95% of people who lose weight put it back on. Why?
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Well, it looks like you are on your way to some positive change again. Hopefully this time will be different. Do you think you have an emotional aspect to your eating that also causes the gain?
Oh yeah, definitely. Food is one constant in my life that always makes me happy. When I eat food I love I get a high from it, then a withdrawal just like a drug. I have to fight every day to eat a controlled amount of food and not eat however much I feel like.0 -
wow. simple wow. wishing you all the best in keeping it off. quite amazing. great attitude.It is my understanding that most of the 5% continue to log their food in some way and have changed their eating style/ way of life on a permanent basis. This is why I am continuing on MFP. I have kept my weight off for 3 months and have no intention "of going back there" again.I don't give up even if a have a bad day or two.0
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I have always been in the health range of weight but heavier than I wish I was...So I have been trying to lose weight all my life. The thing is every time I manage to lose a few pounds, they just come back later no matter what I do. I almost believe that my body remembers how much I weight and decides that for me.
This's frustrating, really.
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Becuase you can only go so long before you realize the awesomeness of nachos.
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But in a lot of cases I think it's because they've almost been a little too strict?
I think you're on to something there. I don't bother to make a change I'm not prepared to stick with for life. If I make a change I can't stick with, when I stop the weight will come back on.0 -
Becuase you can only go so long before you realize the awesomeness of nachos.
Honestly true. Luckily, you can still eat nachos on a diet. It's all about moderation - a very un-consumerism concept!0 -
Because they choose to gain it back. Period. :yawn:
All the excuses in the world (and believe me, I've used 'em all) don't change the fact that overeating (taking in FAR more calories than we burn off) makes....us....OBESE.
Without accepting full, absolute and total (redundancy intentional!) responsibility, for every bite, every mile walked and every pound gained and lost.....we are doomed.
I have chosen to be aware of what I'm doing today, ..... I'll take the credit, or the blame...I own my body and my mind.
Lowell :drinker:
I like this! But it does help to have some skills for navigating a society with an over abundance of food because basically we are fish swimming against the stream.. every where we turn society now is against the fit person in many ways. Women especially, whether they mean to or not tend to tear us fit women down every chance they get. They either say we are too skinny or we work ridiculously hard, when really all we did was change our lifestyle.
Women, ever notice when you were/are fat/obese that other women say Oh you look fine or whatever, but the moment you become fit Oh you are too skinny or too many muscles, or you will wither away to nothing or something negative. Where when you were fat men basically ignored you and now when you are fit they give you attention and praise. It is rather interesting, and it is something your mind needs to be ready for when you are close to reaching your goal and do reach your goal.0 -
Honestly true. Luckily, you can still eat nachos on a diet. It's all about moderation - a very un-consumerism concept!
LOL Dr. Gary Null said "there's no moderation on bad foods. Eliminate them" I can't stand watching him throwing away those yummy chips.0 -
Honestly true. Luckily, you can still eat nachos on a diet. It's all about moderation - a very un-consumerism concept!
It is all about a calorie budget. You can eat whatever you want. However if you really get into fitness you will find that fueling your body matters more. You learn to enjoy healthy foods that taste good, because every calorie is precious and needs to count for something. And you learn to fit nachos, cookies, chicken wings, or whatever into your calorie budget on occasion because the value is "you enjoy them", but mostly a fit person wants to feel good and strong for their given sport and to sleep well at night, more healthy foods than not will do just that. You can still have whatever you want. Calories are all that matter. Trying to plan macros makes life far to complicated. Eat what you enjoy, mostly healthy, enough carbs, protein, and fat for energy.0 -
I think one reason may include using the actual word "diet"
Many people often will go on a "diet" but never really change their eating habits. They will lose the weight but; then will regain the weight plus more due to not really changing their life style. I think it should be a change of how you are living your life. It's just that simple.0 -
I think one reason may include using the actual word "diet"
Many people often will go on a "diet" but never really change their eating habits. They will lose the weight but; then will regain the weight plus more due to not really changing their life style. I think it should be a change of how you are living your life. It's just that simple.
It's just that simple to say it, but change lift style or habits isn't really...that simple for many of us. It's not just about will power; there's much more involved. If it was like a switch turning on and off, I bet there wouldn't be many fat people left.0 -
Your body upregulates and downregulates certain hormones that will drive you back to eating more even if you don't want to. For serious life changing commitments as well- any change has to be sustained long-term.
This. A body that's been overweight or obese doesn't function in the same way as one that's always been lean.
And even after losing weight, we're geared to maximize calories, always. (We underestimate portion sizes, etc etc. Even if you know them, if you're not actively counting, it's easy enough to slip, especially given how food is made and served.)
Solution: count calories and exercise for life.0 -
Because once they hit their goal weight, they think that they can quit trying so hard to be healthy!0
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Your quote from the old post is very interesting.. yet depressing. Still thank you... I learned something tonight. Those studies do seem to point to genetics being very important in what weight is.
I do find it interesting though that almost everyone in this post discounts the possibility of emotional eating as even a possibility that is why they gain it back or why they gained it in the first place. I notice that men in particular responses to the question of emotional eating is to "suck it up" or "take accountability for you life". That does not surprise me though as I think most men are out of touch with their emotions, especially overweight men. I guess that is how men survived for all these years. If us men were really in touch with our emotions we would not have been able to survive 100's or 1000's of years ago. But I think now those survival instincts of suppressing emotions do not serve us men very well anymore, especially us overweight men.
I hope that research will continue on this topic. Humans are so interesting and complex. I am sure as the weight gain epidemic is studied more in depth more and more answers will come forth and we will get closer to the truth.
I think one of the reasons humans have survived as a species is that we are overly optimistic. In a study I ready about we consistently underestimate the likelihood of the average human getting life threatening diseases or serious medical conditions like cancer, diabetes, heart disease, stroke etc. I think it is one of the factors that has allowed us to rise to the top of the food chain- hope, and often unrealistic hope. Yes, we can against all odds really move that rubber tree plant. And by denying our emotional eating habits we are actually able to lose the weight against all odds, especially us men through sheer force of will. Be are we mentally well after losing the weight? not so sure about that.
And again, I do not think emotional eating is the ONLY factor. There are so many factors to weight regain. I do think though that the importance of emotional eating is way underestimated. Even the responses in this post discount the importance of emotional eating which leads me to believe that many overweight people are out of touch with their emotions. They "blame" it on other factors. And to be sure there are other important factors.
I know I make a lot of assumptions in what I wrote and probably a lot of my thoughts on the subject are wrong or inaccurate. I am looking forward to learning more about this topic as I am sure that it will be something that will continue to be studied.
Anyway, no one really knows and we all have our opinions. I really hope the best for every one of us and that we all can achieve our goals and dreams and enjoy our lives. After all... life is short. enjoy it!just copying an old post.
While I'm not keen on the entire set - point theory, I do think genetic inheritance plays a very important part in the body returning to a "comfortable" weight. I really think weight is due to a combination of both genes and environment. After reading articles like the following I can't help but wonder if dieting is just too hard for some. My thinking (at the moment ) leans towards the possibility that people who relapse are just tired of the struggle to maintain the constant vigilance. Maybe it's due to a shifting of values where remaining thin is no longer a top priority in life, or counting calories and thinking about food becomes too time consuming and starts taking away from someone's life instead of adding to it. It's nice to be free from analyzing your options every time you eat something, to be able to eat something because that's what you "want", and not what you "should" have.
I'm sure there are many reasons, just throwing some possibilities out there.
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Here's my 2 cents. Losing weight can be very hard. Some people make it like a second job, with the food tracking, weighing, health club visits. People burnout, and once the weight is off, what's the motivation to keep up the intense pace? So, as soon as you let up a little, the weight creeps back up.
My husband asked me why I didn't do an intense few months and lose the weight, like they do on biggest loser. I'm not at that place in my life. I want to really change my habits, so being a healthy weight is effortless, like driving a car. It makes losing weight sooooooo slow (fought five pounds for a few months), but I don't feel deprived at all, or overworked.
Besides healthy habits, I hope to maintain weight loss once I get to goal by weighing myself regularly, and I read here not allowing yourself to go up a clothing size, plus regular small fitness challenges is what I'm planning on. Essentially, what I'm doing right now.0 -
I know exactly why I got fat. I'm an addict. I've been addicted to all sorts of things. When I quit doing drugs, I moved onto food. It's always something, now it's changing myself. Hopefully this time it will stick. I've made it over 5 years off drugs. I hope someday to be able to say the same thing for my unhealthy food habits. One of my main goals in life is to be addiction free. No matter what that addiction might be.0
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ah yes. nachos. pizza too.Becuase you can only go so long before you realize the awesomeness of nachos.0
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In other words, by dealing with the underlying issues that fueled their emotional hunger, they were able to turn off their hunger switch, which resulted in less emotional eating.
I don't think that statement follows at all, although the people who weren't recidivists obviously did something that helped. I assume they kept weighing themselves, exercising, and cutting back when they saw they were gaining.0 -
That is an interesting response. what stories or posts have been most helpful for you? I don't have a ton of time and I see you have been on this site for many years and have made a 1000's of posts.peterdt,
Good post. I hope people actually read it. It is so simple, yet so elusive for so many. I've managed to sort through my issues, and alot of it has been done here, by reading other peoples' stories.
I've kept my weight off, but it took a lot of introspection, and some major life changes - not just dietary, but in my relationships with others.0 -
Why? Because it is super easy to fall off the wagon. Ask any alcoholic or drug user how many times they relapsed before quitting completely.
Absolutely. Been sober over 29 years. Spent time "changing seats on the Titanic" when I stopped drinking. Food was a replacement.
I've lost the same 30 pounds several times.
Finally had to accept that there are certain food types I can't tolerate in the same way I can't tolerate alcohol. Hopefully this leads to a more permanent loss when I get to my goal weight.0 -
I don't know about others, but for me it is overconfidence that causes me to regain lost weight. After a year or so at a lower weight, I get complacent that I will be this way forever, and fall back into my old eating pattern. Then I begin getting a little more lax on the exercise routine. Then when the weight starts to creep back on I blame it on PMS or water weight or whatever. Then eventually I'm back to where I started and I begin the pattern all over again.
I've done this my whole life. Each new weight loss effort is harder than the last, it seems. I'd like to say I'm going to be vigilant about my eating and exercise habits forever this time, but I don't know that its true. It's just so easy to think of yourself as "done" losing weight after a year or more of maintenance.0 -
I think food "addiction" is slightly different than quitting drinking or smoking simply because, though it may feel to an addict they require cigarettes or alcohol to live, they don't. You HAVE to eat, can't get around it. Food is so abundant and relatively cheap and tied to so many happy things like holidays and family celebrations and sports and all the fun things in life. 90% of the food available in the grocery store closest to my house probably isn't worth eating, really. Cutting back or cutting some things out for the most part, takes a lot of attention and care every day.0
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I'm a victim of this.
First started off at 246lbs, and got down all the way to 185lbs. This was during the summer and my cousin came by from Montreal to visit us, we went out every day till he left at the end of summer. Afterwards I started my first year in college and my priorities changed. I kept eating out and snacking constantly and lost track of my weight. During the winter break I went all the way back up to 230lbs. Since then I've been up and down with 195-205lbs. I'm currently 205lbs.
I'm aware that being healthy is a lifestyle and not a fad. I know once I reach my goal I'll have a bit more wiggle room to eat what I like(my biggest weakness is food,) but I know now it's a lifestyle change and I'm open for the challenges and goals that come with it.0 -
I think food "addiction" is slightly different than quitting drinking or smoking simply because, though it may feel to an addict they require cigarettes or alcohol to live, they don't. You HAVE to eat, can't get around it. Food is so abundant and relatively cheap and tied to so many happy things like holidays and family celebrations and sports and all the fun things in life. 90% of the food available in the grocery store closest to my house probably isn't worth eating, really. Cutting back or cutting some things out for the most part, takes a lot of attention and care every day.
I agree with this.0 -
The "why" is simple. It stops becoming a priority. The reasons it stops can vary.
I gained weight when my mom was sick and in the hospital, then more after she died, and more still after my father died about a year later. If I had to go through that hell again, I wouldn't do things differently. I wouldn't take time away from sitting by her hospital bed to go for a run. I'd still have visited my Dad as much as I could... more if I'd known how little time we had. I wouldn't make "me" a priority until I could do that without taking time away from those who needed me more.
That said, I also gained because the last time I lost, I didn't do it in a sustainable way. It wasn't a lifestyle I could maintain long term. This time, I never starved myself to lose, and never cut out foods I loved. I added more healthier foods, and a lot more exercise, and it's something I've been able to stick with for almost two years now.
Yes. Saying people gain it back "because they choose to" is not really right. No one wakes up one day and say, "Hey, ya know what, I'm tired of being fit! Time to fatten up again!" This is much, much more accurate.0 -
This is a really good post. I have battled hypothroidism for years. The weight creeped up. I have exercised the entire time. I have battle feet problem. The weight creeped up. Part of the excuse you make with yourself. This time I am focused and made it a priority. Also I am not in hurry to get to the finish line, I just want to get to the finish line like I did in my first half marathon. I want to be healthier. Its same changes like drinking water versus a diet drink. I no longer drink diet anything. So far, I am down 20 pounds, I am now finally in the upper healthy range. I plan to lose more and stay in the healthy range, I saw the health battle both my parents fought, I don't want to do the same thing. I have seen my sister battle cancer 3 times and know how the her being overweight has contributed to it. Being healthy and not on a lot of medications is my goal. I remind myself of that every day and will the rest of my life.0
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i suspect most dieters do the 'good' food 'bad' food thing:
1. stop eating 'bad' foods
2. weight falls off
3. fall off wagon and quit diet halfway through OR
4. achieve weight goal before eventually slipping back to bad foods.
there are of course other issues surrounding weightloss such as a basic refusal to take responsibility for what you eat, but until you learn the art of moderation you're pretty much doomed to failure.0 -
Alot of people see their goal as achieving their desired weight and they are done and no longer have to stick to their diet. A more logical goal would to achieve your desired weight and see how long you can maintain it. The longer the better. Now that is the real goal. Nobody said this was gonna be easy.0
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Great thread, I have really enjoyed the discussion. I too am an emotional eater. I make terrible food decisions when I am hungry, angry, lonely or tired. I have had to make some emotional shifts on top of learning how to eat properly, plan/prepare my own meals and portion control. MFP has been life changing for me and the perfect compliment to the self discovery I have embarked upon. I understand that I have to be accountable for my food intake and daily activity level. I have heard that the people that continue to keep the weight off continue to journal their food.0
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Easy to fall back into old habits.
I've had issues with gaining weight back that I lose. I think things to myself like, "I'm finally losing weight.... I feel good about myself... I think I can splurge on some soda and ice cream." 5 cans of soda and 2 large bowls of ice cream later..... welllllllll......0
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