The Starvation Mode Myth...again.

Read this awhile back and it's brilliant.

So sick of reading responses of people regarding diet and weight loss with everyone throwing around purported "facts" about starvation mode. So, here is a little research on the topic. Feel free to chime in with other studies, but lets keep it based on actual research, not personal anecdotes and not "my trainer says."

Starvation mode does not happen overnight or even in just a few days! Calories in, calories out. Simple, right? Short term, yes, it’s simple, long term, not so much. Let’s add some real science to the discussion:

First, a definition. Starvation mode does not mean going without food. It means that you cut your caloric intake to less than what the body would normally burn in the course of a day. I have seen so many posts where people offer advice and tell people they need to eat more to lose weight because they are starving their bodies. The idea postulated is that eating too few calories will reduce a person’s metabolism to such an extent that the person will gain weight instead of losing.

Now, a look at one of the classic scientific studies on starvation. Probably the most famous study done was conducted after WWII by researchers at the University of Minnesota. Starvation was widespread throughout Europe during the war and scientists were trying to figure out how to re-feed people suffering from starvation and determine the long-term effects. (Remember, tens of thousands of people died after liberation from concentration camps not only from disease but from the reintroduction of food that their bodies were no longer capable of digesting.) Scientists recruited 36 young healthy men to participate in a yearlong study divided into several phases: a 12-week normal control period, a 24-week starvation phase where calories were so dramatically reduced that participants lost approximately 25% of body weight; and, finally, a recovery phase to renourish participants. Results of the study were published in the two-volume, Biology of Human Starvation (Minneapolis: University of Minneapolis, 1950). See more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment.

So, what did the results of the study find? First, all participants lost weight. Starvation mode does not result in your body hanging onto extra fat or calories in an effort to “preserve” your body. But, it’s more complicated than just losing weight. All of the participants also experienced a drop in their metabolic rates – approximately 40% below baseline. Now, you will see many posters here that will argue that you will start losing muscle and not fat within a few days of going into so-called “starvation mode.” Yet, the research shows that participants lost both. In fact, at no point did they stop losing fat until they hit a rate of approximately 5% body fat near the end of the study.

Lyle McDonald explains it this way:

In general, it's true that metabolic rate tends to drop more with more excessive caloric deficits… But here's the thing: in no study I've ever seen has the drop in metabolic rate been sufficient to completely offset the caloric deficit. That is, say that cutting your calories by 50% per day leads to a reduction in the metabolic rate of 10%. Starvation mode you say. Well, yes. But you still have a 40% daily deficit.

But, keep in mind that apart from weight loss, semi-starvation has other not-so-cool effects on your mind and body. The other physical effects from the Minnesota study on semi-starvation included a significant drop in physical endurance, reduction in strength of about 10%, and sluggish reflexes. Those that were the most fit initially showed the greatest deterioration. In addition, heart volume shrank about 20%, pulses slowed and their body temperatures dropped. Concentration and judgment became impaired. Sexual function was reduced and all lost interest in sex. They had every physical indication of accelerated aging. But keep in mind, this was a year-long study, not something that happened in a just a few days or two weeks of eating restricted calories.

The more dramatic effects of semi-starvation from the Minnesota study were psychological, similar to what can be observed in anorexic patients. The men became nervous, anxious, apathetic, withdrawn, impatient, self-critical, emotional and depressed. A few even mutilated themselves, one chopping off three fingers in stress. They became obsessed with food, thinking, talking and reading about it constantly; developed weird eating rituals; hoarding, etc.

Now, let’s look at another aspect. The folks at Cambridge University in England did a study to determine the different effects starvation had on lean people versus obese people. The study can be found here: http://www.unu.edu/unupress/food2/UID07E/uid0 7e11.htm. Let’s just cut to the chase with this study.

Does starvation mode slow down the metabolism? No and Yes.

In the first 2 days of starvation, there is a small absolute increase in basic metabolic rate relative to values obtained from overnight fasting. Overnight fasting is what every one of us does during our sleeping hours. So it is not true that going below recommended calories for one day is going to slow down your metabolism -- quite the contrary, it may speed it up just a little. Of course, this is just limited to the first few days. After that, studies in fact support that “starvation mode” slows down metabolism.

Does Starvation mode cause our bodies to catabilize (devour our muscles and other lean mass)? Yes and No.

Lean individuals lost great amounts of fat-free, lean tissue during starvation, but obese individuals lost much more fat tissue. The loss of lean mass is not as critical to the obese person simply because an obese person has more lean mass than a person of the same age and height but normal weight. Here we get to a basic idea that makes sense – fat storage – the same way animals build up bulk to rely on during the winter, obese people have fat stores they can use (to a limited extent) in times of need. This means that the effects of a semi-starvation diet upon a normal weight individual are of course much more devastating than the effects on someone who is obese.

Finally, some conclusions. Does all this mean I should reduce my caloric intake below the minimum recommended as an effective way to lose weight? If you think the answer is yes, then you haven’t carefully read everything here, so I will spell it out:

Let’s start by clearing up that major myth I see repeated over and over again in the forums: that a single day or even a few days of extreme caloric restrictions forces your body into starvation mode, significantly reducing your metabolism and causing you to lose muscles. Not true. You may, in fact, lose weight in the short term. Your body does not go into starvation mode after a few days of extreme calorie restricted eating.

However, let’s look again at the Minnesota study for further compelling evidence why semi-starvation is not a good idea for long-term weight loss. In the latter half of the Minnesota Starvation Study the men were allowed to eat ad libitum again. Researchers found they had insatiable appetites, yet never felt full, these effects continued for months afterwards. Semi-starvation diets don’t work long-term for this simple reason – under ordinary pressures, when eating resumes, people put the weight back on and oftentimes, gain more.

And let’s not forget the other physical and psychological effects mentioned earlier. Any of those sound appealing to you? Reduced concentration or sexual function anyone? The Cambridge study also looked at several deaths from people who undertook extreme starvation diets, particularly those that did not create a good nutritional balance in the calories that were consumed.

Bottom line, you should do adequate research and dietary analysis to ensure you are getting the best nutrition you can for your calories.
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  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    Good informative post. I wish this term and all the misinformation it represents would just disappear!!
  • kkauz42
    kkauz42 Posts: 537 Member
    BUMP
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Nice post.
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    I applaud your efforts, but starvation mode will never die on mfp
  • Shasem
    Shasem Posts: 7 Member
    Bump
  • dalgal26
    dalgal26 Posts: 781 Member
    Thanks for the info! Very informative! :flowerforyou:
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,469 Member
    Very interesting. I wonder how semi-starvation compares to normal dieting, especially in obese people? I'm just wondering if it made any difference that these men were dieting to get to be underweight, rather than to avoid being overweight. I'm thinking particularly of the final phase, when they had insatiable appetites.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    The idea postulated is that eating too few calories will reduce a person’s metabolism to such an extent that the person will gain weight instead of losing.

    I don't see people postulating that they will gain weight. I see people saying that most people will have better success with eating above BMR and below TDEE than most people will by eating the default 1200, assuming that most people of average size or better has a BMR above 1200. AND it is healthier, for all of the reasons your studies conclude.
  • bump
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Yes - I can't help but feel that in many cases people get a bit tired and actually over estimate exercise done as they don't do much (maybe using MFP figures), while underestimating food they've actually eaten.

    Calories in vs calories out still always stands - it's just a case of working out the right figures :).
  • davidsgirl145
    davidsgirl145 Posts: 162 Member
    help! :sick: I'm in starvation mode and can't read it all!


    Just kiddin! thanks for taking the time to post that!
  • Trapwolf
    Trapwolf Posts: 142 Member
    Great Post :O)
  • ElizaRoche
    ElizaRoche Posts: 2,005 Member
    interesting info.. Thanks for sharing
  • cubsgirlinny
    cubsgirlinny Posts: 282 Member
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  • ebailey710
    ebailey710 Posts: 271 Member
    Where's the source?
  • Bump! Great post!
  • brookieboo33
    brookieboo33 Posts: 1 Member
    is this true???
  • jfan175
    jfan175 Posts: 812 Member
    is this true???

    No. Just look at all of those concentration camp victims that suddenly stopped losing weight.
  • agtitus
    agtitus Posts: 26 Member
    <3
  • wackyfunster
    wackyfunster Posts: 944 Member
    In before "OMG I ATE 400 CALOREIS PER DAY FOR 3 YRS AND I GAINED 76000 POUNDS, HOLD ON LET ME ADD 4 BIG MACS TO MY DIARY 100 CALORIES EACH OH WAIT TODAY IS A CHEAT DAY LOL"
  • valjacobsen
    valjacobsen Posts: 3 Member
    This study was done on normal weight men who did not have histories of voluntary dieting for weight loss. Science says that we shouldn't automatically apply what was discovered in one population under one set of variables to a completely different population and different set of variables.

    Yeah, it's true that if we put a bunch of people in a locked ward and feed them 500 calories a day, they would eventually die of starvation, generally with no energy and lots of stalls or plateaus all along the way.

    But, how helpful is that knowledge, really, when it comes to planning a healthy diet that will help us lose weight and keep it off permanently? We're trying to live--not die.

    Time after time, controlled studies and anecdotal experiences have shown the following--
    *metabolic rate drops *quickly and sharply* as a result of severe caloric restriction
    *this is an unpleasant state, physically and emotionally, for the people who endure it
    *it is not sustainable as a long-term way of life
    *people on extreme diets lose both fat tissue and lean tissue, or muscle
    *during a long diet, many people experience weeks or months of no weight change (stalls, or the plateau effect), even at very low calorie intakes
    (presumably, when a person can't lose on very low calories, that person would readily gain if more were added, even if the total intake were still "low")
    *after the diet, fat is regained far more quickly and to a greater degree than lean tissue; on returning to the same weight, the individual is fatter than before

    Maybe "starvation mode" isn't the best term for it, but except for the rare individual who can lose weight one time on a single, lifetime 500 calorie diet and keep it off indefinitely, it is reasonable to suppose that there is some risk to the long-term metabolic suppression that goes with extreme dieting (and this was clearly evidenced in the Minnesota study).

    My history is that after losing 50# and keeping it off for six years, I had a severe and life-threatening illness during which I was unable to eat, or could eat only very little for an extended period of time (months). I was on bedrest or limited activity for a long time, too. So, call it starvation mode, or call it something else, but after being on bedrest and eating next to nothing for a very long time, my metabolism was pretty well trashed! During my illness and recovery, I gradually gained weight while eating very, very little--even, as time went on, trying to eat as little as possible and yet watching the scale go up, up, and up. I was eating so little, trying not to gain, that my family was alarmed for me. (I was eating less than 1000 calories a day and often well under.)

    So, I did some research and have been experimenting with increasing my calories (1800-2000) and increasing the percentage of fat in my diet (keto-paleo). It took some time for things to reset, but the weight has finally started to come off. I've lost my first 10# pretty quickly, and my adult children are pretty relieved to see me eating full meals again! Eating more, I find that my depression is gone, I have FAR more energy, I have a far greater sense of well-being, and have regained my ability to do a normal amount of work and exercise. We'll see where it goes from here, but I'm really hoping I can get back into my old wardrobe again.

    I'm not sure why people who haven't experienced it want to prove that deep metabolic suppression ("starvation mode") isn't real, but it is real. Extreme metabolic suppression happens to some of us (it happened to the men in the Minnesota study, it happened to me). Those of us who have been down that road know how awful it can be, how hard it is to starve and starve and not lose weight, and how depressing it can be not to have any energy or be able to do much.

    "Calories in-calories out" has a deeper reality. When I wasn't eating enough I could barely climb stairs and work was exhausting. Eating more, I can go jump on a treadmill or bike and go, go, go!
  • Ten what the hell is wrong with my body!?!? :(. I've been at or below 1200 calories for almost two months.. I've lost maybe three pounds.. Then nothing. I am becoming very depressed :(
  • Lisapayne76
    Lisapayne76 Posts: 157 Member
    Bump for later