Jumping off of LiveStrong's sinking ship!

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  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member
    For someone who has just joined MFP, I doubt you have made a very good first impression.

    What has your dislike of Lance Armstrong got to do with your presence here anyway?

    Welcome to MFP! :flowerforyou:

    Fortunately i get way more out of antagonizing than acceptance

    Read some of the posts from before...I already explaned why Lance came up in this thread.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member

    No, i get your point. You're saying that no matter how bad of a person you are and no matter how self-serving your motivation for doing something nice might be, it doesn’t undo the nice gesture. In way yes, you are right. But I don’t want to eat a piece of cake make by a chef that only wishes to make money or notoriety for himself. I want to eat the cake made by a chef that cooks for the love of cooking and the love of his audience. Do you get what I'm saying now?

    And I dont think you have at all grasped the depth of his disgusting behavior. This is a man that HIRED PEOPLE to talk nice about him and get him alligned w/ obama. And why? Do pad his wallet. You are really picking the wrong person to fight for here. Yes he did something things for cancer research and raising money for cancer...whatever...i'll give you that. But to say that his actions have been MOTIVATING? Nothing could be furhter for the truth. There is NOTHING motivating about doing nice things simply to elevate yourself or make yourself money.

    Lol, wait... this comment, newly joined status, clear and obvious agenda...

    You almost got me, you silly boy.
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    I have an agenda? Here i just thought i hated lance armstrong for being a penis...who knew? :P
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    Oh, using human anatomy as an insult, too? You're too good.
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member

    No, i get your point. You're saying that no matter how bad of a person you are and no matter how self-serving your motivation for doing something nice might be, it doesn’t undo the nice gesture. In way yes, you are right. But I don’t want to eat a piece of cake make by a chef that only wishes to make money or notoriety for himself. I want to eat the cake made by a chef that cooks for the love of cooking and the love of his audience. Do you get what I'm saying now?

    And I dont think you have at all grasped the depth of his disgusting behavior. This is a man that HIRED PEOPLE to talk nice about him and get him alligned w/ obama. And why? Do pad his wallet. You are really picking the wrong person to fight for here. Yes he did something things for cancer research and raising money for cancer...whatever...i'll give you that. But to say that his actions have been MOTIVATING? Nothing could be furhter for the truth. There is NOTHING motivating about doing nice things simply to elevate yourself or make yourself money.

    Lol, wait... this comment, newly joined status, clear and obvious agenda...

    You almost got me, you silly boy.


    I have an agenda? Here i just thought i hated lance armstrong for being a penis...who knew? :P
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    Oh, using human anatomy as an insult, too? You're too good.
    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    Too many beers? :drinker:
  • SopranogirlCa
    SopranogirlCa Posts: 188 Member
    Cute puppy Sopranogirl :) Are you a musician?

    No, Soprano-TV show fan. I actually can't carry a tune to save my life.
  • I try to separate the man from the cause. While I'm sad (but actually, not very surprised) that Lance was doping, I do think he started a worthwhile organization which does a lot of good. Unless I hear that his organization was complicate in this (which I doubt), I'll continue to support it.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    Hi there! I decided I wasnt going down w/ the LS ship! So far I like this site better. Started off at 225-230. Made it all the way down to 190 and back up to 199. My goal is 175

    Started back on my diet this week and decided it was time for a change!

    Lance Armstrong stinks! Cheaters never win, or at least they win at first, but then have their titles stripped years later. but close enough

    Got any proof that he cheated? Because no one else does.
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member
    I try to separate the man from the cause. While I'm sad (but actually, not very surprised) that Lance was doping, I do think he started a worthwhile organization which does a lot of good. Unless I hear that his organization was complicate in this (which I doubt), I'll continue to support it.


    Ok lets do this one more time:

    we have already established that the good deed doesnt get undone, however, he DID use livestrong to make him self richer and richer and its a fact his money went to BAD causes such as bribes, doping, etc. THEREFORE livestrong despite the good, was really a front for evil deeds.

    what he did was WAAAAAY BEYOND JUST DOPING. Doping is not the point!
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member

    No, i get your point. You're saying that no matter how bad of a person you are and no matter how self-serving your motivation for doing something nice might be, it doesn’t undo the nice gesture. In way yes, you are right. But I don’t want to eat a piece of cake make by a chef that only wishes to make money or notoriety for himself. I want to eat the cake made by a chef that cooks for the love of cooking and the love of his audience. Do you get what I'm saying now?

    And I dont think you have at all grasped the depth of his disgusting behavior. This is a man that HIRED PEOPLE to talk nice about him and get him alligned w/ obama. And why? Do pad his wallet. You are really picking the wrong person to fight for here. Yes he did something things for cancer research and raising money for cancer...whatever...i'll give you that. But to say that his actions have been MOTIVATING? Nothing could be furhter for the truth. There is NOTHING motivating about doing nice things simply to elevate yourself or make yourself money.

    Lol, wait... this comment, newly joined status, clear and obvious agenda...

    You almost got me, you silly boy.


    I have an agenda? Here i just thought i hated lance armstrong for being a penis...who knew? :P

    Oh, using human anatomy as an insult, too? You're too good.

    Too many beers? :drinker:

    Not enough.
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member
    Hi there! I decided I wasnt going down w/ the LS ship! So far I like this site better. Started off at 225-230. Made it all the way down to 190 and back up to 199. My goal is 175

    Started back on my diet this week and decided it was time for a change!

    Lance Armstrong stinks! Cheaters never win, or at least they win at first, but then have their titles stripped years later. but close enough

    Got any proof that he cheated? Because no one else does.



    Are you seriously kidding me i hope???
  • efhilton
    efhilton Posts: 13 Member
    Personally, I'm thinking the guy was running out of funds for his legal defense and finally just said: **** it.

    I'm not convinced he really cheated.
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member

    No, i get your point. You're saying that no matter how bad of a person you are and no matter how self-serving your motivation for doing something nice might be, it doesn’t undo the nice gesture. In way yes, you are right. But I don’t want to eat a piece of cake make by a chef that only wishes to make money or notoriety for himself. I want to eat the cake made by a chef that cooks for the love of cooking and the love of his audience. Do you get what I'm saying now?

    And I dont think you have at all grasped the depth of his disgusting behavior. This is a man that HIRED PEOPLE to talk nice about him and get him alligned w/ obama. And why? Do pad his wallet. You are really picking the wrong person to fight for here. Yes he did something things for cancer research and raising money for cancer...whatever...i'll give you that. But to say that his actions have been MOTIVATING? Nothing could be furhter for the truth. There is NOTHING motivating about doing nice things simply to elevate yourself or make yourself money.

    Lol, wait... this comment, newly joined status, clear and obvious agenda...

    You almost got me, you silly boy.


    I have an agenda? Here i just thought i hated lance armstrong for being a penis...who knew? :P

    Oh, using human anatomy as an insult, too? You're too good.

    Too many beers? :drinker:

    Not enough.


    I cant decide if you pretty and smart or pretty and weird...
  • SopranogirlCa
    SopranogirlCa Posts: 188 Member
    FROM CAUSE MARKETING ARTICLE
    ---- LiveStrong no longer donates to cancer research efforts and instead has transitioned itself into a role as kind of information conduit for people fighting cancer. LIVESTRONG IS NOW PRIMARILY A CANCER AWARENESS-RAISING CHARITY. The problem is that some of the charity’s supporters still promote Livestrong as a cancer research charity. That, of course, is wrong and supporters should depict Livestrong's mission honestly and forthrightly. LIVESTRONG BEGAN PHASING OUT OF HARD SCIENCE RESEARCH FUNDING IN 2005 because the charity's board didn’t feel like it could make a big enough dent in cancer research. Armstrong survived two bouts with testicular cancer.

    Read more: http://causerelatedmarketing.blogspot.com/2012/01/responding-to-outside-magazines-article.html#ixzz2AFnXMfZN
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member
    Personally, I'm thinking the guy was running out of funds for his legal defense and finally just said: **** it.

    I'm not convinced he really cheated.

    Ok i'm officially ignoring people that arent sure or dont think he cheated...thats just...man...i cant even...man:huh: :huh: :huh:
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member

    No, i get your point. You're saying that no matter how bad of a person you are and no matter how self-serving your motivation for doing something nice might be, it doesn’t undo the nice gesture. In way yes, you are right. But I don’t want to eat a piece of cake make by a chef that only wishes to make money or notoriety for himself. I want to eat the cake made by a chef that cooks for the love of cooking and the love of his audience. Do you get what I'm saying now?

    And I dont think you have at all grasped the depth of his disgusting behavior. This is a man that HIRED PEOPLE to talk nice about him and get him alligned w/ obama. And why? Do pad his wallet. You are really picking the wrong person to fight for here. Yes he did something things for cancer research and raising money for cancer...whatever...i'll give you that. But to say that his actions have been MOTIVATING? Nothing could be furhter for the truth. There is NOTHING motivating about doing nice things simply to elevate yourself or make yourself money.

    Lol, wait... this comment, newly joined status, clear and obvious agenda...

    You almost got me, you silly boy.


    I have an agenda? Here i just thought i hated lance armstrong for being a penis...who knew? :P

    Oh, using human anatomy as an insult, too? You're too good.

    Too many beers? :drinker:

    Not enough.


    I cant decide if you pretty and smart or pretty and weird...

    Why I can't be all of the above?
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member

    No, i get your point. You're saying that no matter how bad of a person you are and no matter how self-serving your motivation for doing something nice might be, it doesn’t undo the nice gesture. In way yes, you are right. But I don’t want to eat a piece of cake make by a chef that only wishes to make money or notoriety for himself. I want to eat the cake made by a chef that cooks for the love of cooking and the love of his audience. Do you get what I'm saying now?

    And I dont think you have at all grasped the depth of his disgusting behavior. This is a man that HIRED PEOPLE to talk nice about him and get him alligned w/ obama. And why? Do pad his wallet. You are really picking the wrong person to fight for here. Yes he did something things for cancer research and raising money for cancer...whatever...i'll give you that. But to say that his actions have been MOTIVATING? Nothing could be furhter for the truth. There is NOTHING motivating about doing nice things simply to elevate yourself or make yourself money.

    Lol, wait... this comment, newly joined status, clear and obvious agenda...

    You almost got me, you silly boy.


    I have an agenda? Here i just thought i hated lance armstrong for being a penis...who knew? :P

    Oh, using human anatomy as an insult, too? You're too good.

    Too many beers? :drinker:

    Not enough.


    I cant decide if you pretty and smart or pretty and weird...

    Why I can't be all of the above?


    You can...and you're doing a great job.

    You still havent told me what my agenda is!
  • So from here on out, you are ignoring people who have an opinion that differs from yours...?
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member
    So from here on out, you are ignoring people who have an opinion that differs from yours...?

    Yes, and people in really sexy sweaters.
  • moosegt35
    moosegt35 Posts: 1,296 Member
    Hi there! I decided I wasnt going down w/ the LS ship! So far I like this site better. Started off at 225-230. Made it all the way down to 190 and back up to 199. My goal is 175

    Started back on my diet this week and decided it was time for a change!

    Lance Armstrong stinks! Cheaters never win, or at least they win at first, but then have their titles stripped years later. but close enough

    Got any proof that he cheated? Because no one else does.



    Are you seriously kidding me i hope???

    I'm not kidding. I think that he probably did do some doping, as most other cyclists do as well. I also think OJ killed his wife and that Casey Anthony killed her daughter.
  • Easy now! Its one thing to bash Lance. Don't you dare start knocking my sweater!! ***:)
  • Dunkelheit666
    Dunkelheit666 Posts: 223 Member
    Easy now! Its one thing to bash Lance. Don't you dare start knocking my sweater!! ***:)

    I'm really glad you found the humor in my comment cuz it was hilarious!

    btw, opinions are great! and its my opinion your opinion about lance is wrong and outa wak...

    but you do have excellent taste in sweaters

    :love:
  • Hey, I will be the first to admit, I don't like to "argue or fuss", but I do stand for my opinion. And I respect other opinions. If you can't listen to other opinions, you are a very narrow minded person.

    And I do know that 99% of the time, my opinions are correct. And this time, my opinion is right on! I am as right on about Lance as I was about picking out that sweater two years ago! Thanks and enjoy!
  • nikilis
    nikilis Posts: 2,305 Member
    it is amazing how one mistake (considering we are all human) can almost erase all the good things a person does...

    Oh hun, it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than just one mistake.

    The juicing isnt even part of the issue really. If all he did was cheat or juice, that's actually pretty forgivable. As everyone else pointed out, everyone in biking was juicing so the playing field was basically even!

    My problem is him

    1.) Claiming to have character
    2.) Using noble causes to fatten his wallet and make people blindly follow him. These posts are a GREAT example of how he's brainwashed people
    3.) He actually THREATENED AND MANIPULATED people to hide his mistakes.

    Had he just came out and said "yea, i juiced, everyone did...what of it?" this would have been over immediately...But thats not what he did. you see?


    sounds like a tough break up. don't worry it will get easier and trust me when I say you will find someone new. he wasn't good for you anyway.
  • Mustangsally1000
    Mustangsally1000 Posts: 854 Member
    Well, welcome aboard!

    As for Lance, you know, I have mixed feelings. While I wish performance-enhancing drugs didn't exist so that the true nature of competitive man would have a more level playing field, the truth is a lot of popular sports are entrenched in them. If everyone were surprise tested for these substances in cycling, baseball, football, basketball, and weight lifting, we wouldn't have any teams left. Second, since a lot of teams (not just Lance's) were taking them just in some cases to qualify, it wasn't the drug alone that won seven times; Lance himself was part of the equation, a man who pushes himself hard and performs better than others who are also taking the same drug regimen. To me, official title or not, he will always be a seven-time winner.

    ^^THIS^^
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    i couldn't care less about Lance Armstrong. never did, never will. however, i've seen enough online by accident to know he's a d-bag... apparently everyone who has ever known him well feels the same way. check out the way he left his wife/kids so he could hook up with Sheryl Crow. if he wants to go through life being a d-bag, fine... but let's stop pretending he's something other than what he is.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2196836/My-life-Lance-Armstrong-Personal-assistant-tells-steroids-cyclists-bathroom-cabinet-fired-year.html