Are The People On Here more Susceptible To Eating Disorders?

I can see how that happens. It's been difficult to eat more even though my coach keeps telling me to. This place HAS been helpful in determining what I put in my body.

There is no reason at all that a beginner or intermediate bodybuilder cant gain muscle AND lose fat at the same time with good nutrition, weightlifting and cardio.

lol no. Small newbie gains are possible, but for the most part, it is not possible to gain significant muscle while eating at a calorie deficit.

So you think that you know more than Scooby?

I know more than the whole gang, except maybe Velma, because she's the brainy one.

twerk it velma.

Seriously though? "Scooby" is not some all-knowing fitness God whose every word should be considered 100% truth. Research is your friend.

Cutting and bulking is a disorder?

Isn't that why people get personal trainers?

No. Cutting and bulking is mainly about nutrition. Strength training is a part of bulking - the part that makes it useful. A lot of people who bulk (and cut) do not use trainers

"Bulking and Cutting Myth
In the muscle magazines you always hear about ‘bulking’ up then ‘cutting’ down before a contest, should you do this too? Probably not. Professional bodybuilders and very advanced bodybuilders (those who have been lifting seriously more than 7 years) benefit from bulking cutting but in my opinion, beginners and intermediates do not. In fact, there are many disadvantages for beginners and intermediates. Wild weight swings are not good for your body. Obesity is an epidemic in the western world and most beginners and intermediates are no exception. The last thing an overweight or obese beginner should be encouraged to do is to “bulk”! Even more important for a beginner or intermediate bodybuilder than learning to lift weights is to learn what good nutrition is and being able to control their bodyfat levels. There is no reason at all that a beginner or intermediate bodybuilder cant gain muscle AND lose fat at the same time with good nutrition, weightlifting and cardio. It is much easier (and healthier) to keep your body fat low year-round than it is to pig out for a few months and then have to diet for 4 months to get all the fat back off. Why not be ripped all the time rather than just one month a year????? It’s easier, better for your body, looks better, AND its easier – who likes dieting anyway!"


http://scoobysworkshop.com/bulking-and-cutting/

Absolutely honestly use a height to weight chart to know what your ideal weight is some people just keep looking in the mirror and saying hmm I think I could survive losing a bit more

I've been watching a show called super size vs super skinny and it's so easy to get an eating disorder the way the people on that show think is very similar to many people I know

I love that show

Eating disorders are more complex than what you seem to think.

The last thing an overweight or obese beginner should be encouraged to do is to “bulk”!

does that poster look to be an obese beginner to you?

There are ED surveys that can be taken online to see if one needs to seek counseling. But I'm sure there are those who have a few of the behavioral and psychological traits that are items listed on such surveys such as striving for perfection, being OCD, having very negative body image and self-worth, thoughts of suicide, etc. So, yes, it could make it worse but generally people will have countless issues before coming to this site.

I agree. Depends on how you define ED, but probably everyone on here has some kind of issue with food and/or exercise. That's why we're here.

Personally, I don't know what it's like to NOT think about what I eat and how much I exercise (or not) all the time, every single day. And this has been going on for 25 years. MFP just gave me an outlet--a healthy way--to manage it. I've been overweight, but I've never really been fat. And I have been underweight because I didn't eat. Now I have a pretty healthy relationship with food and exercise--I eat when I'm hungry, and I don't exercise If my body tells me not to. But that doesn't mean I'm still not obsessed. I am. But hopefully it's in a better way now.

The fitness world in general is a breeding ground for obsessive behavior.

I think part of the reason is that more attention to detail yields better results, up to a certain point. It's often difficult to know where to draw the line between consistently doing the things that matter and obsessing over details that don't.

Perfectly said.

The last thing an overweight or obese beginner should be encouraged to do is to “bulk”!

does that poster look to be an obese beginner to you?

I'd definitely say he looks like an underweight beginner...downright scrawny even. In fact, my question for him would be, DYEL?


(Oh, wait, I'm not posting this from an alt account? Hmmm...awkward.)

aww, your alter ego is mean to you! maybe you do need some help, for that.

I don't understand the recent influx of pro-eating disorder people lately; like MOST if not ALL people, I used to have an eating disorder, and mfp in of itself has really helped me get a healthier perspective. It seems like a bunch of kids found the website and are using it to spread misinformation.

I've struggled with binge eating disorder for almost my entire life and have tried diet after diet only to have things work for a while, allow me to drop 30 lbs, and then I fall back into old habits.

There was at time in my life where I used calorie counting in an obsessive way, using the calories to log the smallest amount of food, staying grossly under healthy ideals and other times, using calories to allow me to binge on crap food and stay within my calories. I think there is the potential for eating disorders through any obsessive thinking or habits, but I don't think this site breeds them.

Now after doing the therapy that must be coupled with any binge eating disorder, I can use the site in a healthy way, not for allowing me to track crap food so I stay under or to starve myself throughout the day, but to be more aware of the calories in food, to take the guess work out of eating, and to track binges when I do binge. I have found that being able to log the food I eat and knowing how many calories are in different things deters me from eating them and helps me to make healthier choices. I used to think that going out for lunch or having a chocolate bar meant I was undoubtedly over my calories, but after joining mfp, I realized that I can still have treats and have a great day. That has been the most empowering thing for me. Knowing that I can have chocolate or ice cream if I want it, but often choosing to skip it because i can have it another day and still not ruin the day.

So I guess the short version of that is, I think MFP can be a great tool for someone who is recovering from an ED. If you are someone who has ED tendencies and have not done the ground work to dal with your obsessive eating, MFP (like any other calorie counting or even a diet) it couldn't certainly help you to turn food logging into an unhealthy and obsessive habit, but it is all in how you use it. I think it is important to limit ones time logging and your time on the site and to make sure you are using it as a tool instead of a crutch. When I first started, I was obsessive and on here all the time, but now that I have a better idea about how many calories are in what foods, I am on here much less and doing a great job sticking to my calories without having to log all day.

Anytime you focus too much on what you eat, it can develop into an eating disorder. Personally I'm sick and tired of my gal pals always talking about calories and weight gain/loss.

Personally I feel that you should try to cook healthy meals the majority of the time, enjoy the occasional treat and workout to something fun that gives you energy (not just to loose weight). Life is too short to worry constantly about what you you are going to eat, how many calories, numbers on a scale, etc.

I'm loosing weight slowly, but loosing and I am never feel deprived. Yes, I eat the eat healthy, but allow special lunches, dinners, treats into my life style. Just not going to worry about numbers calorie or scale wise. My goal is to be healthy and strong. Some days I eat about 1300 and some-days I eat about 2000. Doing the calorie cycling without even trying and it does work.

I workout everyday because my body craves it now. Either yoga, biking, zumba, sculpting, or swimming. All of which I love to do and never feel like I have to. I have to admit I dread treadmills, bike machines, and going to the gym......that's why I don't to them! :-) I prefer outdoors in nature or pop a video in my dvd player.

beansprouts.........are u mad?

Get real... Do I look like the kind of person who would get half naked and then do youtube bodybuilding videos from my kitchen?...My head is on straight...If I'm in the kitchen...I'm eating!

I am so confused. The post + your answer = no sense