Eating back workout calories

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  • swat1948
    swat1948 Posts: 302 Member
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    I usually go a little over my 1240 calorie recommendation but not much. I have hypothyroidism and my metabolism is sluggish. I feel certain that I would lose very little if I ate much more due to past attempts to lose weight. That being said I never eat under 1200 and I drink lots of water.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
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    Always ate most of them while losing and maintaining, but recently switched to including my exercise into my daily goal so I eat the same amount every day, rather than bouncing around from 1800-2500.
  • awilmeri
    awilmeri Posts: 218 Member
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    I've been eating most of them. I don't go by what Mfp says I burned though, use an hrm. I have my activity set to sedentary which isn't always true. I weigh and measure all my food. For me this is not a short term solution. I'd rather steadily lose a small amount then lose it all only to gain it back. You have to do what you think is right. And I'm no scientist but I'm pretty sure you can't get nutrition without calories.
  • Zangpakto
    Zangpakto Posts: 336 Member
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    Is a myth really. Nutrition is what your body needs NOT calories. Quite funny how people seem to not understand that.

    Here is a question, do you know what a calorie actually represents? If not look it up. The concept is cool however it doesn't translate over to a human body quite the same...
    Your body doesn't need calories? :noway:

    Maybe came out wrong, but calorie is a measurement of the energy needed to heat up water by 1 degree. I'm certain our body doesn't directly heat up water constantly, in fact your metabolism uses "calories" to burn calories. That I never understood hence why I do not like going by calories. They can be inaccurate from the store even when your body is through with it. At least knowing the amount of macros to get I can work on that and not pay attention to calories :)

    Oh as for not needed calories? Rough estimate but I think there was a saying as 3m without air, 3 days no water and 3 weeks no food for your body to start eating/killing itself. Doubt too accurate that and would be many more factors, however I did go 2 weeks no food and was fine, used as fast for lent period and offered up to jesus. I raced during that period so had to break it off early, but I had no problems after day 2/3... I'm sure I could have gone 20-30 days if it wasn't for my race.

    Also on a technical aspect.. no we never need calories, we need food :P some days plenty others not :)
  • Zangpakto
    Zangpakto Posts: 336 Member
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    Is a myth really. Nutrition is what your body needs NOT calories. Quite funny how people seem to not understand that.

    Here is a question, do you know what a calorie actually represents? If not look it up. The concept is cool however it doesn't translate over to a human body quite the same...

    Also like I said in previous reply, I can burn up to 3000 calories a day on training runs. According to most people with TDEE and all this rubbish, I would need to eat close to 5000 calories on training days! Not realistic AT ALL!

    Dude the only reason MFP makes us eat exercise calories back is that we've already got a deficit built in. You don't eat back a small percentage of what you burn you're just turning that deficit into a gaping hole so your body is running on basically nothing. If you're hitting your goal calories a day, great, but if you're under your goal then exercise on top of that you're going to be in trouble and end up losing weight in a bad way.

    Please stop this, "Look at my horse, my horse is amazing" pretentious BS.

    Everyone has different opinions, what works for some people doesn't always work for others.

    Sure, then eat crap and make your calorie goals for all I care. As if you train hard the only way your going to is by eating junk really.

    By eating healthy foods, your not going to come close to 4500 calories without a struggle. And even if you did, no point as your body does not have the genetic capacity to absorb massive amounts of nutrients in one go. Hence why dieticians recommend a few smaller meals broken up.

    But hey, medical biology is stupid and incorrect and even though blood is tracked along with hormones and markers it is wrong. Only opinions matter on MFP right? That essentially what your saying.

    My point is that while we do differ in some aspects, the human body and it's capacities to absorb is still a human body. We can change how our bodies use fats proteins and carbs etc, however their absorption rate isn't going to differ.

    If you want to argue about something, read up on human anatomy... it is really interesting. MFP is full of bs opinions with no medical science behind them, that is a fact not opinion. That is why you say what works for one person wont work for another, because there is no science behind your methodology hence the varying results.

    People get so arsey on this. Go channel your energy into your training dude. It was a nice simple topic asked to deduce what everyones stance and opinion was on eating back exercise calories. Its fairly simple - do what your body tells you to. Burning 3000 calories a day isnt your 'everyday' I am presuming so Im sure you could help your body out preparing and repairing on the day before and after your big burn training days. Most people do that. It would in my opinion too be very hard to eat 5000 calories but realistically most people would probably aim to hit 3000 that day and maybe fit in 500-700 more the day before (prep) and 500-700 the day after (repair).
    That way you are getting stronger and faster. No need for junk either, plenty of healthy fats like adding olive oil to meals, nutritious seeds and nuts for snacks and some extra milk/cheese/even a protein shake would probably hit it with ease.

    Im not saying this really for you, coz you appear to know everything about everything but it might be informative to others. :)

    Yep I eat more the few days before a race after depletion of my glycogen stores as part of carbo loading phase :)

    In next week or so I am going to be training normally again and that is running 5-6 times a week, sometimes double sessions one in morning, one in afternoon.

    You sound cool, would ask if you could join me for a morning run and we could debate and talk about this further haha

    I do know a lot, because as a programmer, technician I need know about computers and I love my fitness that I buy books relating to subject, I buy anything relating to it really, read up on it for fun etc and currently writing my own personal trainer app for iPhone/iPad/Mac :)
  • 05saleengirl
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    The harder and later my workout is, yes, some of them. I have been doing c25k late at night and end up really hungry after. So yes, I have been eating some back
  • Hendrix7
    Hendrix7 Posts: 1,903 Member
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    I know right? That is why when body builders cut down and eat below TDEE which is a big no no here they turn into weeds and stick figures for competitions right? I mean they just LOSE all that muscle using a PSMF type diet netting 600-800calories usually a day for a few weeks!

    terrible analogy,.

    Doing something for a few weeks and doing something over a long period of time are totally diffident.

    Even drug assisted bodybuilders will lose some mass during a contest prep phase.
  • torrini
    torrini Posts: 78 Member
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    I didn't at first but then I wasn't losing any weight either. Now I do and I lose. My daily goal is 1520 and I couldn't function with less.
  • Zangpakto
    Zangpakto Posts: 336 Member
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    I know right? That is why when body builders cut down and eat below TDEE which is a big no no here they turn into weeds and stick figures for competitions right? I mean they just LOSE all that muscle using a PSMF type diet netting 600-800calories usually a day for a few weeks!

    terrible analogy,.

    Doing something for a few weeks and doing something over a long period of time are totally diffident.

    Even drug assisted bodybuilders will lose some mass during a contest prep phase.

    Yea likely not the best, but you got the point of it... I mean not everyone has loads of weight to go to be in ideal range.

    Yes they will lose some muscle mass, however the most important factor is how long they have been lifting as muscle memory plays a big part in gaining the mass back after. Much more so than genetics etc. So that little you lose, you will gain back without much effort if you train right and eat correct after the cutting phase.

    I understand your concern however...
    As most people here need more than say 30 lbs to lose. a 3 week PSMF you can expect about 20 lbs roughly lost. Some water however, but still, there are some here that need 200lbs etc maybe 100 and I would never recommend that diet for them as for that long time it wouldn't be healthy at all and they wouldn't be solving the underlying overeating issue.

    I just pointed out that it works and it works well at what it does. If your not in ideal range and just on the verge of getting into the range, it will help a lot as you likely know what to change for food and wont be on the diet for a long time to get where you want to be.

    Besides, eating at a deficit to lose VS eating enough to be anabolic is also a bad analogy that people use. You are losing weight and not getting enough calories to be in an anabolic phase. You maybe can offset the muscle mass, in newbies you can still gain, and you will gain strength however once your out the newbie phase, you wont gain mass on a deficit. So yes, even the normal "diets" people take they will lose muscle mass and that is unavoidable.

    However PSMF has been a tried and tested method for cutting down to weight with minimal muscle loss over the short period.
  • SueGremlin
    SueGremlin Posts: 1,066 Member
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    I always always eat them. I am not on any diet. I am just paying attention to my caloric intake and am in no particular hurry to reach my goal, which is about 15 more lbs. I suspect it'll take me another year, and that is fine by me. I am comfortable with the way I am eating right now. If I didn't eat them, I'd be hungry and that's no way to live. This is the way I eat for the long haul. I am not gonna torture myself. So far, it's worked out quite well for me if I don't say so myself. :wink:
  • happiimilk
    happiimilk Posts: 44 Member
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    I try not to since I feel like if I ate them back, it would defeat the purpose of having burned any of my calories.
  • nicleed
    nicleed Posts: 247 Member
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    I set my goals to lose .5 pound a week, but that is just so I know what my cushion is if I eat out etc. I want to lose about a pound a week, so I tend to not eat back exercise cals, But I do eat when I am hungry.

    When I had it set for a pound a week, I always ate them back - otherwise I felt deprived.

    Just my little way of tricking myself :)

    (FWIW, I only needed to lose about 20 pounds at the start of MFP and have 11 to go)
  • brevislux
    brevislux Posts: 1,093 Member
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    I do my best but if I'm not hungry then I don't. It's best to eat them, I believe.

    Edit: keep in mind MFP is really generous estimating the calories you burn though.
  • Naija82
    Naija82 Posts: 345 Member
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    I would never eat back my workout calories. Working out for someone like me is a living hell, I'm not sure if it gets any better as you lose weight, but I know I didn't just go through something that hard to just go and throw it in the trash.

    Those extra calories I'm burning are attributing to my calorie deficit, which the bigger the better. If you REALLY love food and are willing to give up that extra calorie deficit, feel free, but I wouldn't be caught dead doing that to myself. But I'm also in a situation that the faster I lose weight the better.

    The faster you lose weigh the more likely it is you will be losing muscle especially if you are not refuelling properly after your workouts. Sometimes I wonder how hard people are actually exercising as I'm literally starving after my workouts and 1200 kcals is not enough. That's my 2 cents.
  • Naija82
    Naija82 Posts: 345 Member
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    I was asking the same thing I have been doing everything but not sure if eatting back the calories is a good thing I've been doing this since Aug 19th and it tells me that I should be down 10 pounds and it has been way longer the 5 weeks yet nothing has happen not even a pound .. I'm getting real upset. What I'm I doing wrong?

    Eating back your calories for the day is a good way to ruin your weight loss goals. No paper or diet has ever stressed eating back your exercise calories. If someone has a paper that says otherwise then i would glady be openminded enough to read it. It's a MyFitnessPal myth.

    Ruin your weight loss goals? Really I haven't seen mine ruined and the inches are still dropping. What I think you don't understand is MFP has already created a deficit for you while most other diets tend to incorporate calories from physical activity into your calorie goal. You can't tell me you think someone who goes for a 10 mile run, does some weight training and burns around 1200 kcals should not eat back their calories.