Weight lifting for ladies?

So i just started working with weights at the gym. For years I have just been a cardio bunny but after digging deeper into the diet and fitness world I have finally given into weight lifting. I'm scared it's going to make me thicker and muscular looking. I don't want my arms to get bigger I just want the fat that is on them now gone. A little definition would be nice but not bigger.

How much should I be lifting also before or after cardio? reps/sets? How many times a week.
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  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    not to be rude but if you want information faster than a thread, there are already many many threads about this very topic. you can search here and it can be much faster

    good luck
  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
    1. Lift before cardio or on a different day
    2. Start with 3 times a week and then decide if you want to go further
    3. Start with weights you can lift 6-10 times for 3 sets. If you can do 3 sets of 10 you should go heavier.

    Most importantly make sure your form is good before you start lifting heavy weights and make sure you are eating enough protein. Focus on compund lifts (using lots of muscle groups in one lift).

    Check out new rules of lifting for women, stronglifts or starting strength to see if any of them are for you

    Feel free to add me as a friend, this is fairly new to me too
  • not to be rude but if you want information faster than a thread, there are already many many threads about this very topic. you can search here and it can be much faster

    good luck

    Someone telling me directly is faster than searching the hundreds of post for the info I want.
  • 1. Lift before cardio or on a different day
    2. Start with 3 times a week and then decide if you want to go further
    3. Start with weights you can lift 6-10 times for 3 sets. If you can do 3 sets of 10 you should go heavier.

    Most importantly make sure your form is good before you start lifting heavy weights and make sure you are eating enough protein. Focus on compund lifts (using lots of muscle groups in one lift).

    Check out new rules of lifting for women, stronglifts or starting strength to see if any of them are for you

    Feel free to add me as a friend, this is fairly new to me too


    Thank you! :D
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    not to be rude but if you want information faster than a thread, there are already many many threads about this very topic. you can search here and it can be much faster

    good luck

    *mod makes a frowny face*
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Look into a program like New Rules of Lifting for Women - it's ideal for beginners as it goes through everything and gives you instructions on what to do when. There is also a group here where you can get support.

    Do not worry about getting bulky - you will not. and if you get to a point where you feel you are close to being 'too defined', just back off the lifting a bit and also maintain/gain some body fat. The women with the very defined muscles have a very low body fat percentage and those with larger muscles eat at a significant calorie surplus and train intensively. The 'bulky' ladies are generally the ones doing these things also but are using steroids. Although that obviously depends on your definition of 'bulky'
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
    Women generally do not bulk (without hormone supplementation) because they lack the testosterone levels that men do... Not a sexist statement... simply a statement of fact. Therefore, don't hesitate to lift heavy. That provides better definition. Peraonlly, I lift then cardio though some argue that the two should not be done the same day. Since I like the results I have been getting (even though I am a man so I cannot speak for any differences with women on this point)... I will continue. I found when I cardio first, I would not have as good a strength training session while it does not seem to affect my cardio to do it after strenght training nearly as much most of the time. Best wishes on your journey.
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    SMASHHHHHHH things in the gym...you wont get bulky.
  • WomanMacho
    WomanMacho Posts: 4 Member
    I've heard from multiple sources throughout my life that high rep-low weight is the best way to tone up, and stay small. Low reps, high weight is a quick way to tear muscle fibers and grow in size. So my advie would be to find a weight that allows you to fail around 12-17 reps. Failure meaning, you start to lose proper posture, or you simly cant do any more.

    I am however wondering how often you should lift weights per week.
  • WomanMacho
    WomanMacho Posts: 4 Member
    Lol! That's right, and it really builds up a good sweat.
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    I've heard from multiple sources throughout my life that high rep-low weight is the best way to tone up, and stay small. Low reps, high weight is a quick way to tear muscle fibers and grow in size. So my advie would be to find a weight that allows you to fail around 12-17 reps. Failure meaning, you start to lose proper posture, or you simly cant do any more.

    I am however wondering how often you should lift weights per week.

    nonono.

    Lift heavier...you wont grow muscle in a calorie deficit.
    It a myth that you will "tone" with higher reps
    you can get what you need done much more efficiently with heavier weight and lower reps.

    I lift 3 to 4 times a week, and i look smaller than I have in a long time.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I've heard from multiple sources throughout my life that high rep-low weight is the best way to tone up, and stay small. Low reps, high weight is a quick way to tear muscle fibers and grow in size. So my advie would be to find a weight that allows you to fail around 12-17 reps. Failure meaning, you start to lose proper posture, or you simly cant do any more.

    I am however wondering how often you should lift weights per week.

    nonono.

    Lift heavier...you wont grow muscle in a calorie deficit.
    It a myth that you will "tone" with higher reps
    you can get what you need done much more efficiently with heavier weight and lower reps.
    Yep - what the lady with the hot legs said!
  • Definitely look into starting strength and stronglifts - both designed around teaching proper form first and increasing the weight slowly so you never have to worry about getting injured. However be wary - stronglifts is written for a predominantly male audience, so it talks about building muscle - a LOT - which (as pointed out earlier) you don't have to worry about as much because of lower testosterone levels and, much, much more importantly, you are not going to eat a massive caloric overload which would be required to build muscle anyway. If you're eating to maintain or a slight caloric deficit (i'm assuming you are if you use MyFitnessPal!), it's not a problem.

    Also, check out bodytribe (especially this article on women, weights and strength in general - www.bodytribe.com/2011/12/07/women-and-strength/). They focus on lifting at all levels (from one rep max's right through to crossfit style sets) and mixing it all together - makes for a more interesting workout than weights = 3 sets of 8-12 every.single.time...
  • *accidental double post*

    sorry...
  • envy09
    envy09 Posts: 353 Member
    I've heard from multiple sources throughout my life that high rep-low weight is the best way to tone up, and stay small. Low reps, high weight is a quick way to tear muscle fibers and grow in size. So my advie would be to find a weight that allows you to fail around 12-17 reps. Failure meaning, you start to lose proper posture, or you simly cant do any more.

    I am however wondering how often you should lift weights per week.

    Sorry, but this is wrong. Building muscle mass is part of what makes you look "toned" (the other part is done in the kitchen). You need to start with a weight you can do 3 sets of 10-15 reps, and then increase weight from there. I wouldn't worry about "bulking up" much as a woman not eating at a calorie surplus.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    I've heard from multiple sources throughout my life that high rep-low weight is the best way to tone up, and stay small. Low reps, high weight is a quick way to tear muscle fibers and grow in size. So my advie would be to find a weight that allows you to fail around 12-17 reps. Failure meaning, you start to lose proper posture, or you simly cant do any more.

    I am however wondering how often you should lift weights per week.

    You're gonna want to ditch those sources
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    Definitely look into starting strength and stronglifts - both designed around teaching proper form first and increasing the weight slowly so you never have to worry about getting injured. However be wary - stronglifts is written for a predominantly male audience, so it talks about building muscle - a LOT - which (as pointed out earlier) you don't have to worry about as much because of lower testosterone levels and, much, much more importantly, you are not going to eat a massive caloric overload which would be required to build muscle anyway. If you're eating to maintain or a slight caloric deficit (i'm assuming you are if you use MyFitnessPal!), it's not a problem.

    Also, check out bodytribe (especially this article on women, weights and strength in general - www.bodytribe.com/2011/12/07/women-and-strength/). They focus on lifting at all levels (from one rep max's right through to crossfit style sets) and mixing it all together - makes for a more interesting workout than weights = 3 sets of 8-12 every.single.time...

    Both Stronglifts and Starting Strength are great programs AND easy to understand.

    http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/The_Starting_Strength_Novice/Beginner_Programs
    http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/
  • chopzgurl05
    chopzgurl05 Posts: 84 Member
    Lift heavy! I knocked off 75lbs by eating a clean diet and lifting heavy. I did not bulk up, at all. I became strong and very lean!
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    *accidental double post*

    sorry...

    spankings.
  • Thanks everyone, You have all been very helpful. I'm checking out some of those sites now. :D
  • mermaidrae
    mermaidrae Posts: 13 Member
    Lift after cardio. This is what we do on my team. (Swimmer here) And swimming is all about toning, with minimal muscle bulk. Because, bulking is not good for swimmers.
    An idea for a lift (what my team does...we only lift twice a week but do circuit training on other days) Do upper and lower on different days! start light with weights and add if its too easy for you!

    Upper body Reps Weight
    bicep curls 3x 12/10/8 light (I use 10's)
    tricep dips Same as above use your body weight
    mountain climbers 3x 30
    Lat pull downs same as curls (i go 60/70/80)
    Vertical rows same as curls (i go 40/40/50)
    burpees 3x15
    Planks 3x1:00


    Lower body Reps Weight
    Squats 3x 12/10/8 light (I squat 95-125)
    Bentover Row same^^ (i use 45-65)
    RDL (roman dead lift) same (i use 45-65)
    Step ups 3x12 each leg (bodyweight/ 10 pound plate)
    mountain climbers 3x30
    push ups 3x 12/10/8
    inverted rows 3x 12/10/8
  • Do not worry about getting bulky - you will not. and if you get to a point where you feel you are close to being 'too defined', just back off the lifting a bit and also maintain/gain some body fat. The women with the very defined muscles have a very low body fat percentage and those with larger muscles eat at a significant calorie surplus and train intensively. The 'bulky' ladies are generally the ones doing these things also but are using steroids. Although that obviously depends on your definition of 'bulky'
    I agree with this... I deadlift, squat & lunge at 55kg barbells (about close to 125 lbs.) more than my own bodyweight of 54 (118-120) but I don't look anywhere near those "bulky" women. Not even close.

    Usually leanness creates an illusion of being "bulky". My arms in this pic may look big but truth is my biceps only measure 11" & I wear a US size 2 or UK size 6.

    Like others have said, you will not get bulky with weight lifting unless you are one of those with very rare genetics. But for most of us, it takes a bodybuilding program coupled with a very strict diet (calorie surplus) plus additional "help" to get really bulky like a man can. Plus even guys are having hard time building muscles. We would be considered lucky enough to build 1 lb. of muscle in one week which is considered extraordinary.

    EDIT: 55 kg is only close to 125 lbs & not 140. Sorry I'm not really good at imperial measurements
  • theologynerd
    theologynerd Posts: 264 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/theologynerd This is my personal experience so far, and why I am just astonished what weights can do for women. Do NOT worry about getting bulky. Women that get like that do it on purpose, and work super hard at it, and know what they're doing. If it were so easy that it could accidentally be done, there would be bulky, muscled up women all over the place, just from hefting our kids around.
  • I'll have to write some of those moves down for next time i'm at the gym. :)
    Your the only one who has said cardio before weights. Why? Do you know why you don't get big if you do cardio first?
  • Do not worry about getting bulky - you will not. and if you get to a point where you feel you are close to being 'too defined', just back off the lifting a bit and also maintain/gain some body fat. The women with the very defined muscles have a very low body fat percentage and those with larger muscles eat at a significant calorie surplus and train intensively. The 'bulky' ladies are generally the ones doing these things also but are using steroids. Although that obviously depends on your definition of 'bulky'
    I agree with this... I deadlift, squat & lunge at 55kg barbells (about close to 140 lbs.) more than my own bodyweight of 54 (118-120) but I don't look anywhere near those "bulky" women. Not even close.

    Usually leanness creates an illusion of being "bulky". My arms in this pic may look big but truth is my biceps only measure 11" & I wear a US size 2 or UK size 6.

    Like others have said, you will not get bulky with weight lifting unless you are one of those with very rare genetics. But for most of us, it takes a bodybuilding program coupled with a very strict diet (calorie surplus) plus additional "help" to get really bulky like a man can. Plus even guys are having hard time building muscles. We would be considered lucky enough to build 1 lb. of muscle in one week which is considered extraordinary.

    Your biceps are only 11"? Mine are 14. :(
  • Cranktastic
    Cranktastic Posts: 1,517 Member
    I'll have to write some of those moves down for next time i'm at the gym. :)
    Your the only one who has said cardio before weights. Why? Do you know why you don't get big if you do cardio first?

    I disagree with her there.
    on days you lift you should either not do any cardio or do it AFTER.
    you need your energy to SMASH.

    YOU WONT GET BIG.
  • I'll have to write some of those moves down for next time i'm at the gym. :)
    Your the only one who has said cardio before weights. Why? Do you know why you don't get big if you do cardio first?

    I disagree with her there.
    on days you lift you should either not do any cardio or do it AFTER.
    you need your energy to SMASH.

    YOU WONT GET BIG.

    Ok but if I do get big I'm going to take my hulk muscles and kick all your butts! :P

    <3
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    Ok but if I do get big I'm going to take my hulk muscles and kick all your butts! :P
    As long as you stay away from the anabolic steroids, you won't have anything to worry about. Even if you are the unique little snowflake that can easily pack on muscle from lifting, it won't happen overnight....or in a week....or a month. You'd have plenty of time to see it happening and stop it. You won't just suddenly wake up one morning looking like Ms. Olympia. Putting on muscle doesn't happen as easily as most people think it does. Only those who have actually tried to pack on muscle know how difficult it is, and what a slow process it can be for most.
  • mermaidrae
    mermaidrae Posts: 13 Member
    I just prefer to weight lift right after cardio because this way all of your muscles are already warmed up and ready to go! :)
    It's also how I've been doing it ever since I started lifting (when I was 16). I'm not sure what the reasoning is. But there likelyhood of you bulking wont be an issue unless you're using supplements as the people above and below my post have said.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    I'll have to write some of those moves down for next time i'm at the gym. :)
    Your the only one who has said cardio before weights. Why? Do you know why you don't get big if you do cardio first?

    You should do cardio after weights - but neither will make a difference to getting big or not. The main reason to do cardio after is that you do not want to be tired when you lift weights.