Does a higher heart rate mean more fat burn?
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Thank you, and darn lol, I was just wondering if there was a conection, cause when I try to lose weight it really does just melt off so I wondered if that was why,
it wasn't just one doc it was a couple differenct docs and after doing a battery of tests they came to the conclution that my heart rate is just high, I read up a little about it, and found there are others that have just as high as me, and their docs cantt find anything wrong with them, so I duno
In that case, I'm sure the high HR is just indicative of other systemic differences like higher resting metabolism. That's the body's ability to fidget and doing little movements.
Much like too much caffeine can cause.
Now, you'll have excellent barometer if you start eating too low - because the body stopping the fidgeting is the first thing the body stops doing if getting too little calories. Several studies have shown that.
And you frankly don't want to lose that high RMR you must have, of which higher RHR is part of it.
What are you saying I will benifite if I run on lower cals? I really do have a energry problem, for intance I need to sleep but I can't its really freaking fustrating0 -
No, it does not necessarily mean that you burn more calories. When people are doing strenuous workouts-- one way to see where your body is with respect to recovery -- is how in line your HR when you wake up is...
For example - I have a resting heart rate of 56. If my resting HR is in the mid to high 60s, it's a sign that my body is still working overtime to recover, which means that you're burning more residual calories.
However, when you're talking close to 200 -- it's a different ball game. When I do hill repeats on my bike or quarters around the track, my HR might find its way into the high 170s.
I agree with the others-- see a cardiologist.
Well thank you fo being the only one to specifiacally answering my question, yea I think it would be smart to get checked YET AGAIN for like the fifth time, with a specalist any way, it's not always at that high, it will sometime be at 74, right now it was 84, but ocasionally I will check it and it will be at around 200. and my legs will be bouncing up and down from my enegry, soo I duno, my husband is supper lean and fit and he will get a high heart rate to, and with what all the docs said I'm not to scared, I mean they did all the heart tests with all those mechines, and the blood tests, they literally did everything, and everything came out great, but just to be on the safe side I will check with a cardioligist
No.If you went to a GP they did not do "everything". You did not get a Holter, for example (24 hr, ECG). They probably did do a good job of the basic cardio exams but a high to very high resting heart rate is reason to look further for underlying issues - See a cardiologist. You might end up getting not only a holter but a scan.
What level of activity do you have?
The fat burn calculation (the better one) is based on the VO² Max - VO² Max can be estimated from Max HR, a high HR might not mean you are burning more if your Max HR is higher. When I am at 190 (100% Max HR for me) I will be buring more than you at 190 because clearly your Max HR is higher.
As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it0 -
Hey! I just wanted to throw in my experience... I used to have a very high resting heart rate--in the 80s or 90s. I sometimes also felt my heart beat weird at night... I don't know what it was. But that was when I wasn't exercising at all and I wasn't eating that great (my diet was ok but I think I ate a lot of sugar then).
Now that I exercise frequently throughout the week and I usually don't eat sugary things anymore, I never have those weird heart palpitations... or whatever they were. My resting heart rate is now about 60-65.
I was never overweight, but how active I am and how well I eat really affects my heart rate and even my heart beat I guess. So my suggestion to get your heart rate into a healthy zone is to exercise and clean up your diet if it contains a lot of junk. Try that for a few months and I bet you'll see an improvement.0 -
What are you saying I will benifite if I run on lower cals? I really do have a energry problem, for intance I need to sleep but I can't its really freaking fustrating
Well, too low cals would cause your body to balance out by lowering the resting metabolism. That doesn't mean sleep would be any better. It does mean weight loss would be slower.
I would research all those symptoms - high energy, high HR, fidgeting, mind races can't sleep, ect - might be something with thyroid causing everything to speed up.
if nothing really is there, you might look into eating to lower metabolism after you reach goal weight. It is a lifestyle many purposely select, does have some health benefits, and may have some side benefits for you. But it's a bummer trying to lose weight on slower metabolism. Bodies under enough stress with diet anyway, making deficit even bigger is more stress usually, not what it sounds like your body needs right now.0 -
As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it
Then my apologies, if you did do a long term ECG (EKG is the same thing but comes from the German word) they would have been more likely to see any cardiac arrhythmias - your cardiologist might propose other tests or a more extended evaluation using a Holter monitor.
In any case - the best advice you can get is from a good specialist - not here.0 -
:flowerforyou:Yeah, definitely see a cardiologist. Yes, some people have higher heart rates for whatever reasons, but if you're counting a random 175 from your pulse, it could mean atrial fibrillation.. Especially if it feels uneven.
Not trying to scare you.. If that is what it is, it's not uncommon and it's treatable. But we just want to make sure you're safe and healthy. :flowerforyou:
My mum would do this and get panic attacks with the high HR - she eventually needed a pacemaker to keep her heart rate from getting too fast. They had to put her on a holter monitor for almost two weeks to catch an episode but once the cardiologist saw what was happening she was set for surgery. High spontaneous heart rates can be from either the top chamber(atrium) of the heart or the bottom chamber( ventrical) not beating properly. They can cause different long term health problems and are treated differently. Unless they catch an episode it can be hard to tell. What will happen eventually, if left untreated is that the arrhythmia will continue to get more frequent and may take a trip to the ER to get it stopped. Not fun! Please see a cardiologist - it may save your life.0 -
My brother has a similar heart rate to yours and your doctor definitely should NOT have brushed you off. That is ridiculous. My brother is on beta blockers and they have helped him in ALL walks of life, including weight loss! His average heart rate used to be about 95-100 (which is NOT normal, do not let your doctor tell you that. Mine is 76. THAT is normal.) and now it is at 79! He is so healthy. Please talk to your doctor (or a new one) about your high heart rate. Also, the fact that it jumps so high is frightening and indicative of a heart condition! I can never even get my heart that high unless I'm like... marathon working out or something lol. Please check this out. It's dangerous.
As for weight loss, I don't think a high heart rate and weight loss have anything to do with each other. My brother was very overweight with his high heart rate and LOST weight with beta blockers, which lowers your heart rate. I think that you just might be one of the lucky ones who has the body type that sheds fat easily. (jealous)0 -
My heart rate is always on the high side as well sometimes even pushing 200bpm during some of my most intense workouts! I was recently diagnosed with a hyper thyroid and am currently on medicine to help slow it down!
However the down side is that I have to bust my butt in the gym twice as hard to get results and lose weight!0 -
As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it
Then my apologies, if you did do a long term ECG (EKG is the same thing but comes from the German word) they would have been more likely to see any cardiac arrhythmias - your cardiologist might propose other tests or a more extended evaluation using a Holter monitor.
In any case - the best advice you can get is from a good specialist - not here.
I wasn't asking for medical advise, if you re read what I wrote you will see I was wondering if a higher heart rate means more fat loss, but thanks any how0 -
My brother has a similar heart rate to yours and your doctor definitely should NOT have brushed you off. That is ridiculous. My brother is on beta blockers and they have helped him in ALL walks of life, including weight loss! His average heart rate used to be about 95-100 (which is NOT normal, do not let your doctor tell you that. Mine is 76. THAT is normal.) and now it is at 79! He is so healthy. Please talk to your doctor (or a new one) about your high heart rate. Also, the fact that it jumps so high is frightening and indicative of a heart condition! I can never even get my heart that high unless I'm like... marathon working out or something lol. Please check this out. It's dangerous.
As for weight loss, I don't think a high heart rate and weight loss have anything to do with each other. My brother was very overweight with his high heart rate and LOST weight with beta blockers, which lowers your heart rate. I think that you just might be one of the lucky ones who has the body type that sheds fat easily. (jealous)
Thank you for your comment, I have been to many different doctors and have been tested for so many things, including my therode, I have changed out drs, but all my tests come out just fine, soo I duno I feel great, except when I drink coffee, and I really don't want to spend any more money on drs for them to keep telling me the same thig, sooooo I duno, but I know I am not the only one with a heart rate this high, also my mom has heart problems and her heart rate is supper low, soo I duno0 -
As for the specifics I am not sure what they all were called, but I was hooked up to all this meshines that kept track of my heart rate for like 17 hours, they also did the thing I think it was an EKG, and they tested my blood, they said they would be able to tell from that something like if I had some kind of heart attack or something, it was kinda funny cause they thought I was on drugs cause how high my heart rate was, ( I wsn't) but soo I was being a bit over dramatic by saying they did everything obvously they have tones of test, but they did a lot of them and monitered me for almost a whole day, and found nothing to bad as to send em to a cardeoligist, I mean just to be carful I will prb check one out any way, but I will have to procwade my doc into it
Then my apologies, if you did do a long term ECG (EKG is the same thing but comes from the German word) they would have been more likely to see any cardiac arrhythmias - your cardiologist might propose other tests or a more extended evaluation using a Holter monitor.
In any case - the best advice you can get is from a good specialist - not here.
I wasn't asking for medical advise, if you re read what I wrote you will see I was wondering if a higher heart rate means more fat loss, but thanks any how
You are welcome. I answered your question first. I was moving on to more important matters. Best of luck.0 -
I don't normally bit 194 during my most extreme workouts where I feel like I'm going to die. Something's not right.
I hit 192 once for a second and then spent 10 minutes thinking about throwing up. Either your HRM isn't connecting properly or there is something very wrong.0 -
I was always told having a low heart rate is a sign of cardio health. Maybe one of the far more educated people around here can answer this?
My resting heart rate is 48.0 -
A heart rate of 194 is called SVT or SupraVentricular Tachycardia. The cause can be a variety of things, but it is not good. When my heart rate goes into the 180's, I call 911 or go to the nearest Emerngency room for treatment. I am very symptomatic,I am Sweaty, Dizzy lightheaded and nauseated. EVERY time I present to ER I get an IV with IV meds in specific a medicine called Adenosine to slow down the electrical conduction within my heart. I don't like the feeling and at that time could care less if I am burning any calories. A heart rate that high is not good Plese see a cardiologist..
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My mother had to have a procedure done for supra ventricular tachycardia and is now on medication. She has always been a healthy weight but would have episodes where her heart would beat very rapidly as you are describing.
Yes, others have high heart rates. This doesn't mean it's normal or healthy or that you don't have a serious medical condition that needs treatment before something fatal happens to you one day. People are concerned for you here for good reason. I work with cardiologists every day. The heart is their specialty. This is who you need to call ASAP. A holter monitor is what my mom had to wear for a couple of weeks before they diagnosed her. She hadn't had a heart attack or anything that would show up on an ECG or a blood test and it sounds like you don't either. Those test for bio markers and necrosis (heart muscle death) that are symptomatic of a heart attack. Since this isn't your problem, you've been dismissed. A specialist is who deals with rhythm problems. That's a whole different animal. They treat this with things like pacemakers or procedures like ablation or simply medication. Please please get to a cardiologist and get your heart rate/rhythm looked at.0 -
I was always told having a low heart rate is a sign of cardio health. Maybe one of the far more educated people around here can answer this?
My resting heart rate is 48.
If it has slowly lowered to 48 while doing cardio workouts, yes, that is good and indication of health.
Get ready, it also means your system is so efficient now, it also burns less calories at BMR or RMR than probably estimated.
Now, while working out, burning almost the same if not more. I'm sure at this point the HRM is grossly underestimating your calorie burn just because your HR stays lower than it used to.
But because you can now provide more oxygen at that lower HR, you are actually burning the same calories.
Breathing rate gone down too? How many breaths per min first thing in morning? (not after alarm wakes you though in a fright!)0 -
A normal heart rate is 60-100. My resting heart rate is usually in the 80's.. When I do my cardio my heart rate usually gets up to 160's... When I run my heart rate spikes high, I watch it and back down when that happens. My hearts not use to it. Not only is our outter body getting into shape but we also have many muscles that we dont think of. For example our Smooth muscles in our heart. We are also conditioning them. If you are normally a sedentary person, your heart isnt use to all this working out. Listen to your heart just like you listen to your body during a workout!
(Im a nurse by the way) 0 -
I was always told having a low heart rate is a sign of cardio health. Maybe one of the far more educated people around here can answer this?
My resting heart rate is 48.
If it has slowly lowered to 48 while doing cardio workouts, yes, that is good and indication of health.
Get ready, it also means your system is so efficient now, it also burns less calories at BMR or RMR than probably estimated.
Now, while working out, burning almost the same if not more. I'm sure at this point the HRM is grossly underestimating your calorie burn just because your HR stays lower than it used to.
But because you can now provide more oxygen at that lower HR, you are actually burning the same calories.
Breathing rate gone down too? How many breaths per min first thing in morning? (not after alarm wakes you though in a fright!)
Not if the HRM is set to minHR properly. VO2max calculation based on min max HR takes that into account.0 -
I am not an expert but 194 of heart rate is high especially you are just resting.
Athletes usually have a slow heart rate about 50's.
But what is important is that whether you have high or low heart rate, you don't feel any dizziness, shortness of breath or other alarming symptoms.0 -
I get to 200 easy when I'm on my run or even when I'm doing my cardio here at home. But never just when I'm not doing anything. If you are using a HRM to track it then I would write it down & what you were doing at the time, otherwise if you are not using a HRM to track then it's going to be way way way out.
But no higher heart rate does not always mean more cals burnt. I can actually burn more in the 130-140 range than higher on some days.0 -
I agree with the people here. Resting heart rate should never be that high. There is an underlying issue.0
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Here's another one for you.
How much water do you drink?
Are you SURE you're not dehydrated?
In cases of dehydration the heart has to consistently work faster to pump blood around the body because there is quite simply less of it to go around.
On average, your body loses 1-1.5 litres of water a day. If someone is undertaking a lot of activity, and therefore breathing and sweating more, they would lose more. So you should at least take that amount back in every day, if not more if you're active.
And don't worry about drinking too much (apart from in extreme circumstances, common sense needs to be applied here). The body is very good at regulating water. If you drink too much, your body will get rid of the excess, so you will pass urine more often and it will look almost clear.
If you don't drink enough, your body will save water by concentrating your urine, which will look darker, and your brain will tell you that you need more water by making you feel thirsty.
It's just a thought.0 -
No, higher heart rate for most is generally CV eg more cardiovascular and working on the heart and its fitness. Its generally accepted 110-130ish bpm is best for fat burn unless you are doing HIIT.0
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actually, if doing it 12 minutes a week is enough to start activating your body. Extremely short burst of high intensed exercise but kept in under 30 sec to 3 minutes.
Learnt it from BBC! "The Turth about Exercise"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyQSzx0ofto 0 -
No, higher heart rate for most is generally CV eg more cardiovascular and working on the heart and its fitness. Its generally accepted 110-130ish bpm is best for fat burn unless you are doing HIIT.
And this.
There is however a theory that anaerobic training/interval training/HIIT will burn more calories overall than aerobic exercise, but that is a different discussion really.
The theory revolves around the fact that the lactic acid system is much more inefficient at burning glucose than aerobic respiration, and then relies on your aerobic system working harder for longer to restore the balance and break down the lactic acid whilst at rest/active recovery.
Also the benefit of improving your bodys ability to pump blood and absorb oxygen does stand you in good stead at a later point depending on how fit you want to become.
But as for high resting HR - read dehydration as a first port of call and if there is still a problem... Go see a specialist.0 -
My resting HR used to be 175. I was at the time and still am overweight. In high school it was typically around 90-100..So I never thought much about it till I got older, and of coarse I am overweight. I was afraid Iw as a walking Heart Attack..I didn't notice much of a difference until I started exercising..I would get dizzy alot quicker, and vision issuses...
I ended up going to see a cardiologist...Ran all the test bloodwork, over night holster, treadmill, Echo., then went in for a heart cath..Very scary when you are 29 years old and hav ing to have a heart cath. It was explained that my HR was so high due to the irregular beat..Which I had all my life..Anyway, they did a heart cath to be on the safe side. Found that my heart muscles were very strong, no blockages, blood flow was great, just the irregular beat caused me to have a rapid beat to compensate for the long pause that my heart has during the beat process it is making up for it. Which then got me puzzled as to how to dure this issue, because it is not safe for my heart to be that high during resting even though my heart was healthy..I could still have a heart attack from it..; They told me the only way to reverse it was to stop my heart and hope when it start pumping again the beat becomes normal and then the rate will lower, next option lose weight! well how the heck do you that when your heart rate is already pushing 200?? They said getting to 200 was ok..for short periods of time, when yous tart to feel yourself getting light headed, sit down drink water..also said to start out with more low impact things, almost like daily activiites just more of them, to get you back in exercise mode..My next option which is what I did and add more daily activities into my life..was medication,..They said Iw ould probaly have to be on the meds the rest of my life to keep my heart rate under control..but that was back in 2010, I was on the meds for a year when I remembered to take the stuff..stopped taking it..decided a while back since I am on my weight loss journey I would do this right, get back on meds, so there would be no excuse not to exercise..well we moved so have a new dr..told her health history, she read through findings..she hooks me up to to ekg and checkl Hr..She thinks I am nuts..My heart rate resting was 50! Started monitoring it weekly with her from March till now..still 45-50! I am not sure what it was, that helped, but I have noticed since getting in to the doctor that first time and taking the medication I do feel alot better and it was a reality check..I am more conscience about what I do and how I feel when it comes to chest pains and stuff liek that..I am not sure how old you are..but please at least get it checked out..cant afford it..still go in, set up payment plans..something..better safe than sorry..it may be an irregular beat you can live with, but what if you can't!??your too young to have to worry about something like that..Iw as awalking heart attack, even though I could live with it,. but that once chance I get overly excited or my adrenaline gets going..it could happen..Sorry to be so long winded...but I wanted to share with you my story, of how simple of a fix it could be..but still could be dangerous..Good Luck and best wishes!0 -
Oh. Also...
When it comes to irregular heartbeat...
Get your potassium and sodium levels checked. If your sodium levels are high, it wins the absorption competition between itself and potassium, making your potassium levels sometimes dangerously low - which causes a condition that one of it's primary symptoms is irregular heartbeat and can lead to heart attacks.
Hypokalemia is it's name.
Inversely, too much potassium can cause the same problem, which is Hyperkalemia - which is why when people suggest a bananas only diet I laugh unbelieveably hard.0 -
Not if the HRM is set to minHR properly. VO2max calculation based on min max HR takes that into account.
How many HRM's have a stat regarding RHR, or measure it like few expensive Polar models?
And that stat is used to calculate a VO2max, which actually can have some accuracy, unless your VO2max is going up too high, then the formula loses accuracy.
The RHR of itself doesn't have a bearing on VO2max, but it is a valid indicator that means yours is likely good or bad in the range.0 -
No, higher heart rate for most is generally CV eg more cardiovascular and working on the heart and its fitness. Its generally accepted 110-130ish bpm is best for fat burn unless you are doing HIIT.
ehhhh, only if you look at the very narrow range of the time of the workout, ignoring rest of the day.
References to some studies.
http://www.alanaragon.com/myths-under-the-microscope-the-fat-burning-zone-fasted-cardio.html
http://workout911.com/?p=942
http://workout911.com/?p=27900
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