You must eat breakfast if you want to lose weight

Thanks for the information. I'll start trying to eat breakfast with more protein now.

Okay, I'll play: If you want to lose weight, you MUST exercise.

Didn't read the whole OP because the subject line and first few sentences were just too silly. There are NO "musts" in weight loss.

You MUST eat a calorie deficit under TDEE for weight loss.

As someone already pointed out, this is not true. Just as eating less than TDEE is no guarantee of weight loss.

He didn't say it's a guarantee. He said it's a precondition.

must    /mʌst/ [muhst] auxiliary verb
1. to be obliged or bound to by an imperative requirement: I must keep my word.
2. to be under the necessity to; need to: Animals must eat to live.
3. to be required or compelled to, as by the use or threat of force: You must obey the law.
4. to be compelled to in order to fulfill some need or achieve an aim: We must hurry if we're to arrive on time.
5. to be forced to, as by convention or the requirements of honesty: I must say, that is a lovely hat.

Umm your point?
All those definitions prove my point - it's a precondition, NOT a guarantee.
ie. just because an animal eats doesn't mean it will live. Its head might get bitten off by a cougar. But if it doesn't eat at all it certainly won't live.

Nice try but come again.

point = If you "must" eat a deficit to lose weight then it is guaranteed that you won't lose weight without it. (which is not true)

True. I guess you can still lose weight while eating over TDEE - you can chop off a limb for example. Ok you got me! Please share how I can lose weight while eating more calories than I burn?

I keep asking him this, but he doesn't want to share his secret.

I eat breakfast because I am hungry when I wake up, it fits my lifestyle, and energizes me. These are the only reasons why someone should eat breakfast. If you have energy and are not hungry when you get up, there is no reason to eat breakfast at all.

Didn't read the whole OP because the subject line and first few sentences were just too silly. There are NO "musts" in weight loss.

You MUST eat a calorie deficit under TDEE for weight loss.

As someone already pointed out, this is not true. Just as eating less than TDEE is no guarantee of weight loss.

He didn't say it's a guarantee. He said it's a precondition.

must    /mʌst/ [muhst] auxiliary verb
1. to be obliged or bound to by an imperative requirement: I must keep my word.
2. to be under the necessity to; need to: Animals must eat to live.
3. to be required or compelled to, as by the use or threat of force: You must obey the law.
4. to be compelled to in order to fulfill some need or achieve an aim: We must hurry if we're to arrive on time.
5. to be forced to, as by convention or the requirements of honesty: I must say, that is a lovely hat.

Umm your point?
All those definitions prove my point - it's a precondition, NOT a guarantee.
ie. just because an animal eats doesn't mean it will live. Its head might get bitten off by a cougar. But if it doesn't eat at all it certainly won't live.

Nice try but come again.

point = If you "must" eat a deficit to lose weight then it is guaranteed that you won't lose weight without it. (which is not true)

True. I guess you can still lose weight while eating over TDEE - you can chop off a limb for example. Ok you got me! Please share how I can lose weight while eating more calories than I burn?

I keep asking him this, but he doesn't want to share his secret.

They could come back and say surgery (liposuction), or take a diuretic and lose water weight. That is weight loss without eating under TDEE, but misses the point that is trying to be made.

I am amazed at what a negative response the OP has had! I agree that "You must eat breakfast" might be quite a hard way of saying what works for him. I do think he is right. It is a well known fact that if you starve yourself your metabolism does slow down, 8 hours sleepis in effect an 8 hour fast and if you are trying to lose weight it is very likely you didnt eat before you went to bed. So where are you getting your energy from. Its likely you are cannibalizing your muscle mass and that isnt good for you. If you are trying to lose weight you really want to lose fat dont you? You dont want to lose muscle mass and fat. So you really should be into FAT loss not weight loss. Therefore you MUST eat regularly in order to keep your body living on its fat reserves and nothing else. The advantages here are easy to see no lean body mass is lost so your rate of fat loss must be greater. You will achieve your goals quicker. Give the guy a break Hes RIGHT!!

What do u mean U clown? omfg we have another one? doesnt wht I said make sense and if so why? I am puzzled. This is a forum on myfitnesspal insnt it? what people use to well achieve their goals with respect to weight loss, fitness?

You must eat breakfast if you want to lose weight

I dont eat before bed. So i dont have any of that what you described. I do get up at 5.30 A.M have breakfast and im in the gym for 6.30 so without it I would definitely be struggling and thats 6 times a week

I am amazed at what a negative response the OP has had! I agree that "You must eat breakfast" might be quite a hard way of saying what works for him. I do think he is right. It is a well known fact that if you starve yourself your metabolism does slow down, 8 hours sleepis in effect an 8 hour fast and if you are trying to lose weight it is very likely you didnt eat before you went to bed. So where are you getting your energy from. Its likely you are cannibalizing your muscle mass and that isnt good for you. If you are trying to lose weight you really want to lose fat dont you? You dont want to lose muscle mass and fat. So you really should be into FAT loss not weight loss. Therefore you MUST eat regularly in order to keep your body living on its fat reserves and nothing else. The advantages here are easy to see no lean body mass is lost so your rate of fat loss must be greater. You will achieve your goals quicker. Give the guy a break Hes RIGHT!!

Remember the food you ate the night before? Well it takes hours for that to digest and the energy to get into your system. And while you sleep your digestive system slows down, so it takes even longer for energy from the last food you ate to enter your system. Fasting for up to 24 hours is fine, after that you may run into some of the issues you describe.

So no, he is not right. It is the way he did it, but the reason he lost weight was that he was in a caloric deficit long enough to lose that much weight, it is that simple.

I know all that I been studying it for years. I do agree his post is rather full on and extreme but like I say it works very well for me and I agree. When I was boxing I had to lose weight to fight and I would starve and run before breakfast and eventually it left me drained tired and weak. Now Im in better shape and my training and diet routine works perfectly thats all I am saying I was surprised at the very negative comments made about the OP. I do agree with him not the bit about toast and ham .....YUCK!

I dont eat before bed. So i dont have any of that what you described. I do get up at 5.30 A.M have breakfast and im in the gym for 6.30 so without it I would definitely be struggling and thats 6 times a week

I am amazed at what a negative response the OP has had! I agree that "You must eat breakfast" might be quite a hard way of saying what works for him. I do think he is right. It is a well known fact that if you starve yourself your metabolism does slow down, 8 hours sleepis in effect an 8 hour fast and if you are trying to lose weight it is very likely you didnt eat before you went to bed. So where are you getting your energy from. Its likely you are cannibalizing your muscle mass and that isnt good for you. If you are trying to lose weight you really want to lose fat dont you? You dont want to lose muscle mass and fat. So you really should be into FAT loss not weight loss. Therefore you MUST eat regularly in order to keep your body living on its fat reserves and nothing else. The advantages here are easy to see no lean body mass is lost so your rate of fat loss must be greater. You will achieve your goals quicker. Give the guy a break Hes RIGHT!!

Remember the food you ate the night before? Well it takes hours for that to digest and the energy to get into your system. And while you sleep your digestive system slows down, so it takes even longer for energy from the last food you ate to enter your system. Fasting for up to 24 hours is fine, after that you may run into some of the issues you describe.

So no, he is not right. It is the way he did it, but the reason he lost weight was that he was in a caloric deficit long enough to lose that much weight, it is that simple.

yes but if you ate a 6 pm the night before it takes hours for that to finish digesting (most likely you are in bed while it is still digesting, so your body has that energy to use (live on) after you wake up.

......................However, I do eat breakfast because I know it's important!