A calorie is NOT a calorie
ItsLessOfMe
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I finally found an article that states what I have found to be true after 6 months of eating clean!!! It does matter what you eat. Check it out:
http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/eating-more-does-not-cause-long-term-fat-gain/
http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/eating-more-does-not-cause-long-term-fat-gain/
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Do you have a copy of the book?0
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No, just found the article. Have you heard of this before?0
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Finally someone who understands! Woohoo!0
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Good book, the podcast is worth a listen from Episode 1.
http://thesmarterscienceofslim.com/jonathan-bailors-smarter-science-of-slim-podcast/
You don't have to convince me a calorie isn't just a calorie
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No, just found the article. Have you heard of this before?
Haven't read it, but I'd love to read it. I've constantly wondered why some people like myself can eat anything I want to and not gain much weight. I'd love to learn and understand the mechanism behind this phenomena.0 -
No, just found the article. Have you heard of this before?
Haven't read it, but I'd love to read it. I've constantly wondered why some people like myself can eat anything I want to and not gain much weight. I'd love to learn and understand the mechanism behind this phenomena.
Me too!!! I'm just so excited. Its working so great for me I stopped logging my food. Six months ago when I posted about this I got a calorie is a calorie, the twinkie diet blah blah blah.
I'm excited about the book0 -
What does that article have to do with 'clean' eating?0
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What does that article have to do with 'clean' eating?
Clean eating is quality food. The article mentions low quality food etc leading to fat storage. I think I equate high quality food to non processed. But I would get the book to make sure0 -
I am in the mentality that what ever work for you.
I'd rather eat dirty.....my results are not too shabby0 -
I am in the mentality that what ever work for you.
I'd rather eat dirty.....my results are not too shabby
Definetly to each his/her own. I just LOVE clean eating and how my body is responding. I'm not doing too bad myself. And I love it0 -
Interesting article.0
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What does that article have to do with 'clean' eating?
Clean eating is quality food. The article mentions low quality food etc leading to fat storage. I think I equate high quality food to non processed. But I would get the book to make sure
The issue is - what is clean and what is processed. You are forcing your interpretation on it. You should get the book and double check what they were actually eating as well as the macro composition.
Is milk processed? Is cheese processed? Is bread processed? Is a fruit salad processed? and on and on and on.0 -
I don't see how this article relates to a calorie is calorie. From what I understand, the calories were burned off by increasing the amount of calories burned daily. Well, logically, no, you wouldn't gain weight from that. "Increase the amount of calories burned digesting food" not sure exactly what that means other than maybe eating things like celery that actually takes more calories to chew it than it takes in? Increasing the amounts of calories burned via unconscious activities.
This all sounds like calories in vs calories out to me. So in other-words a calorie is a calorie.
I can see that you might not gain as much if you did eat clean however. All the preservatives and other crap in the unhealthy foods will do that. But I don't see how that applies to calories itself since the article basically SEEMS to state to me that they are burning more calories than they eat or at least almost as much, which would result in the results they get. O.o0 -
What does that article have to do with 'clean' eating?
Clean eating is quality food. The article mentions low quality food etc leading to fat storage. I think I equate high quality food to non processed. But I would get the book to make sure
The issue is - what is clean and what is processed. You are forcing your interpretation on it. You should get the book and double check what they were actually eating as well as the macro composition.
Is milk processed? Is cheese processed? Is bread processed? Is a fruit salad processed? and on and on and on.
People ALL have a different view of what is "clean to them" And I do want to look into this more. I was just sharing it because it is exciting, that's all. And I'm living it. I've lost 10 lbs now by just eating (my version of) clean and listening to my body. I eat as much as I want. No junk food. Its just exciting thats all. I'm not forcing this on ANYONE0 -
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<This is what eating clean has done for me. According to the date I was born, I am supposed to be 44.
I do not eat clean so I can be skinny. I eat clean because I look better, I feel better and according to my doctor, I am WAY better as far as my health goes.
To each his own and if a person wants to eat "dirty" that is his or her prerogative, but I am living proof that eating clean and what you want works. Period.0 -
What does that article have to do with 'clean' eating?
Clean eating is quality food. The article mentions low quality food etc leading to fat storage. I think I equate high quality food to non processed. But I would get the book to make sure
The issue is - what is clean and what is processed. You are forcing your interpretation on it. You should get the book and double check what they were actually eating as well as the macro composition.
Is milk processed? Is cheese processed? Is bread processed? Is a fruit salad processed? and on and on and on.
People ALL have a different view of what is "clean to them" And I do want to look into this more. I was just sharing it because it is exciting, that's all. And I'm living it. I've lost 10 lbs now by just eating (my version of) clean and listening to my body. I eat as much as I want. No junk food. Its just exciting thats all. I'm not forcing this on ANYONE
I congratulate you on losing the weight but you are missing my point. You state that the article proves that eating clean is why you have lost the weight. I am asking questions as, the article does not have enough information for that claim to be made.0 -
What does that article have to do with 'clean' eating?
Clean eating is quality food. The article mentions low quality food etc leading to fat storage. I think I equate high quality food to non processed. But I would get the book to make sure
The issue is - what is clean and what is processed. You are forcing your interpretation on it. You should get the book and double check what they were actually eating as well as the macro composition.
Is milk processed? Is cheese processed? Is bread processed? Is a fruit salad processed? and on and on and on.
People ALL have a different view of what is "clean to them" And I do want to look into this more. I was just sharing it because it is exciting, that's all. And I'm living it. I've lost 10 lbs now by just eating (my version of) clean and listening to my body. I eat as much as I want. No junk food. Its just exciting thats all. I'm not forcing this on ANYONE
I congratulate you on losing the weight but you are missing my point. You state that the article proves that eating clean is why you have lost the weight. I am asking questions as, the article does not have enough information for that claim to be made.
I think my point is just its the first article I've seen that has addressed it. And I'm excited to look into it further. And its nice to see that others find it interesting too. The whole quality foods. Its worth exploring especially since they have a Mayo Clinic study. That has a great reputation. Its great to see research being done in that area
Also I know clean eating is NOT why I lost weight I lost over 50 lbs eating CRAP. I have a new lifestyle that I love is all0 -
You're totally right. Pizza and chocolate calories are more delicious than other calories.0
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Our body processes certain foods differently, why do people constantly want to debate that. You may lose weight eating junk food, but you may not be doing anything to improve your health. Thin does not automatically equal healthy. And for some people certain foods may inhibit weight loss.
If you can eat whatever you want and avoid diabetes, heart disease, insulin resistance, high blood pressure and cholesterol, good for you but not everyone can. Whether you practice clean eating or not, healthy eating habits should be encouraged, especially on a fitness sight.0 -
bumping so i can read later.. very interesting stuff0
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So you've been searching for articles that agree with you for some time and you've only been able to find ONE, but this is somehow validating to you?I think my point is just its the first article I've seen that has addressed it. And I'm excited to look into it further. And its nice to see that others find it interesting too. The whole quality foods. Its worth exploring especially since they have a Mayo Clinic study. That has a great reputation. Its great to see research being done in that area
Also, I think you mean, "A calorie is not JUST a calorie". That's an entirely different statement than what you said.0 -
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Our body processes certain foods differently, why do people constantly want to debate that. You may lose weight eating junk food, but you may not be doing anything to improve your health. Thin does not automatically equal healthy. And for some people certain foods may inhibit weight loss.
If you can eat whatever you want and avoid diabetes, heart disease, insulin resistance, high blood pressure and cholesterol, good for you but not everyone can. Whether you practice clean eating or not, healthy eating habits should be encouraged, especially on a fitness sight.
How does this relate to the OPs initial claim?0 -
Our body processes certain foods differently, why do people constantly want to debate that. You may lose weight eating junk food, but you may not be doing anything to improve your health. Thin does not automatically equal healthy. And for some people certain foods may inhibit weight loss.
If you can eat whatever you want and avoid diabetes, heart disease, insulin resistance, high blood pressure and cholesterol, good for you but not everyone can. Whether you practice clean eating or not, healthy eating habits should be encouraged, especially on a fitness sight.
How does this relate to the OPs initial claim?
Her claim is that the quality of the calories matter, so I find my post to be valid. Anytime this point is made you see a flood of comments from people who say they eat pizza and ice cream and lose weight, as if that is a badge of honor on a health and fitness site. I lost weight that way too on weight watchers staying within my points, but it certainly did nothing to help my PCOS until I adopted healthier habits. My husband, a former athlete who works out 5 times a week and is in great shape and ate whatever he wanted without gaining, now has high blood pressure. I do understand we don't all have the same goals, some people want to lose weight, some people want to get healthy, some people want to lose weight and get healthy. I don't see why the latter is so hard for some to fathom.0 -
Our body processes certain foods differently, why do people constantly want to debate that. You may lose weight eating junk food, but you may not be doing anything to improve your health. Thin does not automatically equal healthy. And for some people certain foods may inhibit weight loss.
If you can eat whatever you want and avoid diabetes, heart disease, insulin resistance, high blood pressure and cholesterol, good for you but not everyone can. Whether you practice clean eating or not, healthy eating habits should be encouraged, especially on a fitness sight.
How does this relate to the OPs initial claim?
Her claim is that the quality of the calories matter, so I find my post to be valid. Anytime this point is made you see a flood of comments from people who say they eat pizza and ice cream and lose weight, as if that is a badge of honor on a health and fitness site. I lost weight that way too on weight watchers staying within my points, but it certainly did nothing to help my PCOS until I adopted healthier habits. My husband, a former athlete who works out 5 times a week and is in great shape and ate whatever he wanted without gaining, now has high blood pressure. I do understand we don't all have the same goals, some people want to lose weight, some people want to get healthy, some people want to lose weight and get healthy. I don't see why the latter is so hard for some to fathom.
The OPs post was that she had found an article that 'proved' that eating clean caused her weight loss - but that article actually did no such thing,
I am not, saying and have not, said that you should not have a balanced diet (what I mean by that is a decent amount of nutrient rich food). But I still fail to see the relevency to the actual article and the claim being made. Also, you seem to think that eating ice cream means that you cannot have a 'healthy diet'. You can, and I do not see what is hard to fathom about that.0 -
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Our body processes certain foods differently, why do people constantly want to debate that. You may lose weight eating junk food, but you may not be doing anything to improve your health. Thin does not automatically equal healthy. And for some people certain foods may inhibit weight loss.
If you can eat whatever you want and avoid diabetes, heart disease, insulin resistance, high blood pressure and cholesterol, good for you but not everyone can. Whether you practice clean eating or not, healthy eating habits should be encouraged, especially on a fitness sight.
I think whatever is sustainable is worth promoting. I don't eat clean all the time as I enjoy treat foods but in order to lose weight and feel satisfied one has to be eating a balanced diet. There's no harm to your body in enjoying the odd treat. I know I'm eating way better than I used to and most importantly, because I allow myself the treats, it's something I can stick to which ultimately has to be better for my overall health. Do what fits with your life, there's no one right way for all.0 -
Our body processes certain foods differently, why do people constantly want to debate that. You may lose weight eating junk food, but you may not be doing anything to improve your health. Thin does not automatically equal healthy. And for some people certain foods may inhibit weight loss.
If you can eat whatever you want and avoid diabetes, heart disease, insulin resistance, high blood pressure and cholesterol, good for you but not everyone can. Whether you practice clean eating or not, healthy eating habits should be encouraged, especially on a fitness sight.
How does this relate to the OPs initial claim?
Her claim is that the quality of the calories matter, so I find my post to be valid. Anytime this point is made you see a flood of comments from people who say they eat pizza and ice cream and lose weight, as if that is a badge of honor on a health and fitness site. I lost weight that way too on weight watchers staying within my points, but it certainly did nothing to help my PCOS until I adopted healthier habits. My husband, a former athlete who works out 5 times a week and is in great shape and ate whatever he wanted without gaining, now has high blood pressure. I do understand we don't all have the same goals, some people want to lose weight, some people want to get healthy, some people want to lose weight and get healthy. I don't see why the latter is so hard for some to fathom.
The OPs post was that she had found an article that 'proved' that eating clean caused her weight loss - but that article actually did no such thing,
I am not, saying and have not, said that you should not have a balanced diet (what I mean by that is a decent amount of nutrient rich food). But I still fail to see the relevency to the actual article and the claim being made. Also, you seem to think that eating ice cream means that you cannot have a 'healthy diet'. You can, and I do not see what is hard to fathom about that.
Ice cream or anything in moderation can be part of a healthy diet, but when posters make an effort of writing a post to debunk clean eating talking about all the ice cream and pizza they eat and that what you eat doesn't matter as long as you are under your calorie goal, in my opinion that is not promoting a healthy diet. I'm no eat clean purist, but I do recognize the affects sugar has on my body and others. When I have it, I want more and more of it. When I don't have it, I don't really miss it. Protein certainly doesn't have that affect on me. Never had a burger and was fiending for burgers for days and days. So my point was just that I find posters go out of their way to criticize clean eating or calorie is not a calorie comments by saying they eat whatever.0 -
So you've been searching for articles that agree with you for some time and you've only been able to find ONE, but this is somehow validating to you?I think my point is just its the first article I've seen that has addressed it. And I'm excited to look into it further. And its nice to see that others find it interesting too. The whole quality foods. Its worth exploring especially since they have a Mayo Clinic study. That has a great reputation. Its great to see research being done in that area
Also, I think you mean, "A calorie is not JUST a calorie". That's an entirely different statement than what you said.
Seems that the actual statement is even less exciting than that. It should be something like: "Food is not just calories".
Things you eat contribute to both sides of the calorie equation. Some foods result in a higher DIT/TEF than others, but that doesn't invalidate the calories in vs. calories out model.0
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