthy
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The milk is a shock to me. Does it list sugar as an added ingredient??0
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I went through the same realization lately. I honestly had no idea how bad a lot of things were for me. Once I started paying attention to the labels and looking at nutrition values for restaurants online, I was blown away. I thought that by passing on my beloved ranch dressing and ordering balsamic vinaigrette at a restaurant, I was making the smart choice, but most restaurants somehow manage to pack more than 100 calories into two tablespoons of balsamic. HOW? As a result, I keep trying to find a decent leak proof travel salad container to just take my own to the restaurants. I also thought my morning granola bars were good for me, but they were packed with sugar and saturated fat.
The second epiphany came to me when I realized that when looking at the labels, the calories WEREN'T the most important thing to pay attention to. If higher in calories also means higher in protein and fiber while lower on sugar than the other options, I will go with the higher calorie option because the protein and fiber will keep me fuller longer. Learning how to effectively read nutritional labels was a much longer process than one would think. But since I learned how to read them and what to eat, I actually find it difficult to reach my 1400 calories every day, often times even 1200 is a stretch. It turns out there is plenty of delicious food that is healthy and good for you that keeps you FULL and satisfied.
Love this post....... looking at and reading / understanding the labels is the most over looked but important thing we can do for ourselves0 -
I think the majority of people on here are trying to lose weight to get healthier
I actually think the majority of people are trying to lose weight for vanity reasons. Difference of opinion I guess.
I'll admit that's the main reason I'm doing it. Getting healthier is an added bonus. lol! :laugh:
My major focus is health related - I want to lose enough weight so that I won't have to take blood pressure medication anymore (or at least be able to cut way back), and I also want to increase my endurance, strengthen my lungs (and hopefully cut back or eliminate my asthma meds). If I happen to look better as a result ... no complaints here!
But it's definitely not my main goal, not at all. 0 -
I'm not diabetic, but sugar is my problem. It is the reason I ever needed to lose weight. I have an addiction to sugar. Once I start eating it, it snowballs out of control.
Therefore, I try to eliminate it from my diet. Yes, that means I look at all labels, try to eat mostly raw, whole foods, limit my fruits and vegetables to low glycemic, drink unsweetened almond milk, use truvia in my coffee (and I limit my coffee to one a day, so even truvia is limited).
I guess it depends on what your weakness is; I find I stay trim when I cut the sugar; I gain quickly when I don't0 -
I disagree with the "calories in, calories out" that everyone keeps saying. If you eat 1500 calories a day of healthy food, you are going to be a lot healthier than if you ate 1500 calories of junk. Maybe you could lose weight eating junk but you wouldn't be healthy.
Voice of reason.
I'd argue that the weight loss would be better on the healthy food too.
It's not all about calories in and out.
Hold on, I'll say that again ... It's not all about calories in and out.
One more time for the hard of thinking ... It's not all about calories in and out.
It IS calories in/calories out, with the caveat that actual absorption of calories might be lower with whole foods vs. processed foods (or raw vs. cooked). Now, it is true that eating nothing but twinkies for your alloted calories would leave you jittery, hungry and probably lead to scurvy, but if you were locked in a dungeon and the only food available was 1200 calories of twinkies shoved into your cell each morning, you would lose weight. (and teeth, probably)0 -
My favorite sandwich is either a 6 in or foot long oven roasted chicken sub on wheat from Subway. I'm unique in that I only like the bread and the meat.
All I get is the bread, the chicken, a little buffalo sauce, and some oregano.
It's about 320 cal & 5 grams of fat in a 6 inch. So, not too bad. It's probably a little heavy on the carbs and sodium though.
I also only like the bread and the meat and I get asked a million times if I'm sure I don't want anything else on my sandwiches. Ah I love my plain sandwiches! I hate condiments.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
Actually it depends on your body type and tolerances. Granted, I have PCOS, but if I eat too many refined carbs and stay under my calories I gain in under 24 hours. But if I eat the same calories without the carby stuff I lose. Some peoples bodies just don't process certain things the same way.
This is me... I also have PCOS. I eat carbs, but I eat good carbs. If I don't, the weight comes back immediately and I have a hard time losing it again. It works for me. I did find that after a fairly short period of time after changing my diet, my carb cravings all but disappeared. Bagels are my total downfall, and I could eat one every day. Now that's my 1 day a week "treat" and generally before one of my intense work out days with my trainer.0 -
a calorie is a calorie. if you hit your macro and micronutrients you'll be healthy.
^ This. And before anyone completely misses the boat on this, the "YOU MEAN YOU CAN EAT CAKE ALL DAY DERP?!" arguments are misunderstanding what the above means. Try hitting your nutrient requirements with massive amounts of junk food and you'll quickly discover that you can't do it.0 -
ABSOLUTELY EXCITING FOR YOU! GREAT JOB!!!0
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Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.
yes, your body is magically different from everyone elses. biochemistry must not apply to you0 -
As a type one diabetic ha shown me ......there are no essential carbs.
Turn that body into a fat burning machine...
You will stay ripped all of the time.0 -
I went to Pret A Manger this morning to pick up breakfast and lunch for today and got a Vietnamese Banh Mih and a Meatball Wrap that was supposed to be under 300 cal. I didn't think much of it b/c it's all natural and came across healthy, but wow, that really put a damper in my day. (Check out my diary lol).
I then look at other people's diaries, and they eat a lot of processed stuff, but it comes out with less numbers than what I have sometimes and I don't get it. LOL
Agh, lesson learned to not eat out, just don't. ):0 -
I look at everything now. It's crazy how many things have sugar, corn syrup, added sugar, soy protein, wheat, etc in it when it has NO business being there.0
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The milk is a shock to me. Does it list sugar as an added ingredient??
The sugar found in milk is the natural sugar lactose and there is nothing wrong with is. Same type of natural sugar that's found in plain yogurt.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.
yes, your body is magically different from everyone elses. biochemistry must not apply to you
I am not a moron, and I don't appreciate your tone. I think I can observe the kinds of foods that cause me to get sick. Some of us have health issues, that perhaps you have no comprehension of because things are so simple for you and your calories in/calories out mentality. Be thankful it's so easy for you.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.
yes, your body is magically different from everyone elses. biochemistry must not apply to you
I am not a moron, and I don't appreciate your tone. I think I can observe the kinds of foods that cause me to get sick. Some of us have health issues, that perhaps you have no comprehension of because things are so simple for you and your calories in/calories out mentality. Be thankful it's so easy for you.
obviously if you have some ailment or illness then you may have to work around things in your diet. but for the majority of people without those problems it simply calories in vs. calories out while meeting your macro and micronutrients. i thought it was a given i was talking about healthy individuals. everyone claims their body is different but in most cases it is not.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.
yes, your body is magically different from everyone elses. biochemistry must not apply to you
I am not a moron, and I don't appreciate your tone. I think I can observe the kinds of foods that cause me to get sick. Some of us have health issues, that perhaps you have no comprehension of because things are so simple for you and your calories in/calories out mentality. Be thankful it's so easy for you.
obviously if you have some ailment or illness then you may have to work around things in your diet. but for the majority of people without those problems it simply calories in vs. calories out while meeting your macro and micronutrients. i thought it was a given i was talking about healthy individuals. everyone claims their body is different but in most cases it is not.
I was going to walk away from this thread until I saw your comment. The basis of you comment is that it is calories in vs calories out as long as your make you macro and micro nutrients. Generally speaking I would agree, but I would respond by stating that it ignores the fact it is hard to make the micro and macro nutrient numbers if you eat a lot of carbs and sugars (not impossible, but unlikely).
With your opinion that everyone's body is generally the same I will call 'a foul. Every person's body has a different set of experiences and so their metabolism is defined in part by all the past food, exercise, lifestyle, etc. For example, some people do not lose weight with a lot of sugar and carbs. Additionally, there are so many complex organ and hormone systems in the body that it can be a challenge to find what works for the individual. It is for this reason that if a person does not see a change they need to reformulate their diet and change again. In the end what works for me may not work for you and vice versa.
Calories in vs calories out is a start not the end of a weight loss journey, the actual balance of nutrients is ultimately the real hard work.0 -
How is stating calories in vs. calories out while meeting your macro and micronutrient goals(which would be balancing your nutrients) needs ignoring that fact? I did say while meeting those goals. it is true that generally in terms of healthy(key word) individuals their bodies are not much different in many aspects.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html0 -
It's also about eating more fruits and veggies, drinking tons of water, less processed foods and portion control. A slice of bread be it white or whole wheat has 3 tbsp's of sugar.....just saying0
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How is stating calories in vs. calories out while meeting your macro and micronutrient goals(which would be balancing your nutrients) needs ignoring that fact? I did say while meeting those goals. it is true that generally in terms of healthy(key word) individuals their bodies are not much different in many aspects.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html
I apologize as I may not have been clear in my previous comment,. What I was saying is that if you eat too many nutrient lacking carbs and sugar you will not make your goals on either macro or micro nutrients. To some extent our current diet gets so much nutrition beaten out of the food only to have some of it replenished and fortified it can be difficult to get enough nutrients.
I was saying that the way you phrased the statement it appeared that one could eat all the carbs or sugar under their calorie goal and still make certain micro nutrient goals (obviously it has the ability to throw off macro nutrients by percentage). On this point I suppose we are saying the same idea, but in different ways.0 -
If the guy is cutting down on sugar..he's most likely cutting down on calories. So, he found a way to do that.. Good for him.
As far as restaurants? I've decided when I go..I'm going to get something obviously fattening...because then I know what I'm dealing with. Nothing worse than getting a grilled piece of fish and vegetables and it ends up having as many calories as something "bad" for you.
Avoid eating out if you can.0 -
Oh yeah and some might want to throw exercising in there.0
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I apologize as I may not have been clear in my previous comment,. What I was saying is that if you eat too many nutrient lacking carbs and sugar you will not make your goals on either macro or micro nutrients. To some extent our current diet gets so much nutrition beaten out of the food only to have some of it replenished and fortified it can be difficult to get enough nutrients.
I was saying that the way you phrased the statement it appeared that one could eat all the carbs or sugar under their calorie goal and still make certain micro nutrient goals (obviously it has the ability to throw off macro nutrients by percentage). On this point I suppose we are saying the same idea, but in different ways.
agreed. sorry if what i was saying was unclear.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.
yes, your body is magically different from everyone elses. biochemistry must not apply to you
You are so rude. Of course not everybody is the same. Not everybody has allergies and sensitivities to certain substances. You can be a smug as you like but I know I cant eat wheat, it makes me vomit, double up in awful pain, swell up in both my stomach area and joints. As I have got older it has got worse. I have cut out all grains, cane sugar and most dairy and feel like my life has been given back to me. I am loosing weight on more calories.....so why is that do you think? There are a lot of people like me.0 -
Some of these I totally get why the concern, but others, not so much. Nature's Own Honey Wheat Bread only has 2g sugar/serving, according to their website. That's pretty low in the world of bread.
On the skim milk - 1 cup of whole milk also has 12g of sugar. Milk naturally has lactose (a sugar) in it. Unless your milk has added sugar on the label, then those 12g are natural lactose, and any cows milk is going to have a similar sugar level.
Unless you're trying to avoid all sugar, I'm not seeing a problem with these.
I just try to minimize my processed food and hit my macro targets, and things like sodium and sugar tend to take care of themselves.
Man, I wish there was a "like" button on this website.0 -
I learned a lot when I had gestational diabetes. Added sugar should be avoided but natural sugars, eaten in moderation are not bad for us. For instance, a small banana had my max carb/sugars that I could have in a meal so if I was to eat said banana, I had to be sure that was going to keep me full until I was able to eat again. It did not so I chose not to eat banana's but instead get my carbs/sugars from somewhere else. And I had to actually eat carbs with every meal/snack that I had. It is not recommended to cut them out completely, just to limit them. I hated that diet but actually came out of my pregnancy 17 pounds lighter than I started and had an 8 pound 9 ounce baby.
I am actually thinking about following my diabetic diet even though the diabetes did not carry over PP.0 -
Are you diabetic? Just curious as to why you seem to be concerned about sugar? From a weight perspective it's not really a concern it's calories in vs. calories out. Nothing wrong with carbs either. Don't let the food nazi's scare you
It's not being a "food nazi" to recognize that not everyone is the same. High carbs and sugars can be problematic for some people and those people may benefit by eating slightly more healthy protein and fat. To say sugar is only a concern if one is diabetic is completely false, imo. Sorry, but it's not just calories in and calories out for EVERYONE.
yes, your body is magically different from everyone elses. biochemistry must not apply to you
awesome
exactly my thoughts... 0 -
I think it's fair to say when someone responds to a thread on with general diet advice, unless otherwise stated, they are taking to the general population and not to those with specific allergies/diseases/conditions etc
It would be pretty difficult to craft every single post to account for every single possible dietry condition, I don't know why people always feel the need to chime in with "but but but I have ___ I'm allergic to ____ so I'm different etc", you are in the minority, most likely the post was not referring to you in the first place. Also the fact you can't eat _______ has nothing to with cals in v cals out.
If you talking about the basic mechanics of fat loss/fat gain and thermodynamics then yes, [again, outside of diagnosed medical conditions] we are all the same
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