Can organic food help you lose weight?
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My freind told me today that if you eat all organic food you will lose weight. Is this true?
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My freind told me today that if you eat all organic food you will lose weight. Is this true?
LOL,
no. Losing weight is a result of an energy deficit. Since organic foods have the same calories as non organic food, they aren't any different from a weight loss perspective.0 -
Organic food has been scientifically proven to offer no measurable benefit to ones diet..
however it will have a significant impact on your wallet.
i can provide sources if you wish, or you can take my word for it.
your friend has unfortunately fallen victim to the cloud of misinformation surrounding organic food.0 -
I wish. If it were true, I wouldn't be over weight. Anyway, I think that by eating organic it leads to wanting to make healthier choices, which eventually might lead to losing weight. But an organic frozen Amy's pizza isn't much different then any other frozen pizzas.0
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Well since it's more expensive perhaps buying less food will lead to weight loss.
Otherwise no. The arguments in favor of organic have nothing to do with nutritional value or weight loss.0 -
I guess it does stop your buying too much food cause its so damn expensive lol!
so... maybe if your on a budget it would...0 -
My freind told me today that if you eat all organic food you will lose weight. Is this true?
I would say yes- if you are eating less of it calorically than what you are burning, so there is a deficit--- just like with non-organic food.0 -
Sure, when you get e-coli and your body contents are shooting out both ends, you will lose weight.0
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The only measurable difference with organic foods as far as the consumer is concerned is pesticide levels. It doesn't have anything to do with nutrition or weight loss. It's pretty well documented. The only reasons to buy organic are to support different agricultural practices or to reduce pesticides in your diet.0
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Definitely not. Eating 600kcal orgainc burger is no better than 600kcal non organic burger (for your weight).
Eating less and working out will help you loose weight.0 -
Organic food has been scientifically proven to offer no measurable benefit to ones diet..
however it will have a significant impact on your wallet.
i can provide sources if you wish, or you can take my word for it.
your friend has unfortunately fallen victim to the cloud of misinformation surrounding organic food.
Unfortunately, a lot of "science" that suggests there is no difference, is sponsored by Big Agrigculture (for obvious reasons). Investigate your sources. Other more independent studies have found significantly higher levels of many nutrients in organic foods. That's why it tastes better and, since it is more nourishing, one is satisfied with less (in addition to skipping the toxins that Big Agriculture includes in their versions).0 -
Organic food has been scientifically proven to offer no measurable benefit to ones diet..
however it will have a significant impact on your wallet.
i can provide sources if you wish, or you can take my word for it.
your friend has unfortunately fallen victim to the cloud of misinformation surrounding organic food.
LOL So Correct Here ^^^
There have been studies and numerous articles in recent weeks stating no Benefits to eating or Buying Organic except decreased funds in your bank account0 -
No. Nutritionally, organic food is pretty much the same as conventional. People choose organic because they dislike the use of artificial pesticides. That being said, I remain skeptical that artificial pesticides do any harm at all, and would also like the remind people that organic produce uses pesticides and stuff as well, just different kinds, and often times in much higher amounts (because they're less effective).
Honestly, if you want the best produce, buy local, organic or not. Local produce does not travel as far, so is fresher and ripens naturally, as opposed to what you buy in the store. Keep in mind the organic produce you buy in the supermarket still may travel several hundred of miles and may have been picked over a week ago.0 -
Organic food has been scientifically proven to offer no measurable benefit to ones diet..
however it will have a significant impact on your wallet.
i can provide sources if you wish, or you can take my word for it.
your friend has unfortunately fallen victim to the cloud of misinformation surrounding organic food.
LOL So Correct Here ^^^
There have been studies and numerous articles in recent weeks stating no Benefits to eating or Buying Organic except decreased funds in your bank account
And guess who sponsors the "research" you are talking about? Monsanto (better known by some as "Monsatan") and Cargill.-- agribusiness giants who are spending LOADS of money to fight California's Propostition 37 which would require agribusiness to label GMO foods in California. It is no accident that we are seeing these types of articles lately.
Some new French research has shown horrific cancerous tumors on rats fed GMO corn.0 -
And guess who sponsors the "research" you are talking about? Monsanto (better known by some as "Monsatan") and Cargill.-- agribusiness giants who are spending LOADS of money to fight California's Propostition 37 which would require agribusiness to label GMO foods in California. It is no accident that we are seeing these types of articles lately.
Some new French research has shown horrific cancerous tumors on rats fed GMO corn.
That study has been decried as flawed because the type of rat they used has a tendency towards those types of tumours and the control rats also had tumours.
Are Organic Foods Safer or Healthier Than Conventional Alternatives?: A Systematic Review
Crystal Smith-Spangler, MD, MS; Margaret L. Brandeau, PhD; Grace E. Hunter, BA; J. Clay Bavinger, BA; Maren Pearson, BS; Paul J. Eschbach; Vandana Sundaram, MPH; Hau Liu, MD, MS, MBA, MPH; Patricia Schirmer, MD; Christopher Stave, MLS; Ingram Olkin, PhD; and Dena M. Bravata, MD, MS
Background: The health benefits of organic foods are unclear.
Purpose: To review evidence comparing the health effects of organic and conventional foods.
Data Sources: MEDLINE (January 1966 to May 2011), EMBASE, CAB Direct, Agricola, TOXNET, Cochrane Library (January 1966 to May 2009), and bibliographies of retrieved articles.
Study Selection: English-language reports of comparisons of organically and conventionally grown food or of populations consuming these foods.
Data Extraction: 2 independent investigators extracted data on methods, health outcomes, and nutrient and contaminant levels.
Data Synthesis: 17 studies in humans and 223 studies of nutrient and contaminant levels in foods met inclusion criteria. Only 3 of the human studies examined clinical outcomes, finding no significant differences between populations by food type for allergic outcomes (eczema, wheeze, atopic sensitization) or symptomatic Campylobacter infection. Two studies reported significantly lower urinary pesticide levels among children consuming organic versus conventional diets, but studies of biomarker and nutrient levels in serum, urine, breast milk, and semen in adults did not identify clinically meaningful differences. All estimates of differences in nutrient and contaminant levels in foods were highly heterogeneous except for the estimate for phosphorus; phosphorus levels were significantly higher than in conventional produce, although this difference is not clinically significant. The risk for contamination with detectable pesticide residues was lower among organic than conventional produce (risk difference, 30% [CI, −37% to −23%]), but differences in risk for exceeding maximum allowed limits were small. Escherichia coli contamination risk did not differ between organic and conventional produce. Bacterial contamination of retail chicken and pork was common but unrelated to farming method. However, the risk for isolating bacteria resistant to 3 or more antibiotics was higher in conventional than in organic chicken and pork (risk difference, 33% [CI, 21% to 45%]).
Limitation: Studies were heterogeneous and limited in number, and publication bias may be present.
Conclusion: The published literature lacks strong evidence that organic foods are significantly more nutritious than conventional foods. Consumption of organic foods may reduce exposure to pesticide residues and antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
Primary Funding Source: None.0 -
Organic food has been scientifically proven to offer no measurable benefit to ones diet..
however it will have a significant impact on your wallet.
i can provide sources if you wish, or you can take my word for it.
your friend has unfortunately fallen victim to the cloud of misinformation surrounding organic food.
Unfortunately, a lot of "science" that suggests there is no difference, is sponsored by Big Agrigculture (for obvious reasons). Investigate your sources. Other more independent studies have found significantly higher levels of many nutrients in organic foods. That's why it tastes better and, since it is more nourishing, one is satisfied with less (in addition to skipping the toxins that Big Agriculture includes in their versions).
The other benefit of buying organic is that to be USDA certified organic, there are NO GMOs. It's much closer to the way that food was farmed, cattle raised, 100 years ago before science was so incorporated to everything that we consume.0 -
yes, because it costs more, so you will not be able to afford as much food, thus reducing your caloric intake, thus more weightloss............0
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The other benefit of buying organic is that to be USDA certified organic, there are NO GMOs. It's much closer to the way that food was farmed, cattle raised, 100 years ago before science was so incorporated to everything that we consume.
Why are people so afraid of GMO?
you can choose high yield, resistant, GMO crops...
or a substantial number of the global population starve to death.
your choice0 -
Im so glad I read all these comments before running out and spending $200 on my failed weight loss lol.
But I do like to buy organic fruit. I try to eat 2 apples a day.0 -
i think organic produce tastes better. maybe if your fruits and veggies taste better you'll eat more and lose more weight? also if you decide to go organic you might start paying more attention to what you put in your body and it could jumpstart a lifestyle change. i say go for it. but buy from farmers markets and food co-ops. most of the major corporations in big grocery stores slap organic labels on the food and it doesn't mean a thing.0
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if you want to buy organic... go ahead...
just remember that as far as science can tell besides a slight raise in the level of pesticides in your body (not close to the harmfull levels either only about 30% higher than organic) theres no real benefit.0 -
And guess who sponsors the "research" you are talking about? Monsanto (better known by some as "Monsatan") and Cargill.-- agribusiness giants who are spending LOADS of money to fight California's Propostition 37 which would require agribusiness to label GMO foods in California. It is no accident that we are seeing these types of articles lately.
Some new French research has shown horrific cancerous tumors on rats fed GMO corn.
That study has been decried as flawed because the type of rat they used has a tendency towards those types of tumours and the control rats also had tumours.
Are Organic Foods Safer or Healthier Than Conventional Alternatives?: A Systematic Review
Crystal Smith-Spangler, MD, MS; Margaret L. Brandeau, PhD; Grace E. Hunter, BA; J. Clay Bavinger, BA; Maren Pearson, BS; Paul J. Eschbach; Vandana Sundaram, MPH; Hau Liu, MD, MS, MBA, MPH; Patricia Schirmer, MD; Christopher Stave, MLS; Ingram Olkin, PhD; and Dena M. Bravata, MD, MS
Background: The health benefits of organic foods are unclear.
Purpose: To review evidence comparing the health effects of organic and conventional foods.
Data Sources: MEDLINE (January 1966 to May 2011), EMBASE, CAB Direct, Agricola, TOXNET, Cochrane Library (January 1966 to May 2009), and bibliographies of retrieved articles.
Study Selection: English-language reports of comparisons of organically and conventionally grown food or of populations consuming these foods.
Data Extraction: 2 independent investigators extracted data on methods, health outcomes, and nutrient and contaminant levels.
Data Synthesis: 17 studies in humans and 223 studies of nutrient and contaminant levels in foods met inclusion criteria. Only 3 of the human studies examined clinical outcomes, finding no significant differences between populations by food type for allergic outcomes (eczema, wheeze, atopic sensitization) or symptomatic Campylobacter infection. Two studies reported significantly lower urinary pesticide levels among children consuming organic versus conventional diets, but studies of biomarker and nutrient levels in serum, urine, breast milk, and semen in adults did not identify clinically meaningful differences. All estimates of differences in nutrient and contaminant levels in foods were highly heterogeneous except for the estimate for phosphorus; phosphorus levels were significantly higher than in conventional produce, although this difference is not clinically significant. The risk for contamination with detectable pesticide residues was lower among organic than conventional produce (risk difference, 30% [CI, −37% to −23%]), but differences in risk for exceeding maximum allowed limits were small. Escherichia coli contamination risk did not differ between organic and conventional produce. Bacterial contamination of retail chicken and pork was common but unrelated to farming method. However, the risk for isolating bacteria resistant to 3 or more antibiotics was higher in conventional than in organic chicken and pork (risk difference, 33% [CI, 21% to 45%]).
Limitation: Studies were heterogeneous and limited in number, and publication bias may be present.
Conclusion: The published literature lacks strong evidence that organic foods are significantly more nutritious than conventional foods. Consumption of organic foods may reduce exposure to pesticide residues and antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
Primary Funding Source: None.
This was on many health websites:
"A two-year long French feeding study designed to evaluate the long-term health effects of a genetically engineered corn found that rats fed Monsanto’s maize developed massive breast tumors, kidney and liver damage, and other serious health problems. The major onslaught of diseases set in during the 13th month
Female rats that ate genetically engineered corn died 2-3 times more than controls, and more rapidly, while the male GE-fed rats had tumors that occurred up to a year-and-a-half earlier than rats not fed GE corn
According to results from a 10-year long feeding study on rats, mice, pigs and salmon, genetically engineered feed causes obesity, along with significant changes in the digestive system and major organs, including the liver, kidneys, pancreas, genitals and more
The EPA admits there’s “mounting evidence” that Monsanto’s insecticide-fighting YieldGard corn is losing its effectiveness in the Midwest. Last year, rootworms resistant to the toxin in the genetically designed corn infested fields in Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota and Nebraska
Genetically engineered foods are responsible for development of resistant weeds and pests; increased pathogenic virulence; degradation of soil quality; reduced nutrient content in food; exponential rise in infertility and birth defects; and reduced crop yields, and more..."
Agribusiness is fighting organic foods because they know that foods that carry the "organic" label may not have GMO. And agribusiness has bet VERY big on GMO. They stand to lose enormous amounts of money, not to mention loss of monopoly position on food production if GMO are rejected on a wide scale. "Science" has been severely compromised by under-the-table money from giant corporations.0 -
The other benefit of buying organic is that to be USDA certified organic, there are NO GMOs. It's much closer to the way that food was farmed, cattle raised, 100 years ago before science was so incorporated to everything that we consume.
Why are people so afraid of GMO?
you can choose high yield, resistant, GMO crops...
or a substantial number of the global population starve to death.
your choice
Are you, in any way, associated with the corporations pushing GMO?0 -
The other benefit of buying organic is that to be USDA certified organic, there are NO GMOs. It's much closer to the way that food was farmed, cattle raised, 100 years ago before science was so incorporated to everything that we consume.
Why are people so afraid of GMO?
you can choose high yield, resistant, GMO crops...
or a substantial number of the global population starve to death.
your choice
Read the material that I posted. GMO is already beginning to produce agricultural DISASTER.0 -
As already posted, losing weight is a calorie deficit. Period.
However; meat with growth hormones are really not your friend. Think about it. Other than that, most pesticides don't have calories as far as I know.0 -
Did you mean to start a war here? People and their opinions....
Organics won't help you lose more weight, but they will NOT contain pesticides, antibiotics, hormones and other crap your body doesn't need, that can lead to ill health.
AND, THAT is what has NOT made the news media...
So, your friend is right and wrong!
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I eat organic meat whenever possible, as I find the idea of animals getting injected with growth hormones and antibiotics revolting and certainly not appetizing. Organic chicken tastes better. It's that simple. Cook organic and conventional chicken side by side and do your own comparison. You'll taste the difference. And what is wrong with spending more money on food? Would you rather invest in your health and pleasure or another thing that will go out style next season and end up in a landfill?0
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As already posted, losing weight is a calorie deficit. Period.
However; meat with growth hormones are really not your friend. Think about it. Other than that, most pesticides don't have calories as far as I know.
But they do have a bearing on weight gain because many pesticides have a "zenoestrogenic" affect on the body. Zenoestrogens just like real estrogens can cause weight gain, high blood sugar levels and other undesirable health effects. You are right about growth hormones in meat. Bovine growth hormone given to cows to increase milk production is bad for us and bad for the cows. The agribusiness giants like Monsanto, Cargill and Archer Daniels Midland are only interested in profits and care not a whit about public health. They routinely lie and obfuscate to cover up the disastrous effects their policies are having on agriculture. And they buy influence wherever they can to protect themselves from the tremendous loss of revenue that will occur once the people really understand where agribusiness is leading us.
The super-wealthy have their own organic farms that they eat from. When they attend big conflabs like the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, they insist on being served only organic food. But any old chemically-laced garbage is okay for the rest of us. :mad:0 -
As already posted, losing weight is a calorie deficit. Period.
However; meat with growth hormones are really not your friend. Think about it. Other than that, most pesticides don't have calories as far as I know.
But they do have a bearing on weight gain because many pesticides have a "zenoestrogenic" affect on the body. Zenoestrogens just like real estrogens can cause weight gain, high blood sugar levels and other undesirable health effects. You are right about growth hormones in meat. Bovine growth hormone given to cows to increase milk production is bad for us and bad for the cows. The agribusiness giants like Monsanto, Cargill and Archer Daniels Midland are only interested in profits and care not a whit about public health. They routinely lie and obfuscate to cover up the disastrous effects their policies are having on agriculture. And they buy influence wherever they can to protect themselves from the tremendous loss of revenue that will occur once the people really understand where agribusiness is leading us.
The super-wealthy have their own organic farms that they eat from. When they attend big conflabs like the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, they insist on being served only organic food. But any old chemically-laced garbage is okay for the rest of us. :mad:
see i post a scientific study, i quote the peer reviewed published version of it...
you post stuff that "was on many health websites" and then go right off the deep end...
can you back your statements up with credible independent sources?
watch, this is you
"this has been posted on many science websites
aliens are injecting people in their sleep with radioactive chemicals
that is why there are more cancers detected than ever before, not because were better at detecting cancer, its the aliens..."
unless you can back up your statements with hard evidence, you may as well be talking rubbish.0 -
ANY food can help you lose weight if you eat fewer calories than you burn.0
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aliens are injecting people in their sleep with radioactive chemicals
that is why there are more cancers detected than ever before, not because were better at detecting cancer, its the aliens..."
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