Is it better to be under net or shovel in the junk?

If I'm under, I go for the junk. Pizza, ice cream, whatever I can get my hands on.
On another note, I really can't lose weight. Can anyone help me?

If you're not hungry, don't eat, whether you're under net or not. If you are, have a healthy snack like others recommended. I'm way under today since I was sick all afternoon, but I'm not hungry, so I'm staying under. I'll more than make up for it this weekend :laugh:

If I was not hungry, I'd go to bed short. Chances are I'm going to go over now and then so it will all even out over time. If I was consistently 500 short, I'd tweak my diet to get closer to goal on average.

^^ This is what I do as well. Unless it is a *huge* deficit (in which case I'm probably hungry.) But like another poster above said, it doesn't have to be nothing or junk. What about some nuts or nut butter on a slice of toast?

If you're hungry, eat. If you aren't hungry, don't eat. But, assuming your calorie goals are appropriate, make the necessary adjustments to your plan for future days so you aren't in this conundrum at the end of the day.

Listen buddy, you don't know everything. When people are on a chronic calorie deficit, they don't get hungry when it would be appropriate. Hence all the "I CAN'T eat all my calories!!!" posts. Don't act like you're king-*kitten* when you're only the duke of dookie.

You sound hangry.

You should probably eat something.


(Or maybe it's all of the testosterone (or endosterone) coursing through your body from all of the heavy lifting.)

If you're hungry, eat. If you aren't hungry, don't eat. But, assuming your calorie goals are appropriate, make the necessary adjustments to your plan for future days so you aren't in this conundrum at the end of the day.

Listen buddy, you don't know everything. When people are on a chronic calorie deficit, they don't get hungry when it would be appropriate. Hence all the "I CAN'T eat all my calories!!!" posts. Don't act like you're king-*kitten* when you're only the duke of dookie.

You sound hangry.

You should probably eat something.


(Or maybe it's all of the testosterone (or endosterone) coursing through your body from all of the heavy lifting.)

Maybe the two of you should get a room... :smokin:

If you're hungry, eat. If you aren't hungry, don't eat. But, assuming your calorie goals are appropriate, make the necessary adjustments to your plan for future days so you aren't in this conundrum at the end of the day.

Listen buddy, you don't know everything. When people are on a chronic calorie deficit, they don't get hungry when it would be appropriate. Hence all the "I CAN'T eat all my calories!!!" posts. Don't act like you're king-*kitten* when you're only the duke of dookie.

You sound hangry.

You should probably eat something.


(Or maybe it's all of the testosterone (or endosterone) coursing through your body from all of the heavy lifting.)

Maybe the two of you should get a room... :smokin:

No WAY Dana. This guy is a dad, and he's borderline eccentric! *smirk*

Oh no you di'n't!

NO YOU DI'N'T!!!

when you dont eat close to the amount of calories your body needs you will go into starvation mode and whatever food you do eat your body will store and will turn to fat because it will not know when it will get its next meal. I learned this the hard way when I wasnt loosing any weight and went to a nutritionist and found this out. I started eating what I was siposto eat and now im loosing weight even though some days its very hard to eat all my callories and usually I go over my fat or protein or something but come as close to my calories as I can. Hope this helps good luck every one.

As a rule of thumb I don't eat anything after 8pm .. Even if my calorie count is low.

But, I think this is a personal opinion and I'm definitely interested to see what others have to say about this!

Great thread, thanks!

not only silly but pointless...if i didnt eat after 8 id starve

It isn't silly or pointless... I rarely eat after 6pm and I don't starve and I go to bed around 11pm. You really shouldn't eat too terribly late anyway... in mine and my doctors opinion anyway.

Eat high calorie HEALTHY food like peanut butter, whole milk, avocado etc...
A serving of 300ml of whole milk is about 192 calories, mix in a blender with a large banana (105ish cals) and a tablespoon of peanut butter (95cals) is 392 calories.

If you're hungry, eat ice cream. If you aren't hungry, don't eat. But, assuming your calorie goals are appropriate, make the necessary adjustments to your plan for future days so you aren't in this conundrum at the end of the day.

Fixed it for ya.

If you're really not hungry and this isn't a regular occurrence, don't worry about it. But if you really want to bump it up, have a peanut butter & honey sandwich, or peanut butter & some dark chocolate or something like that. No need to shovel junk.

I recommend the PB and honey. Amazing sandwich. Don't knock it till you try it. :happy:

As a rule of thumb I don't eat anything after 8pm .. Even if my calorie count is low.

But, I think this is a personal opinion and I'm definitely interested to see what others have to say about this!

Great thread, thanks!

not only silly but pointless...if i didnt eat after 8 id starve

It isn't silly or pointless... I rarely eat after 6pm and I don't starve and I go to bed around 11pm. You really shouldn't eat too terribly late anyway... in mine and my doctors opinion anyway.

Agreed. If you want to burn more fat, it is wise to go 12 to 14 hours without eating---you force your body to convert from burning stored glycogen to burning fat for fuel through the long hours when you are not eating. (You will sleep better too if you cut off eating 3 to 4 hours before bed---that is, unless you haven't eaten enough throughout the day and then you will be too hungry to sleep.) I try to eat the most fat of my day at dinner, as that is supposed to facilitate fat-burning through the night and keep me from being too hungry to sleep. I typically cut off eating at 7 p.m. and then, I will go til 9 a.m. the next day, before eating breakfast. I will even skip breakfast at least one morning a week in order to burn fat even longer. This fat-burning technique is called "intermittent fasting" and it has facilitated fat loss for me. I've lost 14 pounds and three inches off my waist. In the past, because of my ornery metabolism, I had to go below 1000 calories to even begin to see a reduction in my fat stores. Definitely not healthy--and it's exhausting, to boot. When I learned how and what to eat, it made a big difference. I am losing from my fat stores slowly (about 1 to 2 pounds per week) and so far, I don't think I have lost any lean tissue as I have been exercising more than I usually do when I diet and I seem to be getting stronger.

After all my activities got added in this evening... AFTER I was done eating for the day...
I am short like 500 something calories. (net)

Do you go to bed short or do you grab something high calorie and full of junk to compensate?

Why does high calorie have to be junk. Two slices of whole grain bread and 3 tablespoons of all natural peanut butter will get you pretty close to that 500. Or if you don't want peanut butter choose almond or cashew butter instead. None of that is junk. It is nutrition packed, healthy, and high calorie.

when you dont eat close to the amount of calories your body needs you will go into starvation mode and whatever food you do eat your body will store and will turn to fat because it will not know when it will get its next meal. I learned this the hard way when I wasnt loosing any weight and went to a nutritionist and found this out. I started eating what I was siposto eat and now im loosing weight even though some days its very hard to eat all my callories and usually I go over my fat or protein or something but come as close to my calories as I can. Hope this helps good luck every one.

This this this.

I have tried to tell my friends this - I have one who burns 1500-2000 calories a day and eats only 1200. Your body panics and turns every bite into fat. Unless said friend plans on burning 1500-2000 calories every day for the rest of his life (NO BREAKS for vacation, or sickness, or breaking a leg, or getting older and getting arthritis) he's going to gain all that weight back, and it will be PURE FAT.

As a rule of thumb I don't eat anything after 8pm .. Even if my calorie count is low.

But, I think this is a personal opinion and I'm definitely interested to see what others have to say about this!

Great thread, thanks!

not only silly but pointless...if i didnt eat after 8 id starve

It isn't silly or pointless... I rarely eat after 6pm and I don't starve and I go to bed around 11pm. You really shouldn't eat too terribly late anyway... in mine and my doctors opinion anyway.

Agreed. If you want to burn more fat, it is wise to go 12 to 14 hours without eating---you force your body to convert from burning stored glycogen to burning fat for fuel through the long hours when you are not eating. (You will sleep better too if you cut off eating 3 to 4 hours before bed---that is, unless you haven't eaten enough throughout the day and then you will be too hungry to sleep.) I try to eat the most fat of my day at dinner, as that is supposed to facilitate fat-burning through the night and keep me from being too hungry to sleep. I typically cut off eating at 7 p.m. and then, I will go til 9 a.m. the next day, before eating breakfast. I will even skip breakfast at least one morning a week in order to burn fat even longer. This fat-burning technique is called "intermittent fasting" and it has facilitated fat loss for me. I've lost 14 pounds and three inches off my waist. In the past, because of my ornery metabolism, I had to go below 1000 calories to even begin to see a reduction in my fat stores. Definitely not healthy--and it's exhausting, to boot. When I learned how and what to eat, it made a big difference. I am losing from my fat stores slowly (about 1 to 2 pounds per week) and so far, I don't think I have lost any lean tissue as I have been exercising more than I usually do when I diet and I seem to be getting stronger.

Enjoy, but no thank you. Eight hours of fasting is plenty for me. I would rather let my body guide me than a clock. I can usually go for an hour or two when I wake up, but when the belly says feed me, I obey. Also, I try to get in all my macros with each meal, spread them out. That would be hard for me to live by such a restrictive schedule.