All or nothing mentality - need help being consistent

Hi Everyone,

I have very much an all or nothing mentality. One day I can be perfectly good food wise, train hard stick to calories and the next I blow it. I know that If I eat one bad thing (ie yesterday it was arnotts biscuits) I think "Oh well, I've blown it today I may as well make today a "Cheat" Day

It would be ok if this happened on a once a week basis but its happening too frequently and obviously impeding my weight loss goals. I don't buy junk food for home cos if it's sitting there I will eat it, I also try not to even have 1 biscuit or chocolate because I end up blowing the whole day.

Does anyone relate to this?

Thanks
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  • Gramps251
    Gramps251 Posts: 738 Member
    You don't want it badly enough.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    You have to create the atmosphere that it is okay to not be perfect, that you can improve and compensate on those days you blow it. Don't throw the whole day out, plan lighter eating later to compensate, or plan extra exercise to burn off the excess.
  • BCSMama
    BCSMama Posts: 348
    I can relate. Try planning your treats and working them into your calories. I tend to think of my calories on a weekly rather than daily basis so that if I go over one day and under another, it all kind of evens out. I think if you plan it out and give yourself a certain amount you can have, you will be more likely to stick to that.
  • sonjalucia
    sonjalucia Posts: 120 Member
    I can totally relate - it's in my profile (add me as a friend please).

    Living "All or Nothing" has pros and cons for sure, but when it comes to eating, it's simply not realistic.

    I could go on and on about this, but my suggestion would be what I tried 2 months ago (and have still been doing):

    Track everything and try to fit in a piece of chocolate, or one cookie a day (or every other day) try to fit this into your daily macros.

    I promise you, that after a bit of falling and getting back up, that you will find that you can manage a bit of a savory or sweet tooth and lose weight at the same time. It's not about the destination..it's about the journey!

    Good Luck!
  • RhonndaJ
    RhonndaJ Posts: 1,615 Member
    Yes. Its how I managed to get to 400 lbs.

    It took me far too long to figure out that one slip up does not a failure make.

    I hope you get good advice that clicks for you.
  • Never let one set back ruin the rest of your day. Just make the conscious decision to keep on with your goal, regardless.

    Don't be one of those people who "starts again on Monday" but eats crap all weekend to "make up for it".... those are the people who don't really want to lose the weight, but feel like they should for society or someone else who is telling them to lose weight.

    It is hard work, but you really need to want it for yourself. Nobody else cares if you had a biscuit, it's YOU that you're doing this for. So don't eat the biscuit. x
  • nfrewin
    nfrewin Posts: 73 Member
    You don't want it badly enough.

    Hate to say it but that's pretty much it - have your treats, log them and stick to your calorie count!!
    Stop Making excuses to eat junk

    Tough Love :smile:
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,324 Member
    keep reading the success forum.. it has inspired me to quit cheating myself and just follow the rules and get it done. Seems like those who make that connection find losing easy to accomplish because they don't fool themselves any longer.
  • Crochetluvr
    Crochetluvr Posts: 3,280 Member
    I admit to getting a little complacent over the holidays. I have lost a good chunk of weight and like how I look so sometimes you think, "Oh...I can let go a little." But that only lasted till I moved back into the 170's and said NOOOOO!!!. NEVER GOING BACK!

    I lost those 3 pounds and am only looking downward from now on. :)
  • stunningalmond
    stunningalmond Posts: 275 Member
    That is me too... all or nothing. I'm trying hard not to think of it like that though. Like today, I had 2 cookies and sugar in my coffee, but I worked it into my calories and will work harder at the gym tonight.

    Feel free to add me if you like. I made a post like this a while back to see if there were others with the same thoughts. :p There are many of us. I call the bad days my "screw it days". Lol!
  • eagle1elitepro
    eagle1elitepro Posts: 5 Member
    The biggest misconception is: we get a cheat day..
    fact is: we get a cheat meal!! not a total day of cheating..
  • dangerxbadger
    dangerxbadger Posts: 396 Member
    You don't want it badly enough.

    Hate to say it but that's pretty much it - have your treats, log them and stick to your calorie count!!
    Stop Making excuses to eat junk

    Tough Love :smile:


    It's true. If you stop eating that crap for a substantial amount of time, you will stop craving it. So stop. If you want a cookie, do some jumping jacks instead. Do something that is going to make you feel good about you, not to opposite. Believe me, I know what you're going through. I went from being a super fit, healthy eater to making cakes as a hobby and a self-admitted sugar fiend. But guess what? Once I curbed it and stopped eating crap, I don't even WANT it anymore, because I know how hard I work and don't want to do anything to jeopardize my progress. The first step is always the hardest, but as long as you're coming back here, you are already on your way to making it. The next part is to fully commit and kick the junk habit. You can do this!
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    I wrote this on another thread to someone else who felt very all-or-nothing...

    If you have to go "all in", go all in to one goal each month. Set a modest weight loss goal... 1/2 lb weight loss per week. Trust me. In 6 months you'll be feeling awesome and can re-evaluate if you need. Then commit to meeting that goal daily... with whatever you want to eat. Take your weight, your bust/waist/hips measurements and a full length photo.

    For the rest of January, meet your calorie target without exceeding it. Every day. I dare you.

    In February, exercise at least 4 days a week for the entire month. That's 16 workouts. No problem.

    In March, join a new activity you've never tried... martial arts, swimming, running, dance...

    In April, look at what you're eating and add more protein until you're eating .8g/day for every lb you weigh.

    In May, lift weights twice a week on top of your 4 days of cardio.

    In June, aim for a minimum of 5 servings of fruits and veggies every day.

    On June 30th, take some more measurements and another photo. Compare side-by-side...

    You can do this...

    Habits take time to break... and changes take time to become new habits. Give them time. You're human. You can't expect to suddenly begin living like an elite athlete if you aren't that person. Become that person... slowly. Over time.
  • VelociMama
    VelociMama Posts: 3,119 Member
    I wrote this on another thread to someone else who felt very all-or-nothing...

    If you have to go "all in", go all in to one goal each month. Set a modest weight loss goal... 1/2 lb weight loss per week. Trust me. In 6 months you'll be feeling awesome and can re-evaluate if you need. Then commit to meeting that goal daily... with whatever you want to eat. Take your weight, your bust/waist/hips measurements and a full length photo.

    For the rest of January, meet your calorie target without exceeding it. Every day. I dare you.

    In February, exercise at least 4 days a week for the entire month. That's 16 workouts. No problem.

    In March, join a new activity you've never tried... martial arts, swimming, running, dance...

    In April, look at what you're eating and add more protein until you're eating .8g/day for every lb you weigh.

    In May, lift weights twice a week on top of your 4 days of cardio.

    In June, aim for a minimum of 5 servings of fruits and veggies every day.

    On June 30th, take some more measurements and another photo. Compare side-by-side...

    You can do this...

    Habits take time to break... and changes take time to become new habits. Give them time. You're human. You can't expect to suddenly begin living like an elite athlete if you aren't that person. Become that person... slowly. Over time.

    ^ this post is superb solid advice.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    It's good to have treats here and there.

    If you are finding it too hard to resist or feel like you're depriving yourself, stop setting the bar too high and pre-plan them into your calorie count so that you can have them twice a week or however often you think is reasonable and doable, without going over your goals.

    Also, you can alter your rules so that when you "cheat" you still have to make up for the calories within the same or next day by eating fewer calories or exercising more. By doing so, you will learn how to 'budget' your calories/appetite/exercise to balance the things you need with the things you like.
  • MemphisKitten
    MemphisKitten Posts: 878 Member
    You don't want it badly enough.

    Hate to say it but that's pretty much it - have your treats, log them and stick to your calorie count!!
    Stop Making excuses to eat junk

    Tough Love :smile:

    :noway: This way of thinking really upsets me. Some people have no trouble saying no to junk foods and apparently I didn't inherit their "perfect gene" because I have a really hard time avoiding these foods as well. This has been proven to have virtually NOTHING to do with willpower! It has to do with our brain chemistry and we are hard-wired to go for three things: sugar, salt, and fat. While some people have less of an addictive nature and have little trouble avoiding these foods, many of us feel so out of control because we simply feel as if we fail over and over again. Having cravings and giving in to "trigger" foods will get better over time, and you can still lose weight while cheating every now and then. Don't get discouraged by the PERFECT people, and just keep trying. Every day is a new day! :flowerforyou:
  • Gramps251
    Gramps251 Posts: 738 Member
    You don't want it badly enough.

    Hate to say it but that's pretty much it - have your treats, log them and stick to your calorie count!!
    Stop Making excuses to eat junk

    Tough Love :smile:

    :noway: This way of thinking really upsets me. Some people have no trouble saying no to junk foods and apparently I didn't inherit their "perfect gene" because I have a really hard time avoiding these foods as well. This has been proven to have virtually NOTHING to do with willpower! It has to do with our brain chemistry and we are hard-wired to go for three things: sugar, salt, and fat. While some people have less of an addictive nature and have little trouble avoiding these foods, many of us feel so out of control because we simply feel as if we fail over and over again. Having cravings and giving in to "trigger" foods will get better over time, and you can still lose weight while cheating every now and then. Don't get discouraged by the PERFECT people, and just keep trying. Every day is a new day! :flowerforyou:

    Come on. If people can quit heroin they can sure quit other (non-adictive) things. I'm not saying never eat empty calories. Just realize what they are and you'll be less likely to give in completely.
  • dogo187
    dogo187 Posts: 376
    You don't want it badly enough.


    ^^^^^^^^
    THIS!!!
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    This has been proven to have virtually NOTHING to do with willpower!
    It has nothing to do with willpower, because willpower is a fairytale. When faced with a decision, people always do what they want every time. Learn how to control what you want and you will be able to get ahead of decisions so that when you get to that point, you are not making the choice based on immediate gratification.

    For example in one experiment little kids were sat at a table and given one marshmallow and told if it's still there in 15 minutes they will get another one. The ones who stuck it out did so by keeping themselves from obsessing over the one in front of them. They didn't resist the impulse to eat it, they got themselves away from the situation that would cause them to make that impulsive decision, by focusing on something else.
  • cargilb
    cargilb Posts: 116
    Hi Everyone,

    I have very much an all or nothing mentality. One day I can be perfectly good food wise, train hard stick to calories and the next I blow it. I know that If I eat one bad thing (ie yesterday it was arnotts biscuits) I think "Oh well, I've blown it today I may as well make today a "Cheat" Day

    It would be ok if this happened on a once a week basis but its happening too frequently and obviously impeding my weight loss goals. I don't buy junk food for home cos if it's sitting there I will eat it, I also try not to even have 1 biscuit or chocolate because I end up blowing the whole day.

    Does anyone relate to this?

    Thanks

    I can relate to not having sweets around the house. But I don't really relate to blowing it. I definitely have my days but at worst its once a week and I try to make up for it the next day by cutting back and or exercising. I have learned to love bike riding again and I can spentd up to 5 or 6 hourasrs on my bike burning c up to 4000 calories in a day. Efforts like that make me think, why blow it now ? after an effort like that, why go and ruin it? exercising helps me focus and dedicate myself to the effort i have put forth with time and sweat .
  • mogz36
    mogz36 Posts: 38 Member
    Think about it like driving. If you make a driving mistake while driving home, you don't just stop driving correctly right? You re-focus on driving correctly. It's the same thing with diet & nutrition.
  • maricash
    maricash Posts: 280 Member
    Losing my all or nothing way of thinking was one of the most important things that I did in regards to weight loss and exercise. I used to think, like you, that if I ate one cookie all was lost and I'd give up on what I was doing. Now, if I want a cookie, I eat a cookie. If I want 3 cookies, I eat 3 cookies. I either work them into my calories for the day, or I have them on one of my non-logging days.

    There are all kinds of super restrictive diets that will help you lose weight . . . and then gain it back as soon as you start eating normally again. Having treats is part of eating normally. Holiday dinners are part of eating normally. Birthday cake is part of eating normally. You can have a healthy diet that includes all of these things. Just remember that you are in it for life. Eating a few cookies won't hurt you in the long run, but giving up on your goals because you ate a few cookies will.
  • BeDawn
    BeDawn Posts: 56 Member
    I can relate. Try planning your treats and working them into your calories. I tend to think of my calories on a weekly rather than daily basis so that if I go over one day and under another, it all kind of evens out. I think if you plan it out and give yourself a certain amount you can have, you will be more likely to stick to that.
    ^^^This works well for me.
  • jessjoye
    jessjoye Posts: 69 Member
    I don't think there is anything wrong with "tasting" a favorite food everyonce in a while. There is nothing "bad" and nothing "good" about food. Food supplies us with the propper nutrients and if you want to taste something yummy, remember to truly taste the flavor, smell it, and savor it. You will enjoy it more and eat less and won't feel guilty. The guilt is what makes you overeat. (Like eating in the closet because if no one sees you eat it the calories don't count!)

    Enjoy food in moderation (Taste vs. gobble). You will be able to stick to eating healthy for your LIFE TIME which is what we all want, right? Enjoy your life with everything in moderation, it is the key to happiness :)
  • YES, I totally relate.. I am a lot like that too. I am still having a hard time getting back on track.. It will happen just dont give up. Try to make little changes each day and pretty soon you will be right on track... I am just trying to cut back on sweets right now, that is my biggest downfall... I would love to have you as a friend. Good Luck
  • KenosFeoh
    KenosFeoh Posts: 1,837 Member
    I don't believe in planned cheat days because slipping up on my diet happens spontaneously from time to time. I try to put the slip-up behind me and get right back into my routine with the very next meal. Even if I have 900 calories mid-day, I will still have my usual approximately 400-calorie dinner (unless I'm just plain not hungry). It's not the slip-ups that will do you in, it's the "oh well, might as well have a cheat day". Stop doing that!
  • dangerxbadger
    dangerxbadger Posts: 396 Member
    You don't want it badly enough.

    Hate to say it but that's pretty much it - have your treats, log them and stick to your calorie count!!
    Stop Making excuses to eat junk

    Tough Love :smile:

    :noway: This way of thinking really upsets me. Some people have no trouble saying no to junk foods and apparently I didn't inherit their "perfect gene" because I have a really hard time avoiding these foods as well. This has been proven to have virtually NOTHING to do with willpower! It has to do with our brain chemistry and we are hard-wired to go for three things: sugar, salt, and fat. While some people have less of an addictive nature and have little trouble avoiding these foods, many of us feel so out of control because we simply feel as if we fail over and over again. Having cravings and giving in to "trigger" foods will get better over time, and you can still lose weight while cheating every now and then. Don't get discouraged by the PERFECT people, and just keep trying. Every day is a new day! :flowerforyou:


    I am FAR from perfect, but I also know what works and what doesn't and as long as she is still giving into cravings, it's not working. The cycle of self-pity and bad choices is going to continue. Sugar, salt and fat addictions are the same as any drug. Have you ever met a cocaine addict who could just use coke "every once in a while"? You have to PURGE your body of that garbage and when you stop craving it/wanting it all the time, THEN it might be appropriate to have it once in a while. But if you are that out of control with it, its a better idea to stop altogether until you can control it.
  • gmallan
    gmallan Posts: 2,099 Member
    This is all about making a mental shift in attitude. The all or nothing approach is not realistic. Life happends and you have to have strategies to deal with it when it does. You need to learn that it's okay to eat ANYTHING if you can control the portion size. Easier said then done sometimes though.

    Remember not only is every day a new day but so is every hour and every meal. If you slip up and eat a whole packet of biscuits/chips/chocolate when you intended to have one or two just take a moment to re-focus. Take note of how you feel afterwards. Realise you've slipped up and learn from it. Plan not to do it again. Remind yourself why you're doing this and then switch your focus to the rest of the day.

    One of the best pieces of advice I found on here is that if you stuff up with your diet, THE MOST IMPORTANT meal you'll eat in that day is the very next one. Focus on making the NEXT meal as healthy as possible. Don't wait until tomorrow to get back on track. You'll thank yourself tomorrow
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
    I read on here once that throwing out your whole day and binging because you made one mistake is a little like smashing your cell phone to bits with a sledgehammer because you dropped it on the ground. :flowerforyou:
  • Thanks for all the responses guys :) I am a work in progess to all the tough lovers out there, but I do appreciate those comments too. I DO need to want it more and I'm working on my downfalls.

    A very nice person took the time to write me quite a long email - his experience and words really resonated with me and I think I've just had my first AHA moment :) If he says its ok I'll put on here so everyone else can benefit from his wise words - well i thought they were wise some of the perfectionists out there might disagree but hey the info won't be for you!

    Thanks again for all the posts I'm feeling much more confident in making this a lifestyle change rather than just a diet.....