The way others see your weight loss
chrishg
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Whether we admit it or not, a big part of most peoples’ motivation for weight loss is to improve the way we look or, more specifically, to improve the way we appear to other people. Of course this isn’t the only reason we lose weight but whether we want to be taken more seriously at work, be looked on as more of a contender in our team sports or turn the heads of potential mates, it’s a biggie when it comes to motives.
I’ve now crept over the 40lbs lost mark and over the halfway-to-target milestone. This loss has led me to some very interesting observations about the way other people view one’s weight loss. It seems to me that people fall into distinct groups. I wonder if this rings true for anyone else.
1] The Complimentors
These are the very nice people who comment often on how well you look and commend you for your efforts in a genuine way. They often start to notice even early on and comment on the first sign of weight loss and applaud you when the see you eating healthily. In my experience, complimentors tend to be female and have a healthy body weight themselves.
2] The concerned complimentor
This group also comment on your weight loss and eating habits but urge you to be cautious with “I think you’re overdoing it” or “You’ve lost enough now, it’s time to stop” even when my BMI has just crept out of the obese range.
3] The negative
Luckily, the number of people who have said something negative directly to me is very small so I think and hope this is a minority group. Last week I had one individual comment “How can you lose 40lb and still be so fat?” Ironically, I find the rare interactions with this kind of person more motivating than most as it prompts an “I’ll show you” response.
4] The no commentor
This is by far the bulk of the populous, the people who, despite the fact that you look great, have had a complete change of wardrobe and have dropped 20% of your body, don’t seem to realise. Closer examination reveals that these people really form 2 groups.
Firstly you have those who are genuinely oblivious. Often middle aged men who are not aware of their own weight never mind yours and who, if asked about your appearance before and after, would respond “Emmm, about average?”
Secondly you have the large group of large people who know that they too have a weight issue. And by acknowledging your weight loss they may have to strike up a conversation with themselves about their own health and body image. Often this is too painful so they ignore weight loss in others thus avoiding the subject.
Just a few observations on my part, perhaps others have experienced similar or have noticed other interesting behaviours.
I’ve now crept over the 40lbs lost mark and over the halfway-to-target milestone. This loss has led me to some very interesting observations about the way other people view one’s weight loss. It seems to me that people fall into distinct groups. I wonder if this rings true for anyone else.
1] The Complimentors
These are the very nice people who comment often on how well you look and commend you for your efforts in a genuine way. They often start to notice even early on and comment on the first sign of weight loss and applaud you when the see you eating healthily. In my experience, complimentors tend to be female and have a healthy body weight themselves.
2] The concerned complimentor
This group also comment on your weight loss and eating habits but urge you to be cautious with “I think you’re overdoing it” or “You’ve lost enough now, it’s time to stop” even when my BMI has just crept out of the obese range.
3] The negative
Luckily, the number of people who have said something negative directly to me is very small so I think and hope this is a minority group. Last week I had one individual comment “How can you lose 40lb and still be so fat?” Ironically, I find the rare interactions with this kind of person more motivating than most as it prompts an “I’ll show you” response.
4] The no commentor
This is by far the bulk of the populous, the people who, despite the fact that you look great, have had a complete change of wardrobe and have dropped 20% of your body, don’t seem to realise. Closer examination reveals that these people really form 2 groups.
Firstly you have those who are genuinely oblivious. Often middle aged men who are not aware of their own weight never mind yours and who, if asked about your appearance before and after, would respond “Emmm, about average?”
Secondly you have the large group of large people who know that they too have a weight issue. And by acknowledging your weight loss they may have to strike up a conversation with themselves about their own health and body image. Often this is too painful so they ignore weight loss in others thus avoiding the subject.
Just a few observations on my part, perhaps others have experienced similar or have noticed other interesting behaviours.
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3] The negative
Luckily, the number of people who have said something negative directly to me is very small so I think and hope this is a minority group. Last week I had one individual comment “How can you lose 40lb and still be so fat?” Ironically, I find the rare interactions with this kind of person more motivating than most as it prompts an “I’ll show you” response.
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That is mean... but those people are going to be mean no matter what. Luckily I'm surrounded by type 1 and type 4 people. Type 2 and 3 are just plain annoying.0 -
Excellent post, and bang on the money!
Weight loss, for me, has really separated the men from the boys in terms of my friends and loved ones. Heartening in some ways; very saddening in others.0 -
I have lost a third of my body wt. and nobody in my small town has even commented on it. They don't seem to notice that I've lost 104 lbs. It is irritating, but I found that I don't need their responses to lose the wt. I am doing this for myself and my multiple health issues that I have from being morbidly obese all my life. I do wish that others noticed, but I can do this, and have, without their support. I have my husband's and family's support, along with the support from all mfp friends, and that's all I really truly need.0
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Some people just don't think it is appropriate to comment on a persons weight or weight loss - they recognize that it is a personal journey and may bring it up unless you initiate the conversation.
I can't believe someone asked you how you could still be so fat... what a douche!0 -
Add another group to your list. Some people are shy and don't know what to say. I fall into that group a good bit of the time.0
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So true! I especially agree with the non-commentor definitions.0
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Wow. I never thought about it before, but that's soo true.
I would like to add the over-enthusiastic complimentor. These people also tend to be women, and for some reason gush inappropriately about your weight loss. Maybe someone can weigh in on why these people ar like this, because I can't figure out the purpose of this type of interaction....
"OMG you looks SOO GREAT! I mean, I know you looked good before, but you look AMAZING now!"
"Thank you, it was hard work, but I'm pleased."
"Yeah, it must have been SO HARD! You look freaking AMAZING! How did you do it? I can't believe how WELL you've done losing the weight! Come here Tammy! Look at Shay! She looks AMAZING don't you all think? OMG OMG! You're butt looks SEXY! And look at your FACE! It looks SO HEALTHY!!"
By far the most embarrassing complimentor. I've had about 3 of these people interact with me since the summer started.0 -
The ones I can't stand are the ones that notice early on but don't want you to lose the weight. They start commenting "are you losing weight?", "are you dieting?" and then proceed to try and offer you bits of junk food to derail your path.0
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All of these are good observations.
It's true that there seems to be a bunch of people who, almost subconciously, want to stop you losing weight. Surprisingly, these people can be amongst your closest friends! I think we underestimate sometimes the role we have played in being someones "fat friend". The person that they can think of when they feel bad about themselves and say "well, I'm not as bad as them yet. Once we drop down to their size we can't fulfill that function any more. It's not a major criticism of this type of person as I think they often do it without realising their own motives.
Also I think people don't like change and worry that the "new you" might redefine the relationship you have with them. I think this can be a really big problem when one half of a marraige makes great progress and insecurities creep in (thankfully this is not speaking from personal experience).0 -
2] The concerned complimentor
This group also comment on your weight loss and eating habits but urge you to be cautious with “I think you’re overdoing it” or “You’ve lost enough now, it’s time to stop” even when my BMI has just crept out of the obese range.
This one! It really gets my goat, I have a skinny friend whose always been skinny and has never had to work at being slim and I have JUST gotten out of the obese range and she said EXACTLY this! I mean WTF? way to be supportive love! I'm so happy that I'm on the way to a healthier weight and she has to say something daft like that!0 -
i've been around all, gosh.0
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Excellent post, and bang on the money!
Weight loss, for me, has really separated the men from the boys in terms of my friends and loved ones. Heartening in some ways; very saddening in others.
I agree! I enjoyed reading this post and found myself shaking my head saying, yup I know them, and them, I hate them etc.
I also agree with how it's seperated people from my friends to the people I don't want to be around anymore due to either coments they said about my weight lose or just "those looks"0 -
Haters gonna hate?
Hahaha.
Seriously though, most people are nice and approving, but I noticed that people that seem to have weight issues of their own are typically the concerned ones.0 -
You forgot the nasty jealous b*ches that sneer and look down their noses when you walk by sporting a hot skirt you haven't been able to wear in years or a new dress that shows off your weight loss quite nicely.
Oh, wait...that's because you're a guy.
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Mainly 1 and a few 4's for me, though probably more would have been 4 if I didn't strike the conversation first, I post my progress to facebook to share with family and friends and have inspired a few to join the journey which makes me feel pretty good, so most people when they see me end up saying "wow I can see you have lost weight how much have you lost now?" as they know I am open about sharing and a few have joined the gym I go to which is great as it gives us all someone to talk to and keep morale high. One of the people who work at the gym I go to approached me today and said he could see I have lost weight and how much I had lost despite it only being about 4.3kg so you are right about some people noticing right from the start.0
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These ring true for me - it was fun reading your summaries of them.
I was most pleased that you included group 2. In my book, this group is the most irritating by far and I just don't understand the motivation. I am at a healthy weight now which I am very happy with, but I have been much lighter in my adult life. Yet, at my lightest, I was always described as "athletic" (implying "fit, strong, sporty and healthy"), rather than "thin" or "skinny", yet it is by these same people that I receive the "ooh - don't go too far" comments today.
It implies that just because you have successfully "dieted" (yes, I have just used the "D" word), then you're suddenly going to develop a psychiatric condition. Not only does this demonstrate a disappointing lack of understanding of the type of person I am and the careful (slow) way I have lost weight, but also a complete misunderstanding for the complex range of events that likely cause somebody to develop serious conditions relating to body image, such as anorexia. I seriously could rant about this for hours - it is by far the most annoying thing I have come across during my weight loss journey. People confuse "obsessive" with "dedicated" and associate it with the beginnings of a "psychiatric dis-order", which is infuriating (and nonsense).
Then, as you angrily respond, it only makes you look defensive.
Grrrr. Hurrah for those who fall into Group 1!
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SO TRUE! Great observations!
AND THEY CAN SWITCH! - I have a swticher around me! Someone who, at first, was a complimentor because I have 40 lbs to lose. But now that I am creeping closer into her range, she doesn't mention a thing.0 -
Don't forget the FEEDERS! My office is jam packed full of feeders.
They know I'm trying to lose weight but the constant comments of 'Oh I'm sure one chocolate biscuit won't hurt your diet??' really wear you down - and make me snappy whenever someone gets up to make a coffee.... Though I need to work on my wilpower to try and refuse!0 -
How funny - I wrote a blog post on this today on my MFP blog.
Another angle is the cultural perspective - it is more or less appropriate to comment in some cultures, and there are different values associated with being fat...
Small excerpt from my post today:
I have recently lived in Asia and the Middle East, where the culture regarding commenting on weight is WAY different than my own. It's not considered rude or personal to make comments on someone's weight who you barely know. A couple times when visiting Africa, I've been congratulated on being fat, as it's considered a sign of wealth and health. In Pakistan, people won't call you fat - they call you 'healthy'. But they mean fat. My regular taxi driver here in Yemen recently told me that I should do more exercise because I am too big. My work colleagues in Pakistan would never fail to mention any little fluctuation in my weight. Sometimes in friendly, empathetic ways - 'well, it's because you're fat, like me!', other times just very practical - 'well, you should sit in the front of the car because you are the biggest'. Definitely stings a little, and I tend to get a bit huffy, but after a while you become a bit immune to it. People honestly don't mean any harm, and don't consider it to be rude.
Maybe there's a category 5: The well-meaning insulters (:0 -
Seriously though, most people are nice and approving, but I noticed that people that seem to have weight issues of their own are typically the concerned ones.
That's such an interesting observation. Pre-MFP, I can being the one who commented in a 'concerned' manner. Probably because I should have been concerned about myself!0 -
You forgot one:
The Contender: Brings up your weight loss solely as a way to mention their own (possibly larger loss).
I hate myself for having been in this category before, but I was an insecure little critter at certain points in my life! :blushing:0 -
"The concerned complimentor"
REALLY getting on my nerves these ones! Don't got to far! You've lost enough! Anymore and you'll look unhealthy etc etc....
These people tend to be overweight and have a poor relationship with food, too....0 -
I get a lot of the complimentary and the negative ones as well.
It's nice to hear a compliment and I always feel great when I do, and I find myself reminding the negative nancy's that my successes nor my failure is any of their business. I know I am being healthy, it's taken me over a year to lose my weight and it's staying off...... I just laugh it off because they usually have insecurities of their own that they are dealing with0 -
I agree with the contender one! Usually it's people who haven't lost a noticeable amount.
Also, add "The well-meaning snake"
They slither around to everyone else in the room and tell all of them how great you look, but never tell you. This happens to me the most. A lot of times my husband's family will tell my husband that I look great, but not tell me. He doesn't tell me either. It usually comes up in a conversation a few days later. So annoying!0 -
I was surprised to actually get positive feedback from some of our psychiatrists at the hospital (many are very self involved). Very few non-commenters, definitely quite a few saying I should not lose more even though I weigh 180# @ 5'4" and wear a size 10-12. Personally I would like to lose another 20 which would still leave me at "overweight" per BMI but would probably have me in 8-10 sizing.0
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SO TRUE! Great observations!
AND THEY CAN SWITCH! - I have a swticher around me! Someone who, at first, was a complimentor because I have 40 lbs to lose. But now that I am creeping closer into her range, she doesn't mention a thing.0 -
2] The concerned complimentor
This group also comment on your weight loss and eating habits but urge you to be cautious with “I think you’re overdoing it” or “You’ve lost enough now, it’s time to stop” even when my BMI has just crept out of the obese range.
I'd add a subgroup to the concerned complimentor - I had someone just last night say to me "You look like you've lost some weight. Is it intentional?" I'd love to say "You're damn right it's intentional - I've been working my butt off!". But I have to consider that my gym is a in a rehab hospital and a lot of the members are retired, and a lot of people are recovering from something. With that population sometimes weight loss is not intentional, and often a symptom of an illness. **sigh**0 -
Wow. I never thought about it before, but that's soo true.
I would like to add the over-enthusiastic complimentor. These people also tend to be women, and for some reason gush inappropriately about your weight loss. Maybe someone can weigh in on why these people ar like this, because I can't figure out the purpose of this type of interaction....
"OMG you looks SOO GREAT! I mean, I know you looked good before, but you look AMAZING now!"
"Thank you, it was hard work, but I'm pleased."
"Yeah, it must have been SO HARD! You look freaking AMAZING! How did you do it? I can't believe how WELL you've done losing the weight! Come here Tammy! Look at Shay! She looks AMAZING don't you all think? OMG OMG! You're butt looks SEXY! And look at your FACE! It looks SO HEALTHY!!"
By far the most embarrassing complimentor. I've had about 3 of these people interact with me since the summer started.
Yes, this one! I get this a lot at work and I never really know what to say...I'm usually left thinking, "Did I look THAT bad before?"0 -
Great post!! I have gotten a lot of wonderful compliments, but I also get a lot of negative ones. The most recent was "You seriously need to eat a cookie!"
When I was overweight, NO ONE said a thing about me being unhealthy. I was 252 pounds at 23 years old and only 5'2. THAT WAS UNHEALTHY! Now that I am at a healthy weight and eat better and exercise, I get people telling me all the time that I may be over-doing it, or just negative comments in general.
The criticism never stops. it may lessen but it never stops. Just be proud of yourself and let that negativity bounce right off of you!0 -
I agree with the contender one! Usually it's people who haven't lost a noticeable amount.
Also, add "The well-meaning snake"
They slither around to everyone else in the room and tell all of them how great you look, but never tell you. This happens to me the most. A lot of times my husband's family will tell my husband that I look great, but not tell me. He doesn't tell me either. It usually comes up in a conversation a few days later. So annoying!
Yes! Those too. They often ask you how much you've lost and how and before you can summon up an answer, we're back to them and how they've lost. I don't mind this so much though becuase it's nice to see someone enthusastic about their journey.
The strangest ones are those who think they are contenders but aren't actually. The ones who are 280lbs, have been on "a diet" for 6 months and have dropped 3lb, but insist in regailing you with their health and fitness truths. Best just to listen, smile and nod with this one.0
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