Hi, im Sue and I am Super Obese - i am scared of dieting.

Hi Everyone,

My name is Sue and I am from the South West of the UK. I am currently 151 kgs, and have a BMI of 52. I had a go at the Body Fat Calculator and there is now officially more fat on my body than my actual body would weigh without it.

I have Chronic Obstructive Sleep Apnea, Asthma, and now Type 2 Diabetes. The Diabetes is the final straw really, its the disease that has made me determined to lose some weight for health reasons. My doctors have given me Orlistat but it has taken several days for me to consider even touching it, and although I started my diet today I still could not take it before my breakfast.

I woke up feeling ok, but the moment I looked at the Orlistat on the shelf ready for me to take, I started to feel Nausea and Dizzy and had to dash to the bathroom. I was not sick at all and after a while the symptoms have started to recede. I know I have always looked upon my body fat as a security blanket that keeps people away from me and also I feel it protects me from others because if I project a mean exterior people will tend to avoid me, and I suppose that has been given me some strange sense of comfort and power. I just never realised that my sub conscious would try to protect me by hijacking my diet and lets face it, I need to lose this weight, I don't have much choice if I want to be around to see my children become adults with their own families etc. I also have a special needs son of 14 that I really must be there for.

What on earth is wrong with me, I have gone on diets before and not had this reaction so why is this happening now? I'm not sure what I should do about this, I am going to arrange some Cognitive therapy with my doctor but if anyone else can think of anything that might be worth a try, please let me know.

In the meantime, Any help or tips for weight loss or keeping my spirits up would be greatly appreciated.

Sue.
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  • trixiemou
    trixiemou Posts: 554 Member
    Hi Sue,

    It is good that you are making a start on this. Why are you frightened of using the Orlistat? I just had a quick look on google and there is plenty of information on there about it. Do you trust your doctor......... Or is it just starting to use and all the positive things it may help bring about that worries you?

    It doesn't have to be about dieting, it can be about changing your lifestyle!

    You can do it! x
  • zachatta
    zachatta Posts: 1,340 Member
    Hi Sue my name is Zach.

    I have lost 80 lbs. The only thing that I can tell you is you have to be ready to change your life.

    There is no temporary diet, and then going back to eating how you did.

    You must make the lifestyle change that says you are ready to eat healthy. (Moderation is

    what I consider healthy, not "whole foods")

    Once you make that decision, track your calories (using this site) and everything becomes 100% easier.

    If you don't make that decision, you will always fall back to your old ways.

    As far as losing what you have, time and consistency. That is what it takes.

    Don't get impatient, just know you are starting a long journey.

    Good luck, I hope you achieve your goals.
  • Smokey19
    Smokey19 Posts: 796 Member
    If you trust your doctor I would take the orlistat. I was always like you. Being obese kept people away from me. But at the age of 44 I had a major wake-up call when I had a heart attack and had to have open heart surgery. I also have asthma, sleep apnea, and diabetes type 2. Please don't be scared of all of this. This site really helps you understand what you eat and why you eat it. Everyone here is so supportive. Please feel free to add me. I lost my weight in a year.
  • diver71_au
    diver71_au Posts: 424 Member
    Hi Sue .... you need to just do it. You have already said that you want to be around for your children - use that as your motivator. Everyone on here is supportive BUT it is still YOU that has to decide what you are going to do.

    Take it step by step .... literally and figuratively. Start with small adjustments to your diet ... but keep adjusting and don't forget to add some exercise - I started with just some short walks when I first began.

    I know that it can be difficult to find the energy for exercise but you need to push yourself until it becomes a habit. Once you reach that point you will feel bad on the days when you don't exercise and your body will begin to reject the bad foods that you used to use as a crutch.

    Are you on CPAP ? I was diagnosed with sleep apnea around 4 years ago with an AHI of 67. Last month my sleep doc declared me cured - thanks to around a 40kg weight loss.
  • thatjulesgirl
    thatjulesgirl Posts: 200 Member
    I know I have always looked upon my body fat as a security blanket that keeps people away from me and also I feel it protects me from others because if I project a mean exterior people will tend to avoid me, and I suppose that has been given me some strange sense of comfort and power. I just never realised that my sub conscious would try to protect me by hijacking my diet and lets face it, I need to lose this weight,

    Sue - firstly: CONGRATS on finally making the decision to see your problem for what it is, choose to change, and seek the help and support to do so. I know that seems like a simple thing, but it's really not, it's probably half the battle in my experience so you're already taking huge leaps forward. Good on you and stick with it.

    So much of what you said rings very true for me too, and I have a sneaking suspicion that there are a lot of us overweight / obese people out there who've used the weight as a sort of forcefield to keep people away. I've always said that "the irony of weight is that the bigger you get, the more invisible you become". I also have noticed an alarmingly common connection between a history of trauma / abuse and weight gain. Something to think about, perhaps.

    I'm not going to profess to be some guru - I too, have just started my journey and have probably a similar amount to lose as you. So far I've lost 6 kilos, without even really trying that hard, so I'm starting to realise that it can be done. The way I see it is this: it took several years of consistent, dedicated over-eating and NOT exercising to put this weight on, so it's going to take a few years of consistent, dedicated mindful eating and exercising to take it off. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. And if you're anything like me, the fastest way to sabotage yourself is demanding perfection, eg. "Well I've already had two biscuits so today is a write-off, I might as well have a pie" etc. At first, at least, it doesn't matter if you have the occasional slip; if today is 20% better than yesterday, you're improving. Tomorrow might be 20% better again, until eventually the right food choices will come naturally and the exercise will be second nature. Even now, a month in, I'm finding myself more comfortable in my new routine so I don't have to fight to motivate myself as much.

    As far as the mental / emotional side of this goes, you're right - you'll probably need help. Having said that, the feelings you've described and the physical reactions you've had I can so relate to: it's those feelings that made me realise that this time was different. It wasn't me trying another diet out of shame or guilt or pressure from other people. It was like a switch had flipped in my head. I realised that I value my life and I value my body so I wanted to make a real change and treat myself right. It wasn't a diet, it was a new way of living and it was no longer negotiable.

    I hope some of what I've said helps, Sue. Please feel free to add me. I'm finding the support of MFP invaluable and I think you will too - it's important to know you're not the only one who's struggling, or learning new and weird things about yourself. A book I read years ago actually helped me put it all into perspective a bit, and it's actually pretty funny, so I've added a link in case you're looking for some encouragement. I definitely think you should follow up with your doctor, too... and the therapy sounds like a great idea (I'm getting some and it's making a world of difference).

    Lastly: GOOD LUCK!

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Girls-Guide-Losing-Weight-Getting/dp/1863255168/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1349078922&sr=8-9
  • nonafit
    nonafit Posts: 582 Member
    Hi Sue my name is Zach.

    I have lost 80 lbs. The only thing that I can tell you is you have to be ready to change your life.

    There is no temporary diet, and then going back to eating how you did.

    ^^ thissss!!
    If you really want it and ready for it...than there's nothing will stop you. Otherwise everything that comes your way will be an excuse to go to your old ways. The 1st couple of weeks (or months) will be really challenging and after that you will get the grip of it. Remember you are moving out of your comfort zone. Some can change cold turkey and some does it at a gentle transition. Plan it and stick with it. Good luck.
  • Diane_K
    Diane_K Posts: 3 Member
    Hi Sue
    I too have type 2 diabetes and take medication for this as well as colesterol lowering tablets and blood pressure tablets as they go hand in hand. When i first started to lose weight i ballooned to 90kg (am only 154cms tall) due to hormone imbalance and has taken 12mths to get down to 72kgs. I had come to the cross roads of loss of motivation but i have a grandbaby now and that was a real wake up call to give it another go to reach my all time goal.
    Your doctor is there to help and support you as is your care planning nurse for your diabetes, take all help and advice on board as they do care and will help you make a difference.
    We are all here too so if times seem tough reach out and chat and we will be there to listen and support you in your journey.
    This is my first day as a member of this site and i already feel that there are a lot of people out there all with similar stories so chin up and just do your best,
    and Remember Arnie Schwarternager words from his movie
    YOU CAN DO IT
    Di
  • WaterBunnie
    WaterBunnie Posts: 1,371 Member
    Hi Sue. My BMI was higher than yours when I started and is currently 50.8. If you'd like to add me as a friend I'll be here for quite some time too!

    ( Except for the next fortnight because we leave for a holiday today)
  • HappyandToned
    HappyandToned Posts: 49 Member
    Hi Sue!

    Hypnotherapy worked wonders for me on more than one occasion.

    Feel free to add me if you need support!

    Ana
  • lanie37
    lanie37 Posts: 204 Member
    Hi Sue, and welcome to your new life. Dont think of this as a diet, thats the path the failure. This is a lifestyle change something you will be doing for the rest of your life. Little steps lead to big achievements. As said earlier start walking, going a little further and quicker each time.
    Logging your food on here everyday and being truthful with yourself about what you are eating will help. Its amazing what rubbish we eat without thinking about it. I am/was a comfort eater, when i feel the urge to raid the fridge or cupboard I read success stories on here, the feeling soon passes.
    Good luck with your weightloss, if you are worried about the side effects of the tablets just remeber they are only reacting to what you are eating. If you eat lost of fat then yes you will have the nasty side effects of wind and needing the loo, but they are no worse than metaformin used to treat diabetics.
    Feel free to add me as a friend.
  • Ralphrabbit
    Ralphrabbit Posts: 351 Member
    Start today, with or without meds it does not matter! One day at a time........
    I think most over-eaters have a whole bunch of emotional reasons for it and I would recommend counselling to help deal with theses as it was not until I did this did I have the head success that I have now.
    In the mean time one day at a time............ you can do this!!

    I was 49 and had a BMI of 49.
    Now 51 and have a BMI of 37.
    If I can do it anyone can!!
  • takehimaway
    takehimaway Posts: 499 Member
    Hi Sue.
    I'm scared of changing, too, but we can do this.
    <3
  • tonkabella
    tonkabella Posts: 24 Member
    Hi Sue.... All of the reply's are true.... this you can do... little by little, bit by bit. No quick fixes ... no dropping 10 kilos in a couple of days..... just like a baby learning to walk make this life style change.... go from sitting still to crawling, then walking, then jogging and eventually you will be running... figuratively speaking. The more weight you loose the more confident you will become and your security blanket of fat will no longer be required. Add me if you wish.
    Good luck with your journey
  • NeverGivesUp
    NeverGivesUp Posts: 960 Member
    One foot in front of the other!! It is a hard, but wonderful and fun journey so there is no need to be scared. Finding great friends for support is key and you will get inspired by them every day. This site is addictive just to warn you!!. You can do this!! Happy weight loss. You will look back someday saying wow look at how far I have come!!
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    ...I woke up feeling ok, but the moment I looked at the Orlistat on the shelf ready for me to take, I started to feel Nausea and Dizzy and had to dash to the bathroom. I was not sick at all and after a while the symptoms have started to recede. I know I have always looked upon my body fat as a security blanket that keeps people away from me and also I feel it protects me from others...

    Hi, Sue. It sounds like you had a panic attack. Have you seen a doctor/therapist about an assessment for anxiety? Anxiety/panic could be the biggest obstacle to your progress. This kind of stress is very harmful to your health over time - and may be just as harmful as obesity. Please see if you can get some help for that. Once you get your anxiety under control you should find everything in life becomes easier. Good luck! :flowerforyou:
  • Hi I've struggled with my weight for quite a while. when I was a bit younger I lost just over 3 stone, I was so much happier and the difference in my health was massive but I gradually put it back on and more over the last 3 years. I've finally reached breaking point again and I no I need to do something about it again now. I've found this website really helpful, it was actually recommended by my doctor and I'm so glad he did. I've tried lots of different diets which worked whilst using them but once I stopped the weight plus more came back on. This in my eyes is the best way to lose weight. It makes you more aware of what you're actually eating. When I first logged in I thought I was eating healthy but when I logged it in I was massively over on calories because my portions had become huge. It's quite an eye opener really. So far I've lost 15lbs in just over a month, it's definitly worked. I've been on orlistat too, it's not pleasant but it does work. I think it worked best in the first month I used it, I have stopped using it now because after the first month the benefits don't really outweigh the side effects but I think it's a good kick start!
    I haven't started seeing the benefits of losing weight yet but speaking from past experiences it's soo worth it, I used to suffer with back pain, knee pains, shortness of breath etc etc and they all went when the weight went. All I can say is you need to be ready to do this but once you start you'll be so glad you did it. You are doing this for you! I hope this has given you a good view of what this website can do for you but I can't really help you in getting started, ultimately you need to be the one that does this so you need to be in the right frame of mind. Good luck and I hope this works for you :)
  • AliciaStaton
    AliciaStaton Posts: 328 Member
    Hi Sue welcome to the begining of your new life. Its all new and it must be scary but it sounds like you are on the right path. Please keep to the advice to what your doctor is doing, no matter how long your weight loss takes, you need to do it. Your right too many of us who are overweight/obese use our weight as a comfort and we dont realise the damage we are doing to us. If you wish to add me please feel free, if not good luck on your journey:bigsmile:
  • Hello Sue! The only advice I can give to you is to not make this a quick fix and ONLY make this a life style change :) One lifestyle plan that helped save my life from anorexia is from Forks over Knives. It is for anyone. It heals your body and it will cure you from your diseases most likely. Also if you are not into Plant-Based Foods, then maybe just look into cutting down portions :) Uh, but you should really try looking into Forks Over Knives, Fat SICK &Nearly Dead, Vegucated, and Engine 2 diet. But I realize it is not for everyone. Good Luck! :)
  • alumpoflard
    alumpoflard Posts: 95 Member
    Just wanted to stop by and wish you luck. I'm also 44yrs old and it's taken me until now to finally start losing the weight.( I also have a special needs kid and the weight loss so far has made it a lot easier to keep up with him)

    Keep using this site, log in every day - even if you have a bad day. Add friends- this really helps! Before you know it you will be a couple of stone down, with a great support network and wondering what you was scared off...

    You can do it :flowerforyou:
  • aredrose017
    aredrose017 Posts: 7 Member
    Hi Sue, it can all seem so overwhelming at first! That may be why you are afraid of dieting. To be honest though, I wouldn't even diet. It's more about a healthy lifestyle. I have gone on so many diets for the past four years, constantly losing weight and gaining it back and then some; I just got tired of diets and decided I need to change my mindset. I'm now developing a healthier lifestyle and you can do it too! Sometimes it helps to think why you're eating also. I'm an emotional/boredom eater, so I've been drinking water instead when I am stressed, or even having something healthy to snack on. If you just stick to it, and don't give up; you will achieve your goals! Just take it bit by bit, and gradually, you will get to where you want to be. Also, keeping track of what food you consume really can help. Diets can be scary, so you're not alone, but if you look at it as more of a change of life than a diet, I think you will be just fine. I wish you the best of luck :)
  • MrsWonderland
    MrsWonderland Posts: 107 Member
    Hi Sue, Im still pretty much new at this. I understand the weight keeping people away from you. I used to be that way, then I met my husband and he didnt care about my weight and he somehow got past the wall I had put up. Weve been married 5yrs and now I want to lose the weight before I get health problems. I dont want to have to deal with the medication and want to feel good about myself.

    Set a small goal for yourself and make some friends here. I have some wonderful supportive friends. Try not to think about losing the weight since that scares you, think about getting healthy for yourself and your kids. Think about feeling better and healthier, so you can do more with your kids. And then wont have to worry about medications and other health problems.

    I still dont know what all is really healthy, but I am learning to eat better and workout. If you like to dance thats a great workout. Your a mom and I know you love your kids they need you healthy not sick. Look at them and think about how much they need you. You can add me if you'd like to, I will do my best to be supportive, sometimes I still dont always know what to say. But if you wanna even talk about your fears I would be here for you. It is really a one day at a time prosses, we fall and get back up. If you dont feel motivation look at your kids. I wish you the best and I know you can do this.
  • lkcuts
    lkcuts Posts: 224
    Go all the way! fill out the rest of your profile, why you want to lose weight etc, use your diary, add friends all are on here for support because we all need it!
    As far as being scared of a diet, you should be MORE scared of the diabetes.
    My late husband refused to eat right when his blood sugar came on and I watched him die a slow death.
    It started with his eyes where the sugar caused his vision to go down to the point where he had to have a 52 inch TV to even see it..
    His was in pain in his lower body where nerve damage set in causing the blood not to flow to his legs and feet. Eventually, his toes rotted and burst,, His legs went next and they had to amputate them one at a time and he was in a wheel chair.
    Lastly, his kidneys shut down and he had to go on a machine to get rid of the toxins in his body.
    In the end, it wasn't working anymore (they say they last about 2 years using it) and He died from the major organs just being destroyed by it.
    He lost a bunch of weight that got the diabetes in control but it was too late. It had already done its damage. PLEASE! if you care for your family DO THIS! Diabetes will show little things happening and over time that cannot be reversed. What CAN be reversed is the type II diabetes.... just by losing the weight. I wish you all the luck because life is precious.. especially to your family who need you and I know love you very much.
  • poedunk65
    poedunk65 Posts: 1,336 Member
    You don't go on a diet, you have to make a lifestyle change. It will not happen overnight either. You didn't gain the weinght in just a few months, you won't lose it any faster either.

    You have to be consistent and diligent in making changes.

    Good luck to you.
  • Eddie274
    Eddie274 Posts: 156
    Sue, I've sent you a request as I'd like to help you along your journey.

    I was on Orlistat and although it's unpleasant if you eat something fatty it was not a problem to me at all, and it did help me. I stopped taking it as I lost motivation to lose weight.

    If your doctor thinks it may help you then go for it, as it can only help you. It certainly told me when I'd been naughty!!

    Hope you accept my request and I'll give you all the support I can.

    Eddie
  • RhonndaJ
    RhonndaJ Posts: 1,615 Member
    Hi Sue,

    Congratulations on facing up to your situation honestly and for taking the first steps towards change.

    While I don't have your health issues we're not so far apart in other ways. And like others have said, I certainly don't have all the answers even though I've been doing this for a while now. What I do know, however, is that it can succeed at this. It may not be quick or easy, but it can happen.

    it kind of makes sense that you're scared about trying the Orlistat. It might well represent a successful way to lose weight and therefore it's a threat to your comfort zone and the shield you've wrapped around yourself. Let's face it, for those of us who are super obese, and frankly a lot of people who aren't, the biggest challenge is our own thoughts, conscious and subconscious.

    In the same theme, I wonder who you view the term 'diet'. For me it's always had negative connotations, so I stopped thinking of this as a diet. It's merely a change. I'm not depriving myself, I'm making better choices because I want to be healthier. I'm not cutting everything 'bad' out, because I want to be able to sustain this change for the rest of my life, but I also know that I'm going to be a work in progress probably for the rest of my life. I'm good with this.

    Something else that can help is to set yourself small goals, maybe even really tiny ones, and I don't even mean weight loss goals, just anything that you can add up as successes, because the more you get, the stronger your confidence in yourself becomes. At the same time, you can't beat yourself up over perceived failures. Only giving up is failing, everything else is just a sign that you need a bit more work.

    Anyway, I apparently can ramble this morning. If you'd like me as a friend, you're more than welcome to send a request. I'm not perfect, but I'm here and I do my best to support my friends.

    R
  • Dying2Live84
    Dying2Live84 Posts: 154 Member
    Loving all this support people are giving you. You can do this.... it will be hard and won't happen overnight but the benefits will be life changing.

    xxx
  • pink_and_twinkly
    pink_and_twinkly Posts: 19 Member
    Hello Sue,

    I started my 'journey' about 11 weeks ago weighing 295 pounds.
    I have tried dieting numerous times, but never made it past the first couple of weeks. I was also offered tablets by my Dr.

    Of course I wanted to be slim, but I didn't want it enough to actually do anything about it.
    I knew who I was;
    The fat girl. I was unthreatening. I had my role in life.
    Changing that was a really big hurdle.
    Something I couldn’t manage.
    Until now.

    For some reason; this time it clicked.

    I'd never heard of MFP before, but it works for me.
    It’s easy - I can eat what I want as long as I log it. I’m not a massive fan of fruit and veggies or healthy eating. I can’t really cook; and am so sooooo fussy. But I am getting better.
    My only rule is that I pre-log everything.
    This means I am making informed choices; I can instantly see how a little ‘treat’ will affect my day. Sometimes I still have that treat; other times I eat less, or something different for less calories.

    This is really working for me; 30lbs down and feeling like I can actually lose the weight.

    I really hope this works for you too - explore the site/app and make some friends,

    I'm happy for any friend requests; really like the ‘community’ here, and I’m always lurking around and I’m a nosey cow so love reading peoples diaries!

    Amy
    x
  • Dear Sue,
    I had tears in my eyes reading your post. I am so terribly sorry that it has come to this for you.
    So what to do from here = well, you have already started! See that wasn't so hard :)
    Follow your doctors orders, it wont always be like this, but lets keep you under doctors orders for now.
    Find a menu plan that suits you and follow it.
    Find some online MFP friends, blog every day, keep your food and exercise diary, good or bad.
    Go for a walk every day, maybe even smile :happy: at a stranger or two.
    And just take one day at a time.

    Life isn't about finding yourself; life is about CREATING yourself.

    Good luck, we are always here to help.
  • AnneC77
    AnneC77 Posts: 284
    Hi Sue, I am Annie. I recently joined MFP mainly because I am Morbidly Obese. My Mum is too and she was diagnosed with Diabetes last year. She did not look after herself through diet and ended up in hospital earlier this year with Pneumonia and a bad Diabetes trip (not sure of the right names for this) but now she is insulin dependent whereas she would have been able to control it by diet alone. I did not want to get this and so here I am.

    I wanted to say firstly that I think you are incredibly brave to write this post, it seemed a very honest and genuine post and I can tell that you are terrified, but there really is no need to be. You have had the shock and health scare that brought you here and you are using that to better yourself. I really believe that you can do this! You obviously want it enough. I wont really give you any advice because others have pretty much said it better than I could have anyways, but I just wanted to wish you all the luck in the World for your new journey. Let's do this together xxx
  • jensfitpal2012
    jensfitpal2012 Posts: 145 Member
    Sue,
    First let me say,I am proud of you!:)The first step is wanting to make the change,you have really good reasons/motivators to change:for your health,your family and your overall sense of well being.It"s good you are going to some cognitive therapy,this will help alot. As for it being a diet,I agree with the others,"IT NEEDS TO BE A LIFESTYLE CHANGE,NOT A DIET. Diets are temporary and only provide temporary results,been there,done that,does not work. Take each day one moment at a time,start making healthier choices,give yourself some breaks,you can treat yourself,just lower your portions. The best motivator is exercise,start by walking on treadmill at a slow pace,then increase your pace/time. You will find as you start to exercise,you will be more motivated,it's a natural energy and mood booster. As for the meds,I would take them.I don't have Diabetes,but I have insulin resistence with PCOS,meds help you. Look into Glycemic Index Diet,hated the word diet.Helps you know what foods to eat to better help with insulin problems.I try to stay away from a lot of carbs from grains,eat more protein and vegetables,if I eat carbs,use lower glycemic ones.I found I use alot of self defeating talk,so it helped me to put positive quotes up on fridge,on bathroom mirror,keeps me thinking positive and moving forward.Tell yourself,"I CAN DO THIS!"You have alot of people on MFP who can continue to support you,keep talking and keep trying your best every day.When you fall,get back up,that's the most important part,beacuse we all fall.I BELEIVE IN YOU<BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. Feel free to add me as a friend. Best of luck to you in your new way of living!:)