Tiger woods

Oompa_Loompa
Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
edited September 20 in Chit-Chat
Ok I do not want to start anything or have this get heated just talking lol.

He is rediculous! Im sorry there is no such thing as "sex addiction" its called your an *kitten* and you got caught cheating! Okay, I take that back..there is such a thing as that but I think people such as tiger woods and jesse james are full of *kitten*. lol Just my opinion.
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  • ♥seoid♥
    ♥seoid♥ Posts: 476
    i agree...but i think they should keep his private life out of the media.
  • durbanski
    durbanski Posts: 183 Member
    I agree he's rich on an ego trip. Sad but if that what rich means? F! That!
  • AnneElise
    AnneElise Posts: 4,206 Member
    I wish I looked 1/8th as good as Tiger's wife, Elin or Sanda Bullock. They as such beautiful and strong women!
  • cuppycake22
    cuppycake22 Posts: 224
    I honestly don't get why people keep judging him for what he has done when there is so many others that do it....Tiger is known for his golf not his personal life...He is a great golfer and he didn't do anything to any of his fans or something crazy like that....I don't even watch golf but man i feel sorry for the guy! i know its not right what he did but that has nothing to do with why everyone likes him
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    I honestly don't get why people keep judging him for what he has done when there is so many others that do it....Tiger is known for his golf not his personal life...He is a great golfer and he didn't do anything to any of his fans or something crazy like that....I don't even watch golf but man i feel sorry for the guy! i know its not right what he did but that has nothing to do with why everyone likes him
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    ture there are tons of people that do that crap and cheat which is awful but unforuantly when you are famous..you dont really get a personal life. And I would judge any person in a situation like this. Not just him because he's famous. I feel so bad for his wife because she is gorgous. And sandra too. LIke what is wrong with them!!! It just goes to show that you can be the most beautiful girl..and still get hurt like that.
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    I type way to fast...i really do know how to spell! lol
  • AnneElise
    AnneElise Posts: 4,206 Member
    I honestly don't get why people keep judging him for what he has done when there is so many others that do it....Tiger is known for his golf not his personal life...He is a great golfer and he didn't do anything to any of his fans or something crazy like that....I don't even watch golf but man i feel sorry for the guy! i know its not right what he did but that has nothing to do with why everyone likes him

    I disagree. He is a role model for many young men. He is a sports star and is known for his golf that is true but sports stars in our society are idolized by young men and women. He knew that he was looked at as a role model and that is part of his responsibility to behave that way. He wanted people to think he was pure and a family man. BUT I feel the same way about ALL cheating men and women as I do about Tiger Woods.
  • freedMan
    freedMan Posts: 68
    Tiger is a perfect example of societal problems. Do you think hes the only one in the world that's doing this? News, Movies, and TV portray sex as a casual fun thing and makes no point to direct it towards faithfulness in marriage. Granted, Tigers 12+ women are extreme, but I think this is due to his existing power/fame, plus his travels.

    I honestly do think he is truly sincere in his apology and is seeking help to recover from his addiction. I don't think its right to be disgusted at someone for their past? Do you? By that same standard, since we are all on MFP, we should be treated and viewed as large, overweight/obese people. No matter our current choices we make, you have to remember us in our faults...

    Not logical. Get a heart. Accept his sincerity and move on. Its public, its humiliating, its over and all he can do is look to the future and hope/pray he doesnt make the same mistakes again.
  • simona1972
    simona1972 Posts: 355 Member
    What I dont understand about either situation [Woods/James] is why on Earth would the women speak up??? Who wants to be known as a homewrecking *kitten* for the rest of their lives?? The media showed them no mercy and they're always flapping their gums about the affairs. I guess they're hoping for a payoff.
  • ♥seoid♥
    ♥seoid♥ Posts: 476
    Tiger is a perfect example of societal problems. Do you think hes the only one in the world that's doing this? News, Movies, and TV portray sex as a casual fun thing and makes no point to direct it towards faithfulness in marriage. Granted, Tigers 12+ women are extreme, but I think this is due to his existing power/fame, plus his travels.

    I honestly do think he is truly sincere in his apology and is seeking help to recover from his addiction. I don't think its right to be disgusted at someone for their past? Do you? By that same standard, since we are all on MFP, we should be treated and viewed as large, overweight/obese people. No matter our current choices we make, you have to remember us in our faults...

    Not logical. Get a heart. Accept his sincerity and move on. Its public, its humiliating, its over and all he can do is look to the future and hope/pray he doesnt make the same mistakes again.

    ditto
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    I can see both arguments but maybe just because I have once been cheated on in the past that my thoughts of ANYONE male or female that cheat is the same. I think it is disgusting
  • ♥seoid♥
    ♥seoid♥ Posts: 476
    What I dont understand about either situation [Woods/James] is why on Earth would the women speak up??? Who wants to be known as a homewrecking *kitten* for the rest of their lives?? The media showed them no mercy and they're always flapping their gums about the affairs. I guess they're hoping for a payoff.

    ditto this too!
  • thumper44
    thumper44 Posts: 1,464 Member
    Tiger is a perfect example of societal problems. Do you think hes the only one in the world that's doing this? News, Movies, and TV portray sex as a casual fun thing and makes no point to direct it towards faithfulness in marriage. Granted, Tigers 12+ women are extreme, but I think this is due to his existing power/fame, plus his travels.

    I honestly do think he is truly sincere in his apology and is seeking help to recover from his addiction. I don't think its right to be disgusted at someone for their past? Do you? By that same standard, since we are all on MFP, we should be treated and viewed as large, overweight/obese people. No matter our current choices we make, you have to remember us in our faults...

    Not logical. Get a heart. Accept his sincerity and move on. Its public, its humiliating, its over and all he can do is look to the future and hope/pray he doesnt make the same mistakes again.

    I agree.
  • lrmoore13
    lrmoore13 Posts: 16
    We need to stop letting these "sports stars" raise our children! He was blessed with the ability to play golf well. That does not entitle him to be a role model. Furthermore, if you marry Tiger Woods you have to have known what kind of person he is. He was doing this before; he is doing it now. His sponsors told him he was more marketable if he was hitched. Now they tell him they will take him back if he apologizes. I would be willing to bet neither of these were things that he wanted to do. He's one of the highest paid, most powerful athletes in the world, if he wants to sleep with every woman in America that is his prerogative. The only mistake he made was not be honest with his wife about it up front.
  • ka_42
    ka_42 Posts: 720 Member
    I wish I looked 1/8th as good as Tiger's wife, Elin or Sanda Bullock. They as such beautiful and strong women!

    I agree!
  • AnneElise
    AnneElise Posts: 4,206 Member
    Tiger is a perfect example of societal problems. Do you think hes the only one in the world that's doing this? News, Movies, and TV portray sex as a casual fun thing and makes no point to direct it towards faithfulness in marriage. Granted, Tigers 12+ women are extreme, but I think this is due to his existing power/fame, plus his travels.

    I honestly do think he is truly sincere in his apology and is seeking help to recover from his addiction. I don't think its right to be disgusted at someone for their past? Do you? By that same standard, since we are all on MFP, we should be treated and viewed as large, overweight/obese people. No matter our current choices we make, you have to remember us in our faults...

    Not logical. Get a heart. Accept his sincerity and move on. Its public, its humiliating, its over and all he can do is look to the future and hope/pray he doesnt make the same mistakes again.

    hmm... interesting perspective. heres how I feel about it. I never really cared about Tiger Woods either way, still don't much BUT my opinion of him is not ever going to be the same. He has children. He doesn't owe me or the world anything or an apology but if he wants to earn my respect back he will have to spend some time putting his children FIRST.
  • TheMaidOfAstolat
    TheMaidOfAstolat Posts: 3,222 Member
    IMHO he was a d*ck to begin with, he never appreciated his fans. The fans are who made him famous. What he does (or who) is his own buisness...but he's a celeb and as such his life isn't private and he will be judged. Just like all the other celebs/politicans in the same situation.
  • Fieldsy
    Fieldsy Posts: 1,105 Member
    there could be an addiction but that doesn't mean you have to cheat on your gf/wife
  • TheMotherAwesome
    TheMotherAwesome Posts: 174 Member
    My whole feeling on this and the Jesse James issue:

    Who cares.

    Just because people are in the spotlight does not mean that their personal lives become fodder for our curiosity and entertainment, nor does it give us the right to speculate on what may have caused their behavior. Their personal lives should be just that - personal. Being an actor or a sports star should not mean that you are selling your entire life to the public, and in fact, it didn't used to be so; you think these sort of "scandals" just now started happening? Nope. These things have been going on since the dawn of celebrity; you just never heard about it, because people had the decency not to gossip. Paparazzi and the Internet changed a lot of things.

    Leave these people to deal with their personal family issues on their own. I'm sure you would want the same courtesy granted to you.
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    those homewreckers def want a payoff...ugh there so trashy. could you imagine them trying to date someone new. Like hi ya you might recongnize me that Im one of the bajilion *kitten* that slept w/ tiger woods lol
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    btw seiod..i love your ticker! lol
  • tlh8185
    tlh8185 Posts: 1
    If you place your self in the public eye, you place your self at a different spot in society. You are a role model for children. Would Tiger like his childrens heros to act the way he did and his kids find out about it? If you are a star you better have pretty good locks for your closet because everyone is looking for your skeletons. If you cant take the heat.......turn away the MILLIONS of dollars that come along with it and stay out of the spotlight.
    Sex addict? My chubby rear!! (thats why I am here lol!) Its easy pickins. They are called groupies and they want to go home and say.....look who I did such and such with. Tiger nor Jesse are addicts. They are selfish players and an embarassment to their families. Not just their wifes and kids. Their MOTHER who thought she did better than that.

    Tiger is just plain STUPID!! Using the same cell your wife calls you on?? Um DUH?? You got cash!! Get a second phone!

    Jesse?? All I have to say to that is what the hell was a beautiful woman like Sandra thinking when she picked up a sweaty pig at a biker bar. YUCK!!
  • mommared53
    mommared53 Posts: 9,543 Member
    Addicted to sex my butt!!! As far as I'm concerned there is absolutely NO excuse for cheating! NONE! PERIOD! To be quite blunt, if the man can't keep his penis in his pants where it belongs when he's away from his wife, then he shouldn't have gotten married in the first place! I don't care who he is.
  • mromnek
    mromnek Posts: 325
    Here is the problem. Our society has developed an attitude of sexual permissiveness. Additionally, our society has developed an attitude of acceptance for divorce. (And I am speaking as one who is on his second marriage)

    When it is snickered at for a person to wait until the sanctity of marriage to enter into sexual relationships, the intrinsic value of sex is depreciated. When sex is referred to as "talking to" a person and a commitment is referred to as "dating," the value of sex is depreciated. When sex is treated as a casual form of entertainment, the value of sex is depreciated. The end result, you get people saying things like "It was just sex, it didn't mean anything." And these people think it didn't, because it was meaningless for them. The problem is, sex always means something to someone!

    Add this to the concept of marriage being just a thing of convenience, and there is no societal pressure for people to make it work, or for that matter to behave in ethical ways. There is no shame in saying you are divorced. There is no stigma with leaving your wife and children (or husband and children). There is no effort to make things work. There is no sense of responsibility for living up to your promises and responsibilities.

    The whole philosophical movement of the post-modern world is based on deconstructing what was previously held to be true and important. So, when we deconstruct morals, we get a "what feels good to you" mentality. So, it felt good to Tiger Woods and Jesse James and all the other dogs in the world. They had no moral compunction to behave in an ethical manner, because the post-modern view of ethics is that there is no such thing as unethical or immoral.
  • ♥seoid♥
    ♥seoid♥ Posts: 476
    btw seiod..i love your ticker! lol

    thanks!
  • TheMaidOfAstolat
    TheMaidOfAstolat Posts: 3,222 Member
    Addicted to sex my butt!!! As far as I'm concerned there is absolutely NO excuse for cheating! NONE! PERIOD! To be quite blunt, if the man can't keep his penis in his pants where it belongs when he's away from his wife, then he shouldn't have gotten married in the first place! I don't care who he is.

    Totally agree!
  • Oompa_Loompa
    Oompa_Loompa Posts: 1,099 Member
    If you place your self in the public eye, you place your self at a different spot in society. You are a role model for children. Would Tiger like his childrens heros to act the way he did and his kids find out about it? If you are a star you better have pretty good locks for your closet because everyone is looking for your skeletons. If you cant take the heat.......turn away the MILLIONS of dollars that come along with it and stay out of the spotlight.
    Sex addict? My chubby rear!! (thats why I am here lol!) Its easy pickins. They are called groupies and they want to go home and say.....look who I did such and such with. Tiger nor Jesse are addicts. They are selfish players and an embarassment to their families. Not just their wifes and kids. Their MOTHER who thought she did better than that.

    Tiger is just plain STUPID!! Using the same cell your wife calls you on?? Um DUH?? You got cash!! Get a second phone!

    Jesse?? All I have to say to that is what the hell was a beautiful woman like Sandra thinking when she picked up a sweaty pig at a biker bar. YUCK!!

    AWESOME!
  • I'm not sure if anyone else watched his press conference last Monday (I did, my husband is huge into golf and I knew the Masters would be on all weekend). I really do believe that Tiger is genuinely sorry for what he did. He has stated that with all the fame and everyone putting him up on such a high petistal(sp) that he felt like he was entitled to do the things that he was doing. He has never admitted to being a "sex addict" or going to sex addiction therapy. He is going the therapy and has said that it has helped him take a hard look at himself and the damage that he has caused others, but did not specify that it was for sex addiction. He has also said how he got away from core values and morals that his parents had taught him, and that he is sorry for hurting them (his father died a few years ago and he feels like his Dad would be ashamed of him, but also wished he was here to help guide him through it). He has also said that the hardest part of all of this is the scrutiny that he has put his family under, and that by attending therapy he missed his daughter's first birthday and he will never forgive himself. I don't think that was he has done is justifiable by any means, but he is human and is has admitted his mistakes and apologized for them. Maybe if we didn't have such high expectations from him then he would have never thought that he deserved to act like he did in the first place.
  • I think addiction has just become a medical term for lack of common sense, willpower, and morality. We all have one in some form or another. I think the medical community just comes up with new words when they can't come up with anything else.

    As far as Tiger goes, I could care less about him or any other celeb. I expect for them to have faults and they will always be magnified. No matter what they do, someone will have to make it bigger than it is. Example: Britney Spears trips while carrying her baby. Ummmm, call the child people cuz I dropped my kid more than a few times, lol! And I wasn't being chased by paparazzi when it happened. My point is, if we all had cameras following us 24/7, our mistakes would be picked up too. Imagine sneaking a pint of Ben and Jerry's into your grocery cart and seeing it plasered on the cover of every magazine with a photo of your *kitten* cellulite. Or a fight with a spouse, which is inevitable in any case, and what people make of it.

    I think we put far too many expectaions on celebs. I know they are public figures, but we are not required to follow or admire them. They are in a business that depends on our reactions. We tend to react more to their negative actions, so thats where they make money. It a business, ya know. Sad and immoral maybe, but money talks in this country. People want money and most don't care how they get it.

    I'm actually thankful to hear more about Tiger than I have been hearing about Kwamme. If you live in Michigan, you know what I mean, lol. Mainly I don't even bother with the TV. Its all garbage anyways. They form the stories around what we react too. We all say we'd rather hear good things, but our money says something else. If you had a choice to watch a documentary on saving Haiti every night at 7pm, or a celeb gossip show/trashy reality show, the later would have higher ratings. Sad but true.
  • Whoever said would Tiger want his kids to see their heros act the way he did? Tiger is their father, and is now going to have to explain to them what he did when they get older....I think that is far worse
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