Do you need to lift weights when you are very overweight?

I'm not sure exactly how much weight I want to lose but it's significant, maybe 200lbs. My doctor and others just say cardio, cardio, cardio to get the weight off. Should I also be lifting weights or is that not important until an initial 100 lbs is off or so?
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  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
    Strictly speaking in terms of body composition, lifting is always more important than cardio. True story.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    calorie deficit leads to weight loss. You can do that with diet alone, or diet and exercise. If you chose exercise, cadio and strength training affect the body differently, but both burn cals and will help you get into a deficit if that's your goal.
  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
    Strictly speaking in terms of body composition, lifting is always more important than cardio. True story.
    Great. Because she clearly stated having body comp goals.
  • LishieFruit89
    LishieFruit89 Posts: 1,956 Member
    You don't need to but you should.

    This woman here is a badass: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/nz_deevaa
    She's lifting heavy and (to my knowledge) has been for awhile.

    Mix it up and enjoy your workouts so you don't dread it.
    Cardio only can get really boring (to some), and weights only can get boring (to some).
  • chevy88grl
    chevy88grl Posts: 3,937 Member
    When I first started, I focused 100% on cardio. I had a goal in mind - get the weight off. Once I got a lot of the weight off, I started with more of a cross training (combining weights AND cardio). For me, weight loss only comes with cardio. But, I definitely wanted the weight side of it once I was thinner so I could have a leaner look to me. Different people will likely tell you different things. You'll get the anti-cardio people who tell you that cardio isn't necessary. There will be people who do both (like me) and people who only want to do cardio.

    In all honesty, none of them are "right" or "wrong" - it all depends on YOUR goals.
  • wareagle8706
    wareagle8706 Posts: 1,090 Member
    YES Lift weights! It "burns fat" too. Plus it will eventually help you burn fat faster.
  • coyoteo
    coyoteo Posts: 532 Member
    Cardio never seems to help me lose much for weight. Lifting does. I love to lift. Give it a try!
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
    Strictly speaking in terms of body composition, lifting is always more important than cardio. True story.
    Great. Because she clearly stated having body comp goals.

    Not sure if srs
  • vorgas
    vorgas Posts: 741 Member
    There are four sources of calories: protein, carbs, fat, alcohol.
    Your body uses these for different things (alcohol not so much).
    If your body doesn't need what you give it, it will turn to fat.

    Protein is used, among other things, to rebuild/repair muscles after you tear them up lifting weights. Don't lift weights, and your body doesn't need as much protein. Therefore, you are more likely to turn protein into fat.

    Carbohydrates, among other things, is used to replenish glycogen, and important fuel source. Don't do cardio (or other anaerobic exercises) and your body doesn't use as much glycogen. Therefor, you are more likely to turn carbohydrates into fat.

    Fat is already fat :) Your body needs some for maintenance. The rest is used as fat.
  • rocket_ace
    rocket_ace Posts: 380 Member
    cardio is very important for fat loss when you are bigger. you want to balance with strength training so you don't lose too much muscle, but that being said, the effects of muscle loss won't occur until you have come down in weight....I would say once you hit 25% body fat, you should think about weight lifting....but why not start them both and build up experience. I don't think you will "lose" time by adding strength training (ie - I don't think your fat loss rate will decrease, although your weight loss may decrease as you won't be losing as much muscle) - although you won't build (much) muscle on a caloric deficit I think it will still stoke your metabolism during non-workout times. most people (like me) who ask this question just don't like weights - but cardio and weights go hand in hand w/ eating healthy and at a deficit. others advocate only active weight training (like circuits w/o much rest). But, in my opinion you would be foolish to neglect the fat reducing gains from cardio (as well as the heart healthy gains).
  • kuger4119
    kuger4119 Posts: 213 Member
    I'm not sure exactly how much weight I want to lose but it's significant, maybe 200lbs. My doctor and others just say cardio, cardio, cardio to get the weight off. Should I also be lifting weights or is that not important until an initial 100 lbs is off or so?

    Most important is to just do what motivates you to be active. Cardio is the most effective way to burn calories while doing it, so I would spend 2/3rds of your time doing that. Weight lifting will improve your lean muscle mass (make sure you don't skimp on the protein) which will help you burn more calories overall. Definitely do both.

    I'll burn over 350 calories in 30 minutes of running. I'm lucky to burn half that lifting weights and it's probably closer to 1/3rd depending on how I'm lifting. Working in some lifting will also break up the routine of the gym and keep it from being stagnant. You'll be amazed at your strength improvement if you work at it.
  • Cr01502
    Cr01502 Posts: 3,614 Member
    Strictly speaking in terms of body composition, lifting is always more important than cardio. True story.

    Stop hogging all the threads with your good information!
  • Coltsman4ever
    Coltsman4ever Posts: 602 Member
    It's true you don't need to exercise at all to lose weight but your body will burn a combination of muscle and fat for energy. You should weight train in order to keep the muscle you have.

    You'll lose more weight with weight training. Adding muscle mass increases the amount of calories your body burns when you're doing nothing. It will give you a great boost toward your weight loss goals.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
    Strictly speaking in terms of body composition, lifting is always more important than cardio. True story.

    Stop hogging all the threads with your good information!

    Sorry. Bored at work bruh.
  • legnarevocrednu
    legnarevocrednu Posts: 467 Member
    Can't hurt to try! It's better to tone as you go.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Strictly speaking in terms of body composition, lifting is always more important than cardio. True story.
    Great. Because she clearly stated having body comp goals.

    :laugh:

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  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    You don't need to but you should.

    This woman here is a badass: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/nz_deevaa
    She's lifting heavy and (to my knowledge) has been for awhile.

    Mix it up and enjoy your workouts so you don't dread it.
    Cardio only can get really boring (to some), and weights only can get boring (to some).

    YES!
    Here's her thread about it, too:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/824518-fat-girl-dead-lifting?hl=fat+girl+deadlifting

    The answer is you'll get to your goals faster and have better results if you start lifting yesterday.
  • misskerouac
    misskerouac Posts: 2,242 Member
    I have done strength training and cardio throughout the whole thing and the only thing I can say is that I look better now at 163 than I did 5 years ago at 155 when all I was doing was cardio.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
    Losing 100 lbs is clearly a body composition goal.
  • coolvstar650
    coolvstar650 Posts: 97 Member
    Here is my recipe for success.
    1. Eat at a deficit of TDEE. (Figure it out for yourself or let MFP do the work for you.)
    2. Lift heavy weights (as heavy as you can with good form: deadlift, squat, and bench press. Do a minimum of a 5x5).
    3. Do 30 mins 3 x per week of cardio (like Kettlebells, Treadmill, stationary bike or a combo of the three. I usually mix mine up).

    You will lose weight and you can eat real food, including bacon and fried chicken. It is all about the DEFICIT. AND you will look amazing.
  • concordancia
    concordancia Posts: 5,320 Member
    Is your doctor the family doctor or a weight loss specialist?

    A medical professional who knows what shape your body is in will probably give you better advice than opinionated strangers.

    If you want generalities, studies show that a mix of both is best for weight loss. Other studies have shown that whatever you will stick with is best for you.

    Right now, if you do a squat, your legs are pushing around an extra 200lbs. After you lose 50lbs, you will only be able to squat with 50lbs if you have been working at it. Once you have lost 200lbs, most people would be pretty impressed if you were squatting with 200lbs.
  • darwinforyou
    darwinforyou Posts: 988 Member
    LIFT!!!!!!! I'm an overweight girl and at the weight I am at right now - when I was this weight previously, I was a size 18, same weight now I am a size 12-14. Weight lifting has done more for my body than cardio has....though I also do cardio 3x a week! But my goals are around lifting more than they are cardio -

    Just pay attention to what you eat - I don't focus on low carb but I make sure I eat enough protein for my lean body mass.

    As an overweight girl too, lifting has done more for my own self esteem than actual cardio has.....
  • serenapitala
    serenapitala Posts: 441 Member
    calorie deficit leads to weight loss. You can do that with diet alone, or diet and exercise. If you chose exercise, cadio and strength training affect the body differently, but both burn cals and will help you get into a deficit if that's your goal.

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    I've lost 50+ lbs with no weight training (unless you count doing workouts while carrying a 20 month old :wink: ), but I'm planning on starting next week (I'm healing from an injury). I have another 40-50 lbs to go.
  • nikki_zav
    nikki_zav Posts: 320 Member
    Absolutely!! If you have not worked out or done other cardio in general for a while, your muscles are used to doing what you have done to get to the weight you are. Like it's often said, start slow and build up so you do not risk injuring yourself. Lifting weights or doing other 'muscle building' exercises will get your muscles conditioned to being active, building strength all around your body, and supporting you to be more effective at cardio. Plus, the more muscle you have, the more energy it takes for you to basically function every day. This essentially equals an auto-boost in metabolism.
  • fishgutzy
    fishgutzy Posts: 2,807 Member
    Combine cardio and lifting by not resting between sets while lifting. I rotate through 2 to 4 different lifts at a time with at most a 10 second stop between. Get my heart rate up nicely.
  • Guamybear
    Guamybear Posts: 1,061 Member
    Weights are definitely needed... some say more than cardio.. I think they go hand in hand in the beginning when you want to lose weight.

    Building muscle helps burn more calories even after your done lifting. Start with light weights and when those are no longer a challenge next weight up..You won't get bulky, just stronger.
  • Imasummerbug
    Imasummerbug Posts: 6 Member
    One of my trainers told me that at first if you are very overweight, your own body weight while doing the cardio works as your weight exercise. But later you need to add weights as your body slims down, since you are not carrying around as much.
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
    One of my trainers told me that at first if you are very overweight, your own body weight while doing the cardio works as your weight exercise. But later you need to add weights as your body slims down, since you are not carrying around as much.

    Laughably incorrect
  • All good comments, thanks! I know I definitely need the cardio so I'm going to start with that 3x a week and maybe more if I can commit to that. Then maybe I'll get a trainer just for a few sessions so he/she can show me what weights to use.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    One of my trainers told me that at first if you are very overweight, your own body weight while doing the cardio works as your weight exercise. But later you need to add weights as your body slims down, since you are not carrying around as much.

    To get the benefits of strength training, you need progressive overload resistance. Since your body already supports itself moving around, your cardio will not give you that with bodyweight alone. You would have to do bodyweight strenght training exercises like pushups, squats, dips, etc to get strength training from your own bodyweight.