DIET SODA???

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  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
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    Hi can anybody point out to some study or equivalent that says diet sodas are bad.

    Coke has been around for ages and other than making us fat (which is bad enough) Ive never heard of anybody dieing of soda overdose (incredibly there is an article of water overdose)

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill

    Everybody says sodas are bad, basically because they have heard they are bad (at least in my case) So is there study or peer reviewed article that confirms it, or do we just keep on saying it because we heard somewhere or know someone who told is it was bad.

    i don't care either way, but it would be cool to hear the science behind it being bad or ehhh.. just not as healthy as water.

    Obviously you have access to a computer. There's lots of research on the subject. Like all research, it is heavily influenced by who is conducting the research and/or who is funding it. Often, corporations are conducting their own research. Also, nutritional research is extremely hard to get a clear answer due to the complexity of factors involved. Basically, a skilled statician can often argue both sides of an argument using the same data. Regardless, there is lots of research in regards to artificial sweeteners. You probably don't agree with it, so you have discounted it. Fine, but don't come on here and pretend there is no information that contradicts the "it's perfectly safe" dogma.
  • MissJanet55
    MissJanet55 Posts: 457 Member
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    I have been Strongly Urged by osteoporosis specialists to not drink carbonated beverages of any kind because it leeches calcium from your bones, making them break easily. I've had a lifelong diet coke habit and have have 5 fractures in the last 4 years. I promise you, this is no way to live.

    The people who are diagnosed with osteoporosis are changing, getting younger and younger, and more and more men. So something is definitely up; whether it's the carbonated drinks or not, who knows? But there is virtually no osteoporosis in China, where they consume much less pop than we do (also less meat, which is another theory).

    Do yourself a favour and give it up. The jury may be out on how healthy or unhealthy it is, but it sure isn't improving your life in a way that water won't.
  • danimal5867
    danimal5867 Posts: 390
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    Green tea! The first step I took in becoming healthier was replacing my 3 liter per day Diet Pepsi habit with green tea. I brew my own at home which is a huge cost savings over soda. I sweeten my tea with Truvia which is more better than other sweetening options. There are a wide variety of flavored teas on the market now. Major grocery stores should at least have Lipton's Blackberry Pomegranate and Peach Passion. Whole Foods and other healthy stores will have a much broader selection. My favorite is Black Raspberry Green tea from The Republic of Tea.
  • 1lexisva
    1lexisva Posts: 978 Member
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    Wow!! Thank you all for responding I have gotten good and bad from it :)
  • 1lexisva
    1lexisva Posts: 978 Member
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    I have tried green tea and any kind of tea is not my cup of tea
  • jynxxxed
    jynxxxed Posts: 1,010 Member
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    I drink it with no shame multiple times a week. As long as it doesn't become a problem (in my opinion that would be more than maybe 2 drinks per day) then I don't see any need to cut back on it. I enjoy it.

    Is it good for you? No. Is it going to completely ruin your body and ravage your insides? Probably not.
  • nosey_rosey
    nosey_rosey Posts: 380 Member
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    Diet sodas give me headaches.... bad bad headaches! I stick to water, coffee and green tea. I was a pepsi freak for the longest time and it was very hard to give up. Now when I drink one I feel super guilty =/
  • mrganrshort
    mrganrshort Posts: 40 Member
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    I used to drink diet soda all the time. One thing I've found that is absolutely delicious are diet lipton green teas. If you need something other than water, I'd suggest those. 0 Calories, caffeine, and tastes delicious.
  • betoarango
    betoarango Posts: 222 Member
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    Hi can anybody point out to some study or equivalent that says diet sodas are bad.

    Coke has been around for ages and other than making us fat (which is bad enough) Ive never heard of anybody dieing of soda overdose (incredibly there is an article of water overdose)

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill

    Everybody says sodas are bad, basically because they have heard they are bad (at least in my case) So is there study or peer reviewed article that confirms it, or do we just keep on saying it because we heard somewhere or know someone who told is it was bad.

    i don't care either way, but it would be cool to hear the science behind it being bad or ehhh.. just not as healthy as water.

    Obviously you have access to a computer. There's lots of research on the subject. Like all research, it is heavily influenced by who is conducting the research and/or who is funding it. Often, corporations are conducting their own research. Also, nutritional research is extremely hard to get a clear answer due to the complexity of factors involved. Basically, a skilled statician can often argue both sides of an argument using the same data. Regardless, there is lots of research in regards to artificial sweeteners. You probably don't agree with it, so you have discounted it. Fine, but don't come on here and pretend there is no information that contradicts the "it's perfectly safe" dogma.

    Wow you are an angry one...
    I asked for a real peer reviewed article because I'd like to formulate my own opinion as opposed to repeating what everyone else just mindlessly repeat. Again I ask for the information, maybe one that cannot be answered both ways. Otherwise I will use my own, which is that no one Ive ever known has died of soft drink/splenda aspartame poisoning,

    Relax girl, we are all friends here.
  • Crayvn
    Crayvn Posts: 390 Member
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    really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really bad

    really?
  • SabrinaLily
    SabrinaLily Posts: 121
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    I drink it like it's going out of style (like a 2 liter a day) but so long as I count calories, I'm still losing a 1/2 pound a day.
  • SideSteel
    SideSteel Posts: 11,068 Member
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    James Krieger has done a pretty thorough research review on weightology.net but it's part of his payed content so pasting it here would be quite wrong.

    Having seen a reasonable amount of research on aspartame (I would never claim to have read it all-- but I've seen a handful) I would conclude the following about diet soda:

    1) If you have PKU, avoid it entirely.
    2) If you get migraines from it, avoid it.
    3) If you don't have either of the above, enjoy it in moderation. A few cans per day? Not an issue. A case per day? Probably should start cutting back.
    4) My dentist tells me that it's not good for tooth enamel, I'm inclined to believe him, but this has nothing to do with weight loss.

    To my knowledge (I should review though) there are mixed studies showing effects of non nutritive sweeteners on gut hormones. Thankfully most of you are tracking intake, and if you believe that diet sodas are causing you to overconsume calories due to hunger signaling, then obviously you should monitor this.


    Beyond that though, enjoy your diet soda. If it helps you with dietary adherence and you enjoy one or two now and again, go for it.

    Lastly, I'm ALWAYS happy to see research that conflicts with the above. Those of you who are vehemently against diet soda, please feel free to share any peer reviewed studies (not mercola blogs please) that show harmful effects of diet soda in humans, at relatively "human" levels of consumption.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
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    Hi can anybody point out to some study or equivalent that says diet sodas are bad.

    Coke has been around for ages and other than making us fat (which is bad enough) Ive never heard of anybody dieing of soda overdose (incredibly there is an article of water overdose)

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill

    Everybody says sodas are bad, basically because they have heard they are bad (at least in my case) So is there study or peer reviewed article that confirms it, or do we just keep on saying it because we heard somewhere or know someone who told is it was bad.

    i don't care either way, but it would be cool to hear the science behind it being bad or ehhh.. just not as healthy as water.

    Obviously you have access to a computer. There's lots of research on the subject. Like all research, it is heavily influenced by who is conducting the research and/or who is funding it. Often, corporations are conducting their own research. Also, nutritional research is extremely hard to get a clear answer due to the complexity of factors involved. Basically, a skilled statician can often argue both sides of an argument using the same data. Regardless, there is lots of research in regards to artificial sweeteners. You probably don't agree with it, so you have discounted it. Fine, but don't come on here and pretend there is no information that contradicts the "it's perfectly safe" dogma.

    Wow you are an angry one...
    I asked for a real peer reviewed article because I'd like to formulate my own opinion as opposed to repeating what everyone else just mindlessly repeat. Again I ask for the information, maybe one that cannot be answered both ways. Otherwise I will use my own, which is that no one Ive ever known has died of soft drink/splenda aspartame poisoning,

    Relax girl, we are all friends here.

    LOL I think it's my writing style. I am frustrated but not angry. I have a type A personality too.

    So how would one prove that aspartame (I think Splenda is as bad or worse actually) directly caused a death? You are asking for the impossible since factors cannot be isolated. So that means it's a perfectly safe substance just because corporations put it in everything and the government tells us it's "safe"? Quit being silly. Actually I'm most concerned with the syntergistic effects of every contaminant in our lives and what is happening to our health in modern society. We are longer lived but not healthier (remember, I live in a community where I can compare modern society to Paleolithic socities). Perhaps our experts could focus on prevention of illness instead of treatment? They could, but won't, especially when most of us haven't a clue that there's a problem. :wink:
  • betoarango
    betoarango Posts: 222 Member
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    Hi can anybody point out to some study or equivalent that says diet sodas are bad.

    Coke has been around for ages and other than making us fat (which is bad enough) Ive never heard of anybody dieing of soda overdose (incredibly there is an article of water overdose)

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill

    Everybody says sodas are bad, basically because they have heard they are bad (at least in my case) So is there study or peer reviewed article that confirms it, or do we just keep on saying it because we heard somewhere or know someone who told is it was bad.

    i don't care either way, but it would be cool to hear the science behind it being bad or ehhh.. just not as healthy as water.

    Obviously you have access to a computer. There's lots of research on the subject. Like all research, it is heavily influenced by who is conducting the research and/or who is funding it. Often, corporations are conducting their own research. Also, nutritional research is extremely hard to get a clear answer due to the complexity of factors involved. Basically, a skilled statician can often argue both sides of an argument using the same data. Regardless, there is lots of research in regards to artificial sweeteners. You probably don't agree with it, so you have discounted it. Fine, but don't come on here and pretend there is no information that contradicts the "it's perfectly safe" dogma.

    Wow you are an angry one...
    I asked for a real peer reviewed article because I'd like to formulate my own opinion as opposed to repeating what everyone else just mindlessly repeat. Again I ask for the information, maybe one that cannot be answered both ways. Otherwise I will use my own, which is that no one Ive ever known has died of soft drink/splenda aspartame poisoning,

    Relax girl, we are all friends here.

    LOL I think it's my writing style. I am frustrated but not angry. I have a type A personality too.

    So how would one prove that aspartame (I think Splenda is as bad or worse actually) directly caused a death? You are asking for the impossible since factors cannot be isolated. So that means it's a perfectly safe substance just because corporations put it in everything and the government tells us it's "safe"? Quit being silly. Actually I'm most concerned with the syntergistic effects of every contaminant in our lives and what is happening to our health in modern society. We are longer lived but not healthier (remember, I live in a community where I can compare modern society to Paleolithic socities). Perhaps our experts could focus on prevention of illness instead of treatment? They could, but won't, especially when most of us haven't a clue that there's a problem. :wink:

    :smile: friends now.:drinker:
    Actually my original inquiry was not directed at diet sodas per se, more at sodas in general. I remember my grandparents appalled by the fact that a greased up bike chain left in coke would clear up overnight... and how they said... that stuff is going to kill you... sort of argument. That was more my interest.
    I agree with you in the "denergystic" (hopefully the opposite of synergystic) effect contamination/chemicals on our lives. At the rate we are polluting our oceans and waterways we might end up having to drink diet coke as a safer alternative to water and juice...:sad:
  • PatsyFitzpatrick
    PatsyFitzpatrick Posts: 335 Member
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    How bad is it to drink diet soda? I am trying to stop but it is so HARD!!!! I drink water but not like I should....What can I do to intake more water and less diet coke/pepsi?????

    Thanks!

    Easy stop buying diet soda. Or plan to wear diapers ooops Depends when you are 40ish or 50yrs. My sister only drank diet Pepsi in her younger years now her body is racked with digestive diseases. If it can help clean rust off a car engine well that is a clue. <hug>
  • 1lexisva
    1lexisva Posts: 978 Member
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    How bad is it to drink diet soda? I am trying to stop but it is so HARD!!!! I drink water but not like I should....What can I do to intake more water and less diet coke/pepsi?????

    Thanks!

    Easy stop buying diet soda. Or plan to wear diapers ooops Depends when you are 40ish or 50yrs. My sister only drank diet Pepsi in her younger years now her body is racked with digestive diseases. If it can help clean rust off a car engine well that is a clue. <hug>

    Yuck....I don't drink it like I used to sometimes it tastes funny....Especially when I was pregnant all she wanted was WATER :)
  • testease
    testease Posts: 220
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    How bad is it to drink diet soda? I am trying to stop but it is so HARD!!!! I drink water but not like I should....What can I do to intake more water and less diet coke/pepsi?????

    Thanks!

    Easy stop buying diet soda. Or plan to wear diapers ooops Depends when you are 40ish or 50yrs. My sister only drank diet Pepsi in her younger years now her body is racked with digestive diseases. If it can help clean rust off a car engine well that is a clue. <hug>

    Last time i checked your stomach acid has a much lower pH then diet coke, it too could strip rust off a car engine.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    NO DIET SODA!! No soda at ALL! It is the devil! Get a juicer, make your own juice, and drink lots of WATER! I'm not big on artificial sweeteners but Crystal Light helps to break you out of the drinking soda habit. It helped me, anyway. All I drink is water, soy/almond milk, and tea.

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  • TheWinman
    TheWinman Posts: 700 Member
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    I used to drink diet soda all the time. One thing I've found that is absolutely delicious are diet lipton green teas. If you need something other than water, I'd suggest those. 0 Calories, caffeine, and tastes delicious.

    I second the Lipton diet green tea. Very tasty
  • 1lexisva
    1lexisva Posts: 978 Member
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    I might have to go try that Lipton diet green tea I hate tea but maybe it has a different taste....

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