Is protein necessary?
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I use protein powders because I have a hard time reaching my protein goals of 110g a day. I am a smaller guy and am not used to eating a lot and have very rarely ever gotten enough protein. Some typical days (before MFP), I'd have maybe less than 20g of protein.
One does not really need to worry about the adverse effects of too much protein in the diet. This is generally caused by protein taking the place of other things in the diet and thus causing malnutrition.0 -
Protein powder, protein powder, protein powder! I keep seeing people using it, but I don't really see the benefits unless you are consistently not hitting your protein goal. I lift heavy three times a week and constantly go over my protein allotment for the day; all without the use of any supplements. If you're wanting to "tone" then you're going to want excess protein, but there is no reason you couldn't get this by simply eating higher protein foods in larger portions.
This is probably because you have the ultra-low MFP setting of 15% as your goal. This is way too low. Protein is hugely important in getting and being healthy and most people benefit with about 30% of their daily calories coming from protein, not a mere 15%.
PS - There is no such thing as 'toning.' You can't tone a muscle.0 -
I use Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Gold Standard and love it.
I use that same protein shake every single morning and it tastes wonderful!
I agree that MFP sets protein entirely too low. Almost all of my friends go over their protein goal every single day and I don't get why these people don't change their settings.0 -
This is good to know. What supplements of powder do you guys find is better then that other? I ask because I don't eat a lot of meat and I could use this in the morning for my self as breakfast. I am looking to lose and tone also thenks
As a female (not looking to bulk up- just tone and lose fat) I like GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60™ - comes in different flavors
Unless you gain a bunch of fat, it is impossible for a female to bulk up. It is even more impossible to bulk up when on a calorie deficit. You can use weight gainers and still not gain weight if you are in a calorie deficit. Protein in itself doesn't make a women or a man bulk up. Whey protein and other proteins are to supplement food if it's harder to acquire enough calories. I eat 2600-2800 to cut and 3200-3500 to bulk. I have to use whey in order to get enough calories (and I like it). BTW, below is a link to what will typically happen to a women that eats 3000-4000 calories a day, lifts for two hours (a ton of weight training). I will ask if you think she looks bulky. Simply put... woman can not bulk without anaboblic steroids or gaining a ton of fat (not to be confused with eating fat).
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/0 -
Don't forget Quinoa. Another good source of plant based protein.
[Note: a single plant protein source generally does not contain all 8 essential amino acids, which is why it is important for vegetarians to eat a variety of protein sources. Soy beans are one exception.]
Hemp seeds actually contain all the essential amino acids and then some, and they are a complete protein. Hemp seeds are superior to soy.0 -
This is good to know. What supplements of powder do you guys find is better then that other? I ask because I don't eat a lot of meat and I could use this in the morning for my self as breakfast. I am looking to lose and tone also thenks
As a female (not looking to bulk up- just tone and lose fat) I like GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60™ - comes in different flavors
Unless you gain a bunch of fat, it is impossible for a female to bulk up. It is even more impossible to bulk up when on a calorie deficit. You can use weight gainers and still not gain weight if you are in a calorie deficit. Protein in itself doesn't make a women or a man bulk up. Whey protein and other proteins are to supplement food if it's harder to acquire enough calories. I eat 2600-2800 to cut and 3200-3500 to bulk. I have to use whey in order to get enough calories (and I like it). BTW, below is a link to what will typically happen to a women that eats 3000-4000 calories a day, lifts for two hours (a ton of weight training). I will ask if you think she looks bulky. Simply put... woman can not bulk without anaboblic steroids or gaining a ton of fat (not to be confused with eating fat).
http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
she looks great
bulk was the wrong adjective. period.0 -
I was simply trying to tell one female to another is this -- this AMP protein has the least calories. period. ggeshhhh
I am sure you can see from my before and after pic that I have no interest in additional calories! I am trying to lose weight and I simply use a protein shake as a meal replacement occasionally.0 -
This is good to know. What supplements of powder do you guys find is better then that other? I ask because I don't eat a lot of meat and I could use this in the morning for my self as breakfast. I am looking to lose and tone also thenks
As a female (not looking to bulk up- just tone and lose fat) I like GNC Pro Performance® AMP Amplified Wheybolic Extreme 60™ - comes in different flavors
As a female, you won't "bulk up" unless you're shooting up testosterone. Lifting weights won't turn you into the hulk, it will give you muscle definition.0 -
You are always better off obtaining nutrients from food.
Yes, because it is very hard to get enough nutrients from rocks. Although if you could, I guess they would be food too...
Don't forget about spiders, ants, flies, caterpillars...... I mean they could be food, too.0 -
Yes protein is needed0
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Protein is necessary. Its hard for me to get all my protein from food. So sometimes, i use powder. I use Apex lite whey powder.
I mix it with nonfat milk and it doesnt taste bad.0 -
Yes I have been using protein in my foods and shakes for a year now . I add it to cupcakes, oatmeals , veggie shakes . Protein is essential in each meal it keeps u fuller longer and u need it to bulk up in muscles. I have been weightlifting at 3-4 times a week and yes it has helped . Especially in maintaining a clean diet . Hope that helps0
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I was simply trying to tell one female to another is this -- this AMP protein has the least calories. period. ggeshhhh
I am sure you can see from my before and after pic that I have no interest in additional calories! I am trying to lose weight and I simply use a protein shake as a meal replacement occasionally.
And we can understand that, but you can get whatever type of protein powder you want as long as it fits in your calorie goals. Most women can eat 1700-2000 if they are active, so you get a lot of options. Additionally, I prefer a protein powder with whey and casein as it will allow for short and long term repairing.0 -
I used to get very little protein in my diet and I was flabby and doughy. It was not a good look. I was weak and tired all the time. Now I live off whey protein. It's the only macro that you really need to worry about. Get at least 1g/kg of body weight. Fat and carbs don't really matter that much. You need a little bit of both, but some people like to do low carb and some do low fat. As long as you get protein, carbs and fat are flexible.
I want to lose weigh so I am low fat intake and low carb in take. I would love to do powder which kind do u use and like?
Nectar by Syntax. No fat, sugar, or carbs.0 -
I used to get very little protein in my diet and I was flabby and doughy. It was not a good look. I was weak and tired all the time. Now I live off whey protein. It's the only macro that you really need to worry about. Get at least 1g/kg of body weight. Fat and carbs don't really matter that much. You need a little bit of both, but some people like to do low carb and some do low fat. As long as you get protein, carbs and fat are flexible.
I want to lose weigh so I am low fat intake and low carb in take. I would love to do powder which kind do u use and like?
Dietary fat =/= body fat. A high protein, moderate carb and fat diet will be the best. There have been several studies that show low fat diets being the worst type of diet (as compared to low carb). The only fat that is truly bad is trans fats as they body can not process it.. and if you want, limit saturated fat but don't lower fat. Things like sirloins, bison, lamb, chicken, fish, pork , duck, etc.. are all healthy for you.
That's why I said flexible. You should get some of both, but you can play around with these ratios a bit.0 -
its a problem if you eat a lot of protein and you don't strength train, yes. if you lift and get sore though, protein is what repairs those rips you created.0
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I used to get very little protein in my diet and I was flabby and doughy. It was not a good look. I was weak and tired all the time. Now I live off whey protein. It's the only macro that you really need to worry about. Get at least 1g/kg of body weight. Fat and carbs don't really matter that much. You need a little bit of both, but some people like to do low carb and some do low fat. As long as you get protein, carbs and fat are flexible.
I want to lose weigh so I am low fat intake and low carb in take. I would love to do powder which kind do u use and like?
You don't have to go low-fat or low-carb to lose weight unless you have a medical condition. Some people find that low-carb works better for them, but it is not necessary, strictly speaking.0 -
protein powder is a supplement to supplement the rest of your diet if you are having trouble reaching your protein target from the rest of your diet.
That being said, I'm yet to be able to make a nice dessert with chicken breast 0 -
Its easy for wee folks to be saying its easy to hit their protein goal with whole foods but for people at the bigger end of the scale its not so much.
Imagine how much protein a 300lb powerlifter needs a day... thats a lot of eggs, chicken, tuna and steak
I aim for 190g a day which is 1g per lb of lean mass ... id really struggle to hit that without supplements (i have a whey/milk/fruit smoothie at breakfast and protein cookie as a snack) .. i just cant eat that much meat/fish/dairy in a day
You're kidding me if you're a 190 lb male and can't get in 190g of protein a day. I'm 20 lbs lighter than you and can manage over 200g no problem.0 -
Its easy for wee folks to be saying its easy to hit their protein goal with whole foods but for people at the bigger end of the scale its not so much.
Imagine how much protein a 300lb powerlifter needs a day... thats a lot of eggs, chicken, tuna and steak
I aim for 190g a day which is 1g per lb of lean mass ... id really struggle to hit that without supplements (i have a whey/milk/fruit smoothie at breakfast and protein cookie as a snack) .. i just cant eat that much meat/fish/dairy in a day
You're kidding me if you're a 190 lb male and can't get in 190g of protein a day. I'm 20 lbs lighter than you and can manage over 200g no problem.
I ate 1kg (2.2lbs) of chicken Wednesday.
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I use protein powder frequently. I have a sweet tooth and my protein powder concoctions keep the beast at bay:devil: . If left to my own food preferences I eat meat sporadically, if not for my DH who thinks a meal is not truly complete without some meat, I would eat even less protein than I do now. Nights that I work, I eat a mostly vegetarian diet, I grew up semi-vegetarian and still prefer plant or dairy based foods. I tried a low-carb diet, exactly once, never again. Low-carb makes me feel like crap; angry, emotional, achy, flu-like with serious GI issues. I know it works for some people, but not for me. I do good to get 20-25% of my calories from protein, and to reach that requires a supplement most days. I get Pure Protein vanilla at the grocery and it taste fine in everything I've ever made with it and with 25 gms of protein in 140 calories, it helps me increase my protein to better levels.0
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