Is Insanity a "shortcut"?
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My husband used a combination of the P90X menu and the Insanity programs along with other basic exercises he could do around the house to get into shape to be able to make it in the Amry OCS Program.
It worked great. He lost weight and got into shape. Once he hit where he wanted to be at physically, he stopped using the programs and now just maintains his own workout program. He is still in shape and has only gained back some of the weight (he tends to like his food...) but is still in much better shape than he was before.0 -
Insanity is hard on your knees.
I do not think it is a "quick fix" You aren't going to do Insanity and all of a sudden have a great body or lose a lot of weight. You have to be eating right at the same time and then continue to exercise.
I dont think there are any shortcuts, and I dont really think your friend knows what she is talking about.
I did insanity. It was a bit hard on my knees, so I wont be doing it agian although I may add some of the workouts in with my P90x cardio days.
agreed. I've done P90X and currently doing TapoutXT and trust me...these programs aren't not shortcuts. you work you *kitten* off...PERIOD!!0 -
It's a lot of high impact stuff. For a smaller person I wouldn't think it would be so bad, but for my fat *kitten* and with my bum ankle, I had to quit after day 2.
Modify the exercises to suit your level of fitness and before you know it you'll be able to do the program!!!0 -
If it is, it doesn't matter to me, MY JOINTS & KNEES WERE HURTING BEFORE I EVEN STARTING DOING IT!!!! I agree, you will get this with any exercise program. I wasn't in my best shape when I started doing Insanity, but I am now and I'm NOW in the process of doing both Insanity and Insanity Asylum together (monthly) Not bad for 50 (in 4 months, 20 days) You should just start out slow and work your way up.
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Personally I feel any program that attaches a timeframe to your results is bad because it promotes impatience. Also, programs such as those by Beachbody, Jillian Michaels, and others promote ignorance. If it weren't for them you would have to actually LEARN about these things yourself to be able to do it right (and you could do it better if you did). I know. Horrible, people should have to learn about how their bodies work in pertaining to fitness and nutrition, right?0
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Insanity is anything but a shortcut. I've done it twice and it has helped me tremendously w/ endurance and strength. Most people who didn't workout before Insanity will continue to workout after Insanity whether its another round of Insanity or another type of workout. Any fitness program should be an overall lifestyle change regardless of what it is. I have never heard of anyone dropping tons of weight really fast w/ Insanity and it is not designed to be that type of program. Insanity can put pressure on your joints but so can any exercise if done frequently over a long period of time. Your friend has no real basis for her argument. There are lots of diets that can be considered "quick fixes" but a 60 day exercise program does not fit that description.0
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I do P90X along with jogging 3 times a week and my knees and joints hurt...well maybe because I played basketball a lot in my younger years and the fact that i'm 43! LOL I haven't done Insanity "yet"...but plan to try it. People can go at there own pace when exercising like that,, I had to sometimes with P90X. Maybe some people should slow up a little if there joints are bothering them. This is an interesting topic none the less.0
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I think its not a short cut, its not easy and its not a way to lose a ton of weight! Most who have graduated a round, don't see dramatic weight loss, but increased endurance and strength, and see less body fat, as it is used by the surrounding muscles to feed itself for the workouts, which are intense and varied. Any high impact has repurcussions, and those with weakness in those areas are recommended to see a doctor first. That being said, I loved Insanity, and will be doing it again, but again, i am already at a point where i am fit, and am looking at improving the composition of my body and increasing strength and definition, not losing weight. i also have thru the whole workout program, you are told to go your own pace, and rest when you need it. i think based on my experience with it, anyone can do it, modify what they need and jsut push as hard as they can. Anything, if you are putting in max effort will give results, and this gives results...
Not all people want to stay on a grassy, unchallenged path to being fit. We tend to get to a point where we have to challenge ourselves to see changes, and see our goals change as we grow and challenge ourselves. i may have started off, walking most days, and starting adding in jogging, but i will always, always always, have a program in conjunction with that that incorporates changing it up, and making my body respond to changing workouts!
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Im not sure about it being a short cut. I'm doing insanity and my endurance and general fitness is so much better. I tried a JM dvd the other day because i thought id try something different and had to stop as it wasnt pushing me enough. Insanity is making me run better and i think i will always use the dvds to get a good workout in. I havent lost a ton of weight but my body has changed weight and im down a dress size, so result!0
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It is certainly NO shortcut. I'm in month 2 of insanity now. I haven't been on a scale in a few weeks, but the last time I stepped on one I was down 16 pounds, and I am positive i have lost more. But it is so much more than that. My endurance is way up (on an off day i went for a run...i never run...and was able to do 4 miles in 38 minutes), I am much stronger today, than i was when I started the program, there is visible muscle definition on my legs, chest, arms, and my back. I am even starting to see some abs. I call it my 2 pack.
What insanity is however is addicting. The workouts are very hard, very demanding, and at times can be grueling. But the sense of accomplishment I have when i finsih a work out, and do better than i did just 2 days before is unmatched. I can't begin to tell you how proud I am of myself at the end of each DVD. And it is that feeling, and the fact that even though the workouts are hard, they are fun, that is what keeps me coming back for more.
Yes it is high impact, yes if you don't have proper form and balance you could really wreck yourself. But 4 years ago i completely shredded my left knee (torn ACL, MCL and a partial tear to my patella tendon) and i have 3 bulging discs in my lower back. Knock on wood, but i havent had any issues. I wear my knee brace, and if something starts to bother my back (some of the ab work does) i modify the move to suit my body's needs.
As far as not being able to sustain and continue with insanity, well i certainly plan on doing the program at least once more, and then my concern is going to be finding something as challenging as these workouts are. because i honestly feel that after completing insanity, i am going to find "going for a run" to be...well boring0 -
It is certainly NO shortcut. I'm in month 2 of insanity now. I haven't been on a scale in a few weeks, but the last time I stepped on one I was down 16 pounds, and I am positive i have lost more. But it is so much more than that. My endurance is way up (on an off day i went for a run...i never run...and was able to do 4 miles in 38 minutes), I am much stronger today, than i was when I started the program, there is visible muscle definition on my legs, chest, arms, and my back. I am even starting to see some abs. I call it my 2 pack.
What insanity is however is addicting. The workouts are very hard, very demanding, and at times can be grueling. But the sense of accomplishment I have when i finsih a work out, and do better than i did just 2 days before is unmatched. I can't begin to tell you how proud I am of myself at the end of each DVD. And it is that feeling, and the fact that even though the workouts are hard, they are fun, that is what keeps me coming back for more.
Yes it is high impact, yes if you don't have proper form and balance you could really wreck yourself. But 4 years ago i completely shredded my left knee (torn ACL, MCL and a partial tear to my patella tendon) and i have 3 bulging discs in my lower back. Knock on wood, but i havent had any issues. I wear my knee brace, and if something starts to bother my back (some of the ab work does) i modify the move to suit my body's needs.
As far as not being able to sustain and continue with insanity, well i certainly plan on doing the program at least once more, and then my concern is going to be finding something as challenging as these workouts are. because i honestly feel that after completing insanity, i am going to find "going for a run" to be...well boring
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!0 -
Personally I feel any program that attaches a timeframe to your results is bad because it promotes impatience. Also, programs such as those by Beachbody, Jillian Michaels, and others promote ignorance. If it weren't for them you would have to actually LEARN about these things yourself to be able to do it right (and you could do it better if you did). I know. Horrible, people should have to learn about how their bodies work in pertaining to fitness and nutrition, right?
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First thing comes to mind for me is it is obvious she hasn't tried it. Just like with any activity you can hurt your joints if you do not do it right. However, if you follow directions and concentrate on landing softly you will NOT hurt your joints any more than going up and down stairs.
To her point about being a shortcut ... the program - in fact every Beachbody program I have done (P90X, Insanity, Insanity : The Asylum, P90X2) - comes with nutrition guide and stresses the lifestyle change - not a shortcut to losing weight.
That being said, I am quite certain there are a lot of people who do the program once and then go back to their previous routine. But, then again, there are a lot of people who join a gym, go for 2-4 months and then stop going. So, by that same logic her gym membership is a shortcut as well, is it not? ;-)0 -
I've given both P90X and Insanity a try and I've noticed that the biggest differences are the length and pacing of the workouts. P90X workouts tend to be longer than Insanity (70 minutes/day vs. 40 minutes/day) but Insanity is a lot faster and more go-go-go! than P90X which encourages going at your pace and taking breaks. I personally prefer P90X and have had good results from it in the past, so I would recommend it to anyone. And for those that are not quite fit enough to keep up with P90X there's the P90 option.
However, with regards to your friend, my instinct is that she is a fitness snob for whom running is the be-all, end-all. Let's face it, many people feel the need to criticize without much information. No form of exercise is a shortcut. It's all about getting moving and up off the couch. Whether it's cross-fit, Insanity or just going taking your dog for a walk. My recommendation is to ignore the nay-sayers, take a look at what works for you and just stick with it.0 -
Insanity definately pushes you to dig deeper and challange yourself. I'm in my 2nd month this week and I do the program with about 5 others I work with and we are all different shapes. We will point out that someone is not squating right, or their butt is in the air while doing pushups. We all look out for each other to ensure we are doing everything in perfect form. Some of the "heavier" people modify some of the moves as well, but they keep moving. Insanity, or any other high impact workout is not a short cut. Diet Pills, Meth, not eating, are examples of short cuts.
I started doing Zumba from April to May, Jillian's 30 DS during the month of June, and I started Insanity at the begining of July and have only lost 10 lbs since April, but a total of 17.5 inches overall. This is not a quick fix.
As for running, I wish I loved to run, but I hate it. To me it's boring. I do know some runners and they experience painful joints, especially when training for a marathon. Anything someone does could cause injury to his/her body, even walking.0 -
I'm not sure how working your *kitten* off, sweating so hard you could cry could be a shortcut!!! A faster way than running on the treadmill day after day, sure...shortcut?? no way!!! You work for it!! IMO if you work hard enough to complete one of these programs, you are NOT going to stop once you get to your goal. These programs are hard, I've done them, and after doing them, I'm in even better shape, nothing would make me go back to my old ways!! As far as the joints, yes it can be harder on your body, but not any harder than anything else anyone that enjoys challenges and working out would do!! If you're starting out heavier, again, it's just like anything else. Running hurts your knees if you're overweight, etc etc. Sounds like an excuse to me. I'm doing it and getting amazing results!!
Could not have said it better!0 -
Insanity is definitely not a short cut. It is HIIT training, maybe military style, and this is always hard on your joints,as any high impact training would be. That's why it is so important to know how to do it correctly. I am on 2nd round, and I do it jointly with p90x and love both of these routines0
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While insanity is definitely tough on the joints...It's no shortcut anymore than going to a cardio class is a shortcut. Now, what you do AFTER you've completed your 60 days is up to you. Some people choose to maintain by doing it a few days a week. Others run, or do start a different fitness program.
Others eat, sleep, and eat ice cream and cake to celebrate and eventually gain it all back.
It's all about maintaining a consistent lifestyle change. Insanity is definitely no push over..it's tougher than some Marine corps workouts that I did back in the days!0 -
I wouldn't call Insanity a short cut by no means. This is a very difficult program and there is nothing about it that would be considered a short cut in my opinion.
I did it twice and decided it wasnt for me because of my foot that I had surgery on. There are a few things that I can not do because of my foot and certainly because of my weight.
I figure I will try it again after losing some more weight and see if it's any better on my foot. But until then I will continue to do what I do now. Which, i admit, is no where near as insense as Insanity.
Kudo's to those of you that can do it!!!!0 -
A shortcut to what? I did Insanity over Christmas/New Year's and didn't lose any weight but my stamina, muscle and general fitness increased massively (and I lost almost 30"). It is a brilliant programme if you want to get FIT. I've incorporated it into my regular routine now and do Insanity workouts mixed with other strength training and cardio throughout the week. They are tough, but the feeling you get when you complete it is definitely amazing.0
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However, with regards to your friend, my instinct is that she is a fitness snob for whom running is the be-all, end-all. Let's face it, many people feel the need to criticize without much information. No form of exercise is a shortcut. It's all about getting moving and up off the couch. Whether it's cross-fit, Insanity or just going taking your dog for a walk. My recommendation is to ignore the nay-sayers, take a look at what works for you and just stick with it.
I can't say I disagree with this, only because I used to think like her, too. Running is NOT the end-all, be-all of fitness. And when you don't have a gym membership and don't want to run outside everyday, these DVDs are the only things that can keep motivation up to work out and get on with your day. But to each their own -- if she doesn't want to try Insanity, at least don't harp on it by calling it a "shortcut" and short-changing the effort that's involved. Not everyone drops a ton of weight doing it, just like with running.0 -
Your friend is wrong.... you don't lose weight quickly while doing Insanity. You actually lose inches and build serious strength and muscle. I can say this because I did it. I only lost around 12lbs. during the time I did it (around 6-7 weeks) but I lost inches like crazy! It is high impact on your knees, so if you have weaker joints (i do, because I'm seriously double jointed) it can be rough on your body. I loved the energy and strength it gave me. I highly recommend it.0
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A shortcut to what? I did Insanity over Christmas/New Year's and didn't lose any weight but my stamina, muscle and general fitness increased massively (and I lost almost 30"). It is a brilliant programme if you want to get FIT. I've incorporated it into my regular routine now and do Insanity workouts mixed with other strength training and cardio throughout the week. They are tough, but the feeling you get when you complete it is definitely amazing.
Completely agree... the stamina you create is amazing... now I wanna go pop in a DVD!0 -
I think Insanity is like any exercise program you get out what you put in. If you feel pain in a joint...that isn't normal quit it and seek a doctors opinion. Just because Arnold could bench 300 pounds doesn't mean I could too...I have my limitations. My knees are wore out from being fat and working on my feet for 30+ years. Do what you can with what you have.0
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I have done Insanity in the past and just recently started another round. I also go to the gym and run here and there. Insanity is hard on the tendons and joints. Any fitness regimen increases your chance of injuries. I can't even count how many people get injured from weights and running. At the end of the day it's about knowing your limits and being safe. When doing Insanity I put about 2 inches of padding under the carpet to ease the impact. I know alot of runners (friends) who brag about their fitness. When I ask them to try Insanity for a week..Their eyes are open because they realize that is an area where improvement is needed.
No way in the world it is a short cut because it requires commitment and dedication to complete the 60 days :-).
The program is only 60 Days but it mixes well if you drop it to 2-3 days per week in addition to weight training.0 -
Just a statistic about running, its one of only a few sports with an almost 100% injury rate... Meaning almost everyone that runs, will get injured due to running.
Not all fitness programs fit each person, but not many boast such a high injury rate either, and i am pretty confident that Insanitys not that high a rate, or anywhere near!0 -
People are going to either hate it or love it and everyone will have an opinion about it, Insanity. I have done both of the Insanity programs 3 times each. I did not have any weight to lose when I started and basically tried it out because of some personal stuff I had going on at the time. I needed a way to get out of my head and heal. Insanity more than delivered. I liked it so much that after the first time I waited a week and did it all over again this time prepping for the Asylum which is hands down my favorite workout ever!
I am not a professional in the exercise industry, I'm not a trainer, I'm not a Beachbody coach, none of that, but I've been known to push Insanity off on anyone who is willing to give it a try, and always tell them to modify every move that you cannot do, wear the best shoes that you can find, use the power mat if you have a wood floor, eat right, grab a recovery drink of some kind and feed your muscles and just try it and see how you like it, because it not only trains your body it gets inside of your head and trains your mind, and I think that if you don't completely have your mind right you're bound to repeat the same mistakes over and over again no matter what they are, weight loss or not. When your mind is right and you're on track and focusing everything else changes and just seems to fall into place.
So far Insanity and the Asylum are the only two workouts that I've used that have gotten inside of my head and made me a better person at LIFE. Sometimes I think I used Shaun T as a counselor lol because I refused to go to a shrink. I wasn't crazy I just happened to lose someone in a motorcycle accident want to give it a shot and yeah it was hard as hell and I was in shape and still modified the power jumps and took a few little breaks here and there to catch my breath in the beginning, but the more you do it the better at it you get and your cardiovascular levels increase and it becomes easier each time. Unfortunately most people don't make it that far or give it a chance and then Insanity gets a bad rap because all these people are talking negatively about it. Not that you or your friend are doing that, I'm just saying in general.0 -
Believe it or not there is a way to land softly when doing certain moves. I never believed that until one day I actually started doing it and my knees no longer hurt because I had somehow learned to do the power jumps correctly.
I know people who have done Insanity and have modified every single exercise in the entire program with no jumping jacks, no power jumps, no v pushups, no suicides or do them at a slower pace, and the other things that were too hard for them, just so that they could hang out with Shaun T every day and get that vibe the he sends out. He's a powerful guy and he's very motivating, very motivating.
BUT, as much as I fricking love Insanity and refuse to stop doing it lol, I am sure that further on down the line I may or may not, end up with stiff joints. I do not say this to be rude at all so I hope no one takes this the wrong way. I'm 5'8 and at the time I did Insanity I weighed around 140 pounds and I had to modify the Power jumps because why? They killed my fricking right knee which is bad already. So if someone was to use Insanity at a heavier weight, someone who is overweight I suppose I can totally see how it would mess their joints up even the ones in your wrists from putting a lot of weight on them doing push ups etc so maybe try Insanity after you've lost a little weight?...0 -
IMO, this is the whole reason why EVERY single program says "Do not start any exercise program without consulting your Dr."
We are all different! Some may be at risk of joint pain, etc. but her opinion is just that!0 -
Insanity, or any other high impact workout is not a short cut. Diet Pills, Meth, not eating, are examples of short cuts.
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