Do you CrossFit?
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Walk into a crossfit and you'll see bad form and a coach with-in 10 feet. I'm not saying all crossfitters have bad form, but since every box i've been to has a coach present he/she should be correcting that.
No argument here. If you dont know better and your paying for the coaching, then absolutely.
The community is a great aspect of it, meeting good people to workout with and suffer with is always fun and motivating. To that though with any group the bad apples always stand out and are more pronounced and ruin it for the whole. Sometimes people choose not to see past that.
Jack of all, master of none. Do I care if my Deadlift gets to 700 or evan 500? nope not my cup of tea. but at the same time I would rather have a set program to work up my pushes and pulls then just randomly hoping for it. evan with a planed program, you can still fit in WODs to keep other things maintained.0 -
I used to do crossfit style workouts at home. I like the variety and being able to push myself. I have however always been strict with form. Form>weight>speed. I can see how in a crossfit style workout some people may break this equation to achieve better times etc.
I have never been to a box so can't comment on their offerings, but I figure if you can't push yourself then you are not ready to train anyway. I didn't like the WODs using a certain weight across the board (I know scaling etc but the WOD RX'd) weights should be set individually.
I have stopped crossfit training and started on stronglifts5x5. Pure lab rat at the moment to see how it goes. So far I like that I know what my lifts are for each weight and can see consistent progress. I also like that recovery times are much quicker, no soreness after at all. No exhauting "i'm gonna spew" workouts. This does not mean that I am not working hard. Just working differently.
Will I go back to crossfit style WODs. I will let you know, but it is not looking likely.0 -
Ah, CrossFit...where you too can pay 200$/month to feel superior while training to be mediocre.
mediocre? hmmm?
Yes mediocre. Ever heard of the saying "fail to plan; plan to fail" Well one of CrossFits main points is there is no Periodization, "specialization if for the insects"... no plan just to do the WOD each day and, I don't remember exactly what Glassman said but, soon have something along the lines of a 4 minute mile and a 700 pound deadlift. (which no one has achieved)
If you are using Periodization you aren't doing cross fit.
This bothered me a lot when I checked out crossfit...there was no structure, you might work the same muscle groups multiples days in a row, and the trainers in the 4 boxes I saw either promoted or ignored bad form. It was a total recipe for injury. I think CrossFit is ok for people who just want to get in better shape, if they can afford it, and if they find a box that has qualified trainers that don't promote unsafe lifting (or cram the paleo diet down your throat). However, if you are training for anything specific, spend your money on a qualified coach or trainer instead.
There are good boxes and bad ones. At our box we have to work with a trainer for a month one on one and then test out of different levels before we are a loud to lift certain weights. Each time you go you are in a structured class limited to 20 people. You ARE coached.
There are plenty of our members who don't eat paleo or zone and that's ok too.
Too bad you have such a soar taste about CrossFit.0 -
Ah, CrossFit...where you too can pay 200$/month to feel superior while training to be mediocre.
mediocre? hmmm?
Yes mediocre. Ever heard of the saying "fail to plan; plan to fail" Well one of CrossFits main points is there is no Periodization, "specialization if for the insects"... no plan just to do the WOD each day and, I don't remember exactly what Glassman said but, soon have something along the lines of a 4 minute mile and a 700 pound deadlift. (which no one has achieved)
If you are using Periodization you aren't doing cross fit.
This bothered me a lot when I checked out crossfit...there was no structure, you might work the same muscle groups multiples days in a row, and the trainers in the 4 boxes I saw either promoted or ignored bad form. It was a total recipe for injury. I think CrossFit is ok for people who just want to get in better shape, if they can afford it, and if they find a box that has qualified trainers that don't promote unsafe lifting (or cram the paleo diet down your throat). However, if you are training for anything specific, spend your money on a qualified coach or trainer instead.
There are good boxes and bad ones. At our box we have to work with a trainer for a month one on one and then test out of different levels before we are a loud to lift certain weights. Each time you go you are in a structured class limited to 20 people. You ARE coached.
There are plenty of our members who don't eat paleo or zone and that's ok too.
Too bad you have such a soar taste about CrossFit.
You are right, there are good ones and bad ones, we all agree on that. I think the main gripe is since someone is paying a premium price then all the boxes should come with a premium service.
That is the problem with the fitness community, ever since Nautilus made his machines there was a market to make money, and a lot of it. I fear that some box owners may have fallen to this same issue, and that could be why some boxes are ruining crossfit's image.
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Ah, CrossFit...where you too can pay 200$/month to feel superior while training to be mediocre.
mediocre? hmmm?
Yes mediocre. Ever heard of the saying "fail to plan; plan to fail" Well one of CrossFits main points is there is no Periodization, "specialization if for the insects"... no plan just to do the WOD each day and, I don't remember exactly what Glassman said but, soon have something along the lines of a 4 minute mile and a 700 pound deadlift. (which no one has achieved)
If you are using Periodization you aren't doing cross fit.
This bothered me a lot when I checked out crossfit...there was no structure, you might work the same muscle groups multiples days in a row, and the trainers in the 4 boxes I saw either promoted or ignored bad form. It was a total recipe for injury. I think CrossFit is ok for people who just want to get in better shape, if they can afford it, and if they find a box that has qualified trainers that don't promote unsafe lifting (or cram the paleo diet down your throat). However, if you are training for anything specific, spend your money on a qualified coach or trainer instead.
There are good boxes and bad ones. At our box we have to work with a trainer for a month one on one and then test out of different levels before we are a loud to lift certain weights. Each time you go you are in a structured class limited to 20 people. You ARE coached.
There are plenty of our members who don't eat paleo or zone and that's ok too.
Too bad you have such a soar taste about CrossFit.
You are right, there are good ones and bad ones, we all agree on that. I think the main gripe is since someone is paying a premium price then all the boxes should come with a premium service.
That is the problem with the fitness community, ever since Nautilus made his machines there was a market to make money, and a lot of it. I fear that some box owners may have fallen to this same issue, and that could be why some boxes are ruining crossfit's image.
Again just my 2¢
Agree
I guess I should feel pretty lucky we've got such a good crew. They truly are all about helping people get better and better... everyday.0 -
Will I go back to crossfit style WODs. I will let you know, but it is not looking likely.
Call it a hunch, but you will wonder your way there every once in a while, maybe not till after your first 3 months on strong lifts... but you will find your way back some0 -
I've been doing Crossfit for about five months, and I love it! the lifting style is different from what I learned at the gym... but that doesn't make it unsafe. The box I go to has some great trainers who do correct your form and watch us pretty closely (especially the new folks). I think a lot of people get over-zealous and try to lift more weight than they should. I always make sure to listen to my body and scale movements if I need to. I love Crossfit and it is absolutely worth the $100/month to me.
Crossfit isn't for everyone, and it isn't the only way to get in shape... but if you try it and like it, get ready to drink the kool-aid!0 -
I did realize this morning that I don't miss the constant collarbone bruises I use to have from barbell cleans
I do like non-standard workouts and the good thing is that the popularity of Crossfit and other similar programs has started to leak into the traditional gym space. And I wouldn't be opposed to doing Crossfit workouts at home, not under time although the doing the WOD under time is addicting but also I don't think certain movements should be done under a time limit.0 -
i totally get the critisism of crossfit, but really-any individual who looks at 195# and goes "i dont know....ive never done overhead press with more than 85#...." and then TRIES TO PICK IT UP OVER THEIR HEAD ANYWAY is just asking for it. i know "create your limits" is the whole point, but any smart individual is going to know that getting seriously hurt trying to do something well out of their skill level is not intelligent. i dont care how many people around me are clawing at a bar trying to do a clean-if i cant get it within a few attempts im taking weight off.
and anybody doing pushups that make you look like youre doing the worm....just....stop. really.0 -
i totally get the critisism of crossfit, but really-any individual who looks at 195# and goes "i dont know....ive never done overhead press with more than 85#...." and then TRIES TO PICK IT UP OVER THEIR HEAD ANYWAY is just asking for it. i know "create your limits" is the whole point, but any smart individual is going to know that getting seriously hurt trying to do something well out of their skill level is not intelligent. i dont care how many people around me are clawing at a bar trying to do a clean-if i cant get it within a few attempts im taking weight off.
and anybody doing pushups that make you look like youre doing the worm....just....stop. really.
I usually give myself two tries when going for super heavy weight, If I can't get to to move correctly in those 2 tries it doesn't get moved.0 -
Periodization I totalyy disagree with. I believe you should 'train' be ready for anything.
You can.
In a periodized manner. The lack of a plan doesn't make you ready for anything, it just means you lack a plan and likely aren't going to be very successful at achieving anything.
Limit strength, strength endurance, cardio endurance, power, flexibility, and balanced can all be trained simultaneously and efficiently in a planned out and deliberate manner.
And LOL @ kipping pullups, what on earth is the point of those, especially those silly shoulder breakers that Crossfitters do for speed. Its sad that Crossfit has taken the name of the most bad*** pullup in existence and turned it into their silly kipping crap. A butterfly pullup is a straight arm iron cross pullup on rings. One of the most insanely hard things that the human body is capable of doing. Not the silly shoulder destroying speed kip things that Crossfitters do. To do a real butterfly pullup takes years of dedication and a very specific plan to get there; no planless hodgepodge of training will even get you close.0 -
Whoa... sure didn't want to debate about CrossFit... just wanting to know... 'Do you CrossFit?'
Again I am lucky to have a great CrossFIt family!
Good luck with your workouts!0 -
I love crossfit too! I dont really do it right now because I am away from my home box at grad school and the price here is redic. but i was only paying 30$ a month at the one back home! I do pullups every day and try to get in a good crossfit wod about 3 times a week!0
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Lol to be fair Some of those funy gifs are taken from a YouTube vid by some guy deliberately mocking crossfit, not actually from any crossfit gym.
Crossfit has managed to get a lot of people who would never normally think about weight training (soccer moms/young kids whatever) off the couch and into a gym and you have to salute them for that. However some of the stuff that goes on is borderline idiotic/dangerous.
Periodisation is tHe absolute foundation of weightlifting/getting stronger. I'm not sure how anyone can 'disagree' with it.0 -
Wow, so much negativity about CrossFit is a generalization. There are good boxes and bad boxes. I went to a bad box, and didn't look into it again after my first visit for another few months. Then tried a new box and loved it. The coaches are great, they emphasize form above everything else and you'll be stuck using PVC pipes or light barbells for awhile before they ever let you put weight on it. The WOD's are planned out so you're not using the same muscle group over and over in a row. The classes are kept at around 8 people so the coach can watch everyone's form. If form starts to suffer because you're pushing yourself too hard or tiring out, they'll call your name and tell you that. They'd rather you go slow, do less reps and have proper form then try for some personal record.
I've been doing it 4 months and I absolutely adore it and the community. I never get bored because each time I go it's something different, whereas at the regular gym, even working with a trainer it was the same thing over and over. It's not for everybody, but if anyone is thinking about trying it then try it and decide for yourself. I honestly was a lazy work out type person so I am amazed at how much I ended up loving it. My body is completely transforming and I am so much stronger and my endurance is 3x what it used to be which I notice now on my weekly hikes.0
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