Paleo..... your thoughts?

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  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    Eat high quality food. Test the macros for you, personally, and your training style. Keep a log. Whatever works best, stick with. That's all anyone can say, really. Best of luck.
  • kderango
    kderango Posts: 4
    No way, not when you are training for a marathon. Runners needs at least 55% of their calories from carbs, 60% is better.

    If you drive that percentage too low you are going to blow through your glycogen stores during your runs. When those are depleted you "hit the wall" or "bonk".

    Bonking is a *miserable* grind on a 12 mile training run.

    Bonking during a marathon will be one of the worst physical experiences of your life. I know this from experience. You do not want each step of the last 6 miles to feel like "2 exits, no waiting" could happen any second. Or that any moment you could pass out. Or that your legs could suddenly seize up and stop working. Or have a splitting head ache set in and know that you still have 6 miles left and no are probably going 12 - 14 minutes/mile. That's 70-90 minutes of hell. All those things happen when you bonk during a marathon. It really, really sucks.

    You need to eat carbs if you run.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I highly recomend reading the book "Finding Ultra" by Rich Roll. He trains for Ultra Iron Man events on a vegan diet, awesome book and has lots of food tips that could help you on your paleo diet and marathon quest. I am following a mostly vegan diet that allows only venison and salmon 4-5 meals per week. No dairy, no eggs. I am training for the Lake Placid Iron Man in July. I feel great, weight is coming steadily off and my energy level is high. I ran 15 miles today with no problems.

    Vegan diet in which you can eat meat almost every day. Sounds good. Very vegan.

    I'm paleo but I also eat grains, dairy, legumes, corn, rice, graham crackers, ice cream, cookies....... I'm also vegan but I eat chicken, fish, beef, pork, rhinocoseroseses, wombats,......

    Actually, messing with your diet to see how different foods affect your performance is a great idea. There's nothing wrong with trying different ways of eating and seeing how they work for you. I read an article pimping ultra-marathon badass Scott Jurek's vegan running book where he says he found that "for him" he performed better when he ate vegan so he eats vegan. Try it and see. I think the problem most have with paleo or vegan or whatthefckever is that there are those ultra vocal proponents of those diets/lifestyles that proselytise that it is the only way you can be healthy. Those people put a bad taste in the mouths of others who believe you should eat whatever contributes to your personal goals and lifestyle whether or not some random *kitten* who wrote a book says that Piltdown Man ate it or not. Doesn't mean there's anything per se wrong with the diet itself.
  • ropogo
    ropogo Posts: 3 Member
    i've been eating largely paleo-friendly since May. i haven't fully committed to that lifestyle, but thats mostly because i've never been an all or nothing kind of guy. when i eat at home, i tend to be significantly better at making paleo choices (minus the splash of milk in my morning coffee).

    but i did find it very hard eating out (not many paleo options near me) and in social situations (dinner with friends and family). i've made my own little compromise: rather than just never eating out or annoying my loved ones with my dietary restrictions i've chosen to make the best meal decisions possible in those instances and try not to worry too much if i have a small amount of cheese, pasta, etc.

    as long as i don't get into the habit of those allowances, i've noticed many positive changes in my body and energy levels. weight is coming off. i now sleep solidly through the night and wake up refreshed. i have more energy than before. and not to mention, i am very rarely hungry.

    you can always try eating paleo for a while and see if you notice a change. give it 30 days if you can (trying not to slip up too much) and see if it works for you.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,224 Member
    I highly recomend reading the book "Finding Ultra" by Rich Roll. He trains for Ultra Iron Man events on a vegan diet, awesome book and has lots of food tips that could help you on your paleo diet and marathon quest. I am following a mostly vegan diet that allows only venison and salmon 4-5 meals per week. No dairy, no eggs. I am training for the Lake Placid Iron Man in July. I feel great, weight is coming steadily off and my energy level is high. I ran 15 miles today with no problems.

    Vegan diet in which you can eat meat almost every day. Sounds good. Very vegan.

    I'm paleo but I also eat grains, dairy, legumes, corn, rice, graham crackers, ice cream, cookies....... I'm also vegan but I eat chicken, fish, beef, pork, rhinocoseroseses, wombats,......

    Actually, messing with your diet to see how different foods affect your performance is a great idea. There's nothing wrong with trying different ways of eating and seeing how they work for you. I read an article pimping ultra-marathon badass Scott Jurek's vegan running book where he says he found that "for him" he performed better when he ate vegan so he eats vegan. Try it and see. I think the problem most have with paleo or vegan or whatthefckever is that there are those ultra vocal proponents of those diets/lifestyles that proselytise that it is the only way you can be healthy. Those people put a bad taste in the mouths of others who believe you should eat whatever contributes to your personal goals and lifestyle whether or not some random *kitten* who wrote a book says that Piltdown Man ate it or not. Doesn't mean there's anything per se wrong with the diet itself.
    Nah, that's just too damn logical.
  • sjohnny
    sjohnny Posts: 56,142 Member
    I highly recomend reading the book "Finding Ultra" by Rich Roll. He trains for Ultra Iron Man events on a vegan diet, awesome book and has lots of food tips that could help you on your paleo diet and marathon quest. I am following a mostly vegan diet that allows only venison and salmon 4-5 meals per week. No dairy, no eggs. I am training for the Lake Placid Iron Man in July. I feel great, weight is coming steadily off and my energy level is high. I ran 15 miles today with no problems.

    Vegan diet in which you can eat meat almost every day. Sounds good. Very vegan.

    I'm paleo but I also eat grains, dairy, legumes, corn, rice, graham crackers, ice cream, cookies....... I'm also vegan but I eat chicken, fish, beef, pork, rhinocoseroseses, wombats,......

    Actually, messing with your diet to see how different foods affect your performance is a great idea. There's nothing wrong with trying different ways of eating and seeing how they work for you. I read an article pimping ultra-marathon badass Scott Jurek's vegan running book where he says he found that "for him" he performed better when he ate vegan so he eats vegan. Try it and see. I think the problem most have with paleo or vegan or whatthefckever is that there are those ultra vocal proponents of those diets/lifestyles that proselytise that it is the only way you can be healthy. Those people put a bad taste in the mouths of others who believe you should eat whatever contributes to your personal goals and lifestyle whether or not some random *kitten* who wrote a book says that Piltdown Man ate it or not. Doesn't mean there's anything per se wrong with the diet itself.
    Nah, that's just too damn logical.
    That's why I haven't written a book and made millions on it.
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    A month of eating paleo landed me in the hospital. Just got out yesterday. No thanks.


    lol....you did it wrong , been paleo for 12 weeks, love it!!! so delish, lots of nutrients and no crap!!!!
  • bigdawg62
    bigdawg62 Posts: 127 Member
    I highly recomend reading the book "Finding Ultra" by Rich Roll. He trains for Ultra Iron Man events on a vegan diet, awesome book and has lots of food tips that could help you on your paleo diet and marathon quest. I am following a mostly vegan diet that allows only venison and salmon 4-5 meals per week. No dairy, no eggs. I am training for the Lake Placid Iron Man in July. I feel great, weight is coming steadily off and my energy level is high. I ran 15 miles today with no problems.

    Vegan diet in which you can eat meat almost every day. Sounds good. Very vegan.

    I'm paleo but I also eat grains, dairy, legumes, corn, rice, graham crackers, ice cream, cookies....... I'm also vegan but I eat chicken, fish, beef, pork, rhinocoseroseses, wombats,......

    Actually, messing with your diet to see how different foods affect your performance is a great idea. There's nothing wrong with trying different ways of eating and seeing how they work for you. I read an article pimping ultra-marathon badass Scott Jurek's vegan running book where he says he found that "for him" he performed better when he ate vegan so he eats vegan. Try it and see. I think the problem most have with paleo or vegan or whatthefckever is that there are those ultra vocal proponents of those diets/lifestyles that proselytise that it is the only way you can be healthy. Those people put a bad taste in the mouths of others who believe you should eat whatever contributes to your personal goals and lifestyle whether or not some random *kitten* who wrote a book says that Piltdown Man ate it or not. Doesn't mean there's anything per se wrong with the diet itself.

    As I said I am following a "MOSTLY" vegan diet. I eat 6 times a day and 5 of those meals are vegan, only one meal I allow myself around 8 oz of either venison ( I hunt and have a freezer full) or salmon. Some day I may give that up too, once my freezer is empty that is. All I know is that since I gave up all dairy, eggs, sugar, peanuts, soy and corn I feel 100% better and my training has improved dramatically. I no longer have inflamation in my joints and recovery is much quicker.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    A month of eating paleo landed me in the hospital. Just got out yesterday. No thanks.


    lol....you did it wrong , been paleo for 12 weeks, love it!!! so delish, lots of nutrients and no crap!!!!


    Did you bother reading his post explaining why are would you rather just be glib at his expense?
  • scrapscot
    scrapscot Posts: 123 Member
    Sounds like another dumb diet to me.

    It's a lifestyle choice, not a diet.
  • kms1320
    kms1320 Posts: 599 Member
    It's kind of misnamed.. our ancestors were more concerned with survival than nutrition.

    I don't see "paleo" diets talking about rodents, insects, or small game like rabbit and squirrel. It's more representative of how we THINK our ancestors ate based on the wide selection of food choices we have available today. What they ate (the original "Paleos") varied greatly by region. The traditional Inuit diet is almost entirely comprised of meat with 50-75% of calories coming from fat. Ancient Polynesian diets were more balanced with fish, coconut, taro and breadfruit. The Maasai tribes of Africa survived mostly off of raw meat and milk and blood from cattle.

    But it is a decent way to eat, it's better than the fast food diet. It's just the current fad.
  • coronalime
    coronalime Posts: 583 Member
    I follow it a lot bc I'm gluten and dairy free. I cannot sustain it 100% bc I dont want to and like to live life AND I can't hold any sort of endurance training energy. So hitting my 2 hr runs or bikes I have to carb. I have to carb prior and during. Sweet potatoes and raisins aren't going to cut it. I think it's a great idea for me most of the time. Like right now. My miles are low so I can eat paleo most of the time. Into to spring with marathon approaching and tri season gearing up I have to incorporate more carbs

    There is a paleo book on athletes. Check eBay. It's a hard read but maybe you can figure it out..
  • Ari112233
    Ari112233 Posts: 91 Member
    Hah agree with the coffee comment. Gotta have my coffee
  • hdlb
    hdlb Posts: 333 Member
    I eat paleo-ish. There are some little things that I haven't cut out, like bbq sauce, but for the most part I follow a paleo type diet. But I only follow it because I have Celiac, I'm allergic to peanuts, and I am intolerant to corn/dairy, and I don't like rice. I don't really like potatoes (though I do eat them once in awhile) and I hate beans. Paleo just kind of fits with how I eat anyway.

    The only way to really know if this works for you is to try it for ahwile. Either you'll like it or you won't.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Hah agree with the coffee comment. Gotta have my coffee


    I've been following the paleo scene for a while now, and don't remember many interpretations of the approach that require giving up coffee.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,224 Member
    I follow it a lot bc I'm gluten and dairy free. I cannot sustain it 100% bc I dont want to and like to live life AND I can't hold any sort of endurance training energy. So hitting my 2 hr runs or bikes I have to carb. I have to carb prior and during. Sweet potatoes and raisins aren't going to cut it. I think it's a great idea for me most of the time. Like right now. My miles are low so I can eat paleo most of the time. Into to spring with marathon approaching and tri season gearing up I have to incorporate more carbs

    There is a paleo book on athletes. Check eBay. It's a hard read but maybe you can figure it out..
    Sweet potato and taro is where I get most of my carbs.....I consume 200 or so carbs a day........low carb paleo is sanctioned by the faction that believe carbs are the enemy. lol
  • jennaworksout
    jennaworksout Posts: 1,739 Member
    A month of eating paleo landed me in the hospital. Just got out yesterday. No thanks.


    lol....you did it wrong , been paleo for 12 weeks, love it!!! so delish, lots of nutrients and no crap!!!!


    Did you bother reading his post explaining why are would you rather just be glib at his expense?

    R U serious???? LMAO
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    Hah agree with the coffee comment. Gotta have my coffee


    I've been following the paleo scene for a while now, and don't remember many interpretations of the approach that require giving up coffee.

    I read coffee is not allowed. I could be wrong.
  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    I see a lot of people just writing me off as a BSer. Okay, here we go:

    Shortly before Thanksgiving I transitioned to Paleo. I shouldn't use the word "transition" because I basically went cold turkey. Almost immediately I noticed an increase in overall energy levels and a rather quick initial weight loss which was mostly water weight. About 3 days later I began getting a sort of moderate disorientated feeling that wouldn't go away. I ignored it because I attributed it as being related to neurological sensory dysfunctions I have been dealing with on and off my whole life. However it gradually got more and more severe up until about a week ago. By that time I had begun going off of the paleo thing and slowly incorporating non-paleo foods back in but was still mostly primal/paleo. I began experiencing episodes that would later be described as seizure-like in nature, mostly revolving around loss of motor control. Thursday I was rushed to the hospital when it happened at work. They kept me overnight and did a battery of tests that were all inconclusive, however they were unable to do an EEG at the time as the neurologist had to be in the office for that and he would not be in until the following day. The neurologist's best guess was that because of my neurological issue which affects cortisol levels I cannot afford to be playing with my diet like I have been and that is the culprit. I still have not regained full sensory capabilities and am, for the most part, confined to my bedroom until my appointment to see the neurologist in his practice next wednesday for the EEG to rule out other possibilities, but he is almost certain it is diet-related in my case.

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