lb of fat wieghs the same as lb of muscle

the thread 3500 cals IS NOT 1 pound! the tird post down.

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ETA: JUst read the whole thead and it seems like a lot of peoplle don't get it. Can someone please point me in the direction of a post where anyone says 1lb of muscle weighs more than 1lb of fat, because I have never seen anyone say that in my life.

the thread 3500 cals IS NOT 1 pound! the tird post down.
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Just had a look. Thats blatantly a joke response to a ridiculous post, which I think (hope?) is also a joke.

do people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.

please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...

a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.

i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school

Nobody said that a lb of something weighs more than a 1lb of something else! What are you arguing?!
I need to leave this thead now

do people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.

please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...

a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.

i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school

are you familiar with the concept of volume?

ok.

Now take one cubic inch of fat and put it next to one cubic inch of muscle.

Which weighs more?

Yes. We are talking about density. But the common colloquialism "muscle weighs more than fat" is correct if we all understand we are comparing the same volume of muscle to fat, because muscle has more density (ie. weight per volume). I never said a pound of anything weighs more than a pound of anythign else. Please reread my post.

I have two science degrees, and I find your condescending attitude laughable because while you may understand science, your reading comprehension is painfully lacking.

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do people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.

please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...

a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.

i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school

are you familiar with the concept of volume?

ok.

Now take one cubic inch of fat and put it next to one cubic inch of muscle.

Which weighs more?

Yes. We are talking about density. But the common colloquialism "muscle weighs more than fat" is correct if we all understand we are comparing the same volume of muscle to fat, because muscle has more density (ie. weight per volume). I never said a pound of anything weighs more than a pound of anythign else. Please reread my post.

I have two science degrees, and I find your condescending attitude laughable because while you may understand science, your reading comprehension is painfully lacking.

Yes. Yes. YES. Thank you.

I don't see how anyone can say different. A lb is a lb no matter what material you are talking about. The amount of space that said object takes up may be different that is about it.

Seriously, are we back to this ridiculousness again? MFP should ban every poster who starts a post like this.

Love the picture. It's so true.

I don't see how anyone can say different. A lb is a lb no matter what material you are talking about. The amount of space that said object takes up may be different that is about it.

I always giggle a little when someone thinks one item is heavier then the other of the same weight. Not sure if they really 'think' it but their words imply it. Cracks me up everytime.

Not sure why some are getting so grumpy with this post. Its a shame to be negative to an interesting topic. I have been on MFP a month and I have read threads stating simular topic, but I still found this discussion helpful...well the postive parts that is:).

do people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.

please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...

a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.

i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school

are you familiar with the concept of volume?

ok.

Now take one cubic inch of fat and put it next to one cubic inch of muscle.

Which weighs more?

Yes. We are talking about density. But the common colloquialism "muscle weighs more than fat" is correct if we all understand we are comparing the same volume of muscle to fat, because muscle has more density (ie. weight per volume). I never said a pound of anything weighs more than a pound of anythign else. Please reread my post.

I have two science degrees, and I find your condescending attitude laughable because while you may understand science, your reading comprehension is painfully lacking.

muscle is denser than fat not heavier... weight is measured in grams ounces pounds and so on so how can two things have two different weights????? if i go to the deli and ask for a pound of turkey breast i may have more turkey breast if i ask them to slice it thin rather than thick but the total weight is still a pound.

again when you bring volume into the discussion you are no longer taking "weight" you are talking about density...

Two things that are the same size can have different weights. I have two two inch balls. One is made from wood. The other from steel. Guess what??? They have different weights. I can say 1 ball weighs more than the other. I'm talking about weight. Density makes the difference in the weight. You are getting 5th grade science concepts confused.

Your argument makes no sense. If you truly believe that you cannot compare the weight of 1 cubic inch of fat with the weight of 1 cubic inch of muscle, then you must also believe that you cannot compare the size of 1 pound of fat with the size of 1 pound of muscle.

Damn...I've done all that work trying to get muscles for nothing then. I should be trying to get fat so I will weigh less...baha!

do people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.

please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...

a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.

i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school

are you familiar with the concept of volume?

ok.

Now take one cubic inch of fat and put it next to one cubic inch of muscle.

Which weighs more?

Yes. We are talking about density. But the common colloquialism "muscle weighs more than fat" is correct if we all understand we are comparing the same volume of muscle to fat, because muscle has more density (ie. weight per volume). I never said a pound of anything weighs more than a pound of anythign else. Please reread my post.

I have two science degrees, and I find your condescending attitude laughable because while you may understand science, your reading comprehension is painfully lacking.

muscle is denser than fat not heavier... weight is measured in grams ounces pounds and so on so how can two things have two different weights????? if i go to the deli and ask for a pound of turkey breast i may have more turkey breast if i ask them to slice it thin rather than thick but the total weight is still a pound.

again when you bring volume into the discussion you are no longer taking "weight" you are talking about density...

OMG when will you stop this madness.

Density= mass/volume

mass = measure of object's resistance to acceleration

weight = mass x gravity (standard = 9.806 m/s^2)

Gravity is essentially a constant, so....

density = (weight /9.806 m/s^2)/ volume

are we catching on yet the relationship here?????

[edited to correct my algebra, not my science]

Just stop.

do people actually say a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat?

I can't believe we are *still* having this conversation. Muscle does weigh more than fat, as in if you have the same volume of muscle and fat, the muscle will weigh more. One cubic inch of fat also weighs more than one cubic inch of air. It's not rocket science. Just some of us catch on that the rest of statement "muscle weighs more than fat" is "for the same amount of volume"....so you can be lifting weights, lowering your size, lowering your body fat, be building muscle, and see nothing change on the scale.

please stop your argument is wrong... weight vs mass density are two different concepts often confused by many people on this site including yourself...

a pound is a pound no matter if it is fat, muscle, feathers, bricks, lettuce or whatever it is still a pound... now density is the amount of space something takes up and that will vary by objects. yes a pound of fat has more density than a pound of muscle. yes a pound of bricks has more density than a pound of feathers.

i hopes this clears up the confusion with you people that failed basic science in school

are you familiar with the concept of volume?

ok.

Now take one cubic inch of fat and put it next to one cubic inch of muscle.

Which weighs more?

Yes. We are talking about density. But the common colloquialism "muscle weighs more than fat" is correct if we all understand we are comparing the same volume of muscle to fat, because muscle has more density (ie. weight per volume). I never said a pound of anything weighs more than a pound of anythign else. Please reread my post.

I have two science degrees, and I find your condescending attitude laughable because while you may understand science, your reading comprehension is painfully lacking.

muscle is denser than fat not heavier... weight is measured in grams ounces pounds and so on so how can two things have two different weights????? if i go to the deli and ask for a pound of turkey breast i may have more turkey breast if i ask them to slice it thin rather than thick but the total weight is still a pound.

again when you bring volume into the discussion you are no longer taking "weight" you are talking about density...

Two things that are the same size can have different weights. I have two two inch balls. One is made from wood. The other from steel. Guess what??? They have different weights. I can say 1 ball weighs more than the other. I'm talking about weight. Density makes the difference in the weight. You are getting 5th grade science concepts confused.

Your argument makes no sense. If you truly believe that you cannot compare the weight of 1 cubic inch of fat with the weight of 1 cubic inch of muscle, then you must also believe that you cannot compare the size of 1 pound of fat with the size of 1 pound of muscle.

i said nothing about a specific volume of anything so dont try to add words to support your incorrect argument. i said from the beginning fat is denser than muscle you would have a greater amount in a pound of fat vs a pound of muscle but they would both still WEIGH the same.. one may take up more space but the WEIGHT would always be 1lb on the scale.