You must eat breakfast if you want to lose weight
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Since there is so much fail, how about some win right here:
With breakfast, insulin output is disproportionate to the input (breakfast), due to cortisol. A mismatch that would otherwise not be present under different circumstances (i.e. the same meal eaten later in the day, with low cortisol, or by someone with lower insulin sensitivity).
All of this raises interesting questions regarding the role of the cortisol-insulin connection, or dare I say breakfast consumption, and adaptation (or absence thereof) in the role of human evolution and its consequences for modern man, with his modern meal patterns.
Very interesting indeed, when you consider the events that transpire on a metabolic and transcriptional level once you combine cortisol and insulin. Not to mention the role of cortisol in place preference conditioning, learning, and the fact that even though breakfast-first-thing-in-the-morning is an artificial habit, manufactured by one of the first and possibly largest giant of the food industry (The Kellogg’s Company), it certainly is a habit we learned very fast.
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My unicorn poops rainbows!0
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How can breakfast be wrong?
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My unicorn poops rainbows!
Regular, or low calorie?0 -
Listen, if ANY of you hope to lose any weight, you need to mail me a dollar. Some studies might have shown that people who have mailed me a dollar lost on average MORE weight than people who haven't. If you want to lose weight, you must mail me a dollar!0
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I try my best to eat breakfast. I feel, for me, that it wakes up my motabolism. But I hate the fact that I get hungry very soon after eating breakfast (hence the waking up my motabolism).0
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Didn't read the whole OP because the subject line and first few sentences were just too silly. There are NO "musts" in weight loss.
You MUST eat a calorie deficit under TDEE for weight loss.
As someone already pointed out, this is not true. Just as eating less than TDEE is no guarantee of weight loss.
He didn't say it's a guarantee. He said it's a precondition.
must /mʌst/ [muhst] auxiliary verb
1. to be obliged or bound to by an imperative requirement: I must keep my word.
2. to be under the necessity to; need to: Animals must eat to live.
3. to be required or compelled to, as by the use or threat of force: You must obey the law.
4. to be compelled to in order to fulfill some need or achieve an aim: We must hurry if we're to arrive on time.
5. to be forced to, as by convention or the requirements of honesty: I must say, that is a lovely hat.
Umm your point?
All those definitions prove my point - it's a precondition, NOT a guarantee.
ie. just because an animal eats doesn't mean it will live. Its head might get bitten off by a cougar. But if it doesn't eat at all it certainly won't live.
Nice try but come again.
point = If you "must" eat a deficit to lose weight then it is guaranteed that you won't lose weight without it. (which is not true)0 -
point = If you "must" eat a deficit to lose weight then it is guaranteed that you won't lose weight without it. (which is not true)
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Calories are calories ......... I DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU EAT THEM0
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I have lost weight both ways....at the moment it's working for me not to have any...on a work day I eat little and often...every two hours or so...I eat breakfast at weekend tho...0
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i have an OPINION as to what everyone else needs because its my OPINON! We are on an opinionated forum are we not?
yes. but now you're sounding like that EccentricDad guy.
I have an opinion, that is clearly wrong, can be disproven over and over, but I still hold onto it and put it on the forums.
Low Blow!!!! Let's try to keep it civil here, folks. No need mentioning Him Who Shall Not Be Named0 -
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This statement is true.false0 -
My unicorn poops rainbows!
Regular, or low calorie?
Low Calorie, but only if he's starved himself until noon.0 -
I believe it's crucial-at least to have a little something within an hour of waking up. There used to be a period of my life when I didn't eat breakfast because it would make me feel sick-that was when I happened to weigh the most in my life! Now breakfast is really mandatory for me, and it absolutely gets me ready to go for the day. I do agree with you on this one.0
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i have an OPINION as to what everyone else needs because its my OPINON! We are on an opinionated forum are we not?
yes. but now you're sounding like that EccentricDad guy.
I have an opinion, that is clearly wrong, can be disproven over and over, but I still hold onto it and put it on the forums.
Low Blow!!!! Let's try to keep it civil here, folks. No need mentioning Him Who Shall Not Be Named
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Hahahaaa.... sorry laughing at " You must eat breakfast if you want to lose weight" This may be true for you. I go at least 4-5 days a week without breakfast. I eat lunch and dinner, then snack and snack. I do eat the calories I would have had at breakfast.. but in the evening :-) On the days I do eat breakfast it doesnt sustain me any longer than when I don't, sometimes it awakens the hunger beast and I'm eating lunch earlier than normal. I've lost 32 lb not eating breakfast. Guess this shows we all are different and what works for some just doesn't for others.0
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Just as eating less than TDEE is no guarantee of weight loss.
How can it not be, eventually?
Sorry to revisit this, but you seem adamant about this.
Can you tell me how this would happen, in the long term, putting rare medical conditions aside?0 -
Calories are calories ......... I DOESN'T MATTER WHEN YOU EAT THEM
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but seriously. calories are calories is flat out wrong. protein/carbs/fat all work differently in your body.
and timing does matter.
start eating all of your food the minute you wake up each day and see how it goes for you................0 -
do what works for you! experiment!0
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My favorite part about this thread is
"I am SO bowing out of this thread" by like 3 different people.
2 pages later same people are still arguing.
OP very successful troll thread.0 -
calories are a "measurement" of energy. A calorie is a calorie as much as a foot is foot and a meter is a meter. You'll probably want to go to the approach of "body composition and macros" which i will agree with you on.
Oh you're talking about Timing? It doesn't matter. Lets use a 24hr window, with a macro nutritionist of 200g of carbs, 150g of protein 60g of fat.
They all produce a specific physiological response. The same amount of insulin will be produced if you eat 200g of carbs in 1 meal or through out the day, just one is "more insulin" at once. But at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Same goes for other macro nutrients as well.
In terms of body composition is what I was referring to.
Timing does matter in terms of body composition. Your body is more insulin sensitive at certain times of the day. Cortisol levels vary. GH levels vary...........................hormones have an effect on what your body does with food...that's their sole purpose. to overlook that is kidn of silly.
take a look at intermittent fasting and tell me why it works so well if the insulin response is the same and timing doesn't matter?
I backload my carbs, eating much more than I was a few weeks ago, but I'm losing fat...............0 -
My favorite part about this thread is
"I am SO bowing out of this thread" by like 3 different people.
2 pages later same people are still arguing.
OP very successful troll thread.
I left, then came back to read and saw where some idiot posted that insulin burns fat.........pissed me off and I was back.
I just can't leave.0 -
I just can't leave.
Nor should you!0 -
Listen, if ANY of you hope to lose any weight, you need to mail me a dollar. Some studies might have shown that people who have mailed me a dollar lost on average MORE weight than people who haven't. If you want to lose weight, you must mail me a dollar!
What's your address!?!?!?! I am looking for the most effective way to lose weight without doing anything!
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I just can't leave.
Nor should you!
clearly not gonna have a productive afternoon haha.
i finished reading the book I wanted to read today so i have a while to kill.0 -
clearly not gonna have a productive afternoon haha.
i finished reading the book I wanted to read today so i have a while to kill.
I hope that book was published recently0 -
I hope that book was published recently
I see what you did there, *kitten*.
2008. It's on strength training. from Louie Simmons.
so it's pretty much the Bible................
not gonna be outdated anytime soon.0 -
I think I'm going to like MFP. Really entertaining to read you guys...0
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