What with all the Dairy Hate?

I'd rather be fluffy for the rest of my life, and have my dairy products, than to give them up and be skinny. Nuff said!

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a dairy hater, I love my milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese, etc. and so forth. I tried the almond milk as an option. My husband called it nut juice and said it tasted like paste water.

Back to my 1% for me! :drinker:

I eat a ton of dairy, granted, I'm a vet who works with dairy cows on a daily basis. Studies show that women who drink milk weigh less.

It has nothing to do with hating dairy for most people. It does have to do with the Bovine Hormone injected into cows. Not all dairy products come from cows that were injected.


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I also believe dairy is important. I am not much of a milk drinker but make sure I get it in other ways for my bone health, important at my age or any age.

I have 1 slice of cheddar every day at breakfast. It's the only dairy I have but it's not that I hate dairy, I just dont have a taste for anything other than cheese and ice cream. I'll have the occassional yogurt, but that's rare.

As someone mentioned previously, I think people are more concerned about the hormones and antibiotics some milk cows are injected with. Some people believe you do not need cow milk to survive. Just as some studies and people believe soy milk is not good for you due to the estrogen. I am no expert here and am generalizing, but you get my gist.

Almost all milk is RGb (I think that is what it is) free that I have noticed in the stores these days.

I personally buy organic milk if any, for one it eliminates the risks of most of these antibiotics and hormones and for two, I just think it tastes so much better.

Ditto. I drink organic milk because of the hormone and antibiotics present in regular milk. But I also avoid non-fermented soy because of the estrogen (or estrogen-like substance) in it.

For me it is the hormones and anti-biotics and the masses of mucous that it causes for me! I stay away from teh soy for the estrogen factor... I dont think that cheese is EVIL :devil: but I dont think that is is the healthiest option... at least for me

That being said - I AM A CHEESE ADDICT!!! I can go without milk, cream in my coffee, and ice cream on a hot day, but I cant seem to stay away from cheese!!! - I use goat and sheep cheese where I can, but I do love my stinky cow cheeses! Especially gouda!!! My cousin has a gouda farm... mmmmmmmm

1 DAIRY. No skim for this girl. It's either 2% or full fat and I've still managed to lose a little weight in the process. You can't beat the protein, calcium and potassium combo in dairy.

I used to wonder the same thing. I always made sure my daughter drank her milk, and I drank mine to show her that I practice what I preach. I was almost always vegetarian, but I used milk, cheese, eggs, and yogurt liberally. I ALWAYS thought I'd die without cheese!

But then, as a continually read books, blogs, journals, took classes, etc. I started to see why the hype about losing the dairy. After years of suffering migraines, I attempted to try a vegan diet. Haven't had a headache since. I was tested for food allergies, positive to all dairy. Turns out, I would actually die WITH cheese. I had my daughter tested. Positive to all dairy.

One thing that really made sense to me was this explaination about milk:

All mammals produce milk for their young that is appropriate for that youngin' to reach a certain level of development. In humans, anthropologically speaking, we can feed our young for up to 5 years and they are then able to continue to thrive without it. This happened untill about 10,000 years ago when humans began domesticating plants and animals for food. Babies were being fed milk so mom and dad could pull their weight around the new 'farms' without little junior holding them back wanting to eat all the time. (Back then mothers fed babies whenever they wanted, there was no, "let him cry it out he needs to get accostumed to a feeding schedule.")
A cows milk is designed to grow a calf into a 400 pound cow. Kind of over kill for a human, right? We now know that its a bad thing to give milk to babies because they cannot digest it. And in this present day, milk is one of the most common allergens amonst the population.

Other things I can think of at the moment are......

In the U.S. 80% of African Americans, 90% of Aisans, and 60% hispanics are lactose intollerant to some degree.
(Roberta Larson Duyff, American Dietic Association Complete Food and Nutrition Guide)

The campaign showing the connection between drinking milk and weight loss was sponsered by the Dairy Council. Those results came about in conjunction with a low calorie diet. (No proof that it was the dairy doing anything) That campaign was suspended and claims redacted after the Dairy Council was sued by the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

As women we have been beat in the head with the "we need milk for calcium" line. Well, whole milk contains 118 mg calcium BUT......Chickpeas=150, Almonds=234. So really, why does it have to come from milk? There are also studies, can't recall at the moment by who, that show that cows milk actually pulls calcium from the bones, is linked to diabetes, and linked to cancer. (But most things are linked to cancer anyway.)

Then of course you have the hormone/antibiotic issue. And the treatment of the animals who provide these foods to us. I'm not an animal rights activist by any means. I'm a vegan who is not a member of PETA, {GASP!}:noway: :laugh: I do, however, find the way cows are raised and milked to be despicable. Imagine when your boobs are sore, from pregnancy or pms. Now imagine a metal machine clamping on to your nipples and sucking the milk out. Thats just plain rude. I say that as a woman, not an amnimal rights person.:grumble:

Anyway, thats some of the hype against dairy. Everything will always have hype. As much as I loved cheese and yogurt, I wouldn't go back for anything. Thats just because I feel absolutely amazing now. I guess if you can tolerate it and you are ok with the other things being said, then:drinker: drink milk. Have a nice slice of cheese on a cracker for me too.

I think we all need to make our own decisions, but we need to have the whole story too. I always bought the dairy makes you skinny. But now I always look at who did the study and look at opposing evidence. Then I can comfortably make a decision for myself. And I'm always willing to stay open to new research and possibly change my mind. And no matter who tells me something is good or bad, I do all the research myself. I don't have anything against non-vegans or vegetarians, I just hope everybody is really, actually thinking for themselves.

I have 7 kinds of cheese in my fridge...and 3 different kinds of yogurt