About Margarine

If it says 0 trans fats then it does actually contain trans fats......I bet dollars to donuts that's what it says.

??? Saying 0 trans fats does not mean something contains trans fats. It's not a guarantee that they don't, but it's certainly not a guarantee that they do.

All you need to do is read the ingredients to see if hydrogenated or paritally hydrogenated oil is listed. If it is, there are trans fats, even if the label says 0 trans fats. This is because if the amount of trans fat "per serving" is under a certain amount the label can round down to 0.

Exactly.

I don't even know if it does say "0 Trans fats." I looked at the ingredients, not the advertising on the front.

I looked, yes it says 0 trans fats.

If it says 0 trans fats then it does actually contain trans fats......I bet dollars to donuts that's what it says.

??? Saying 0 trans fats does not mean something contains trans fats. It's not a guarantee that they don't, but it's certainly not a guarantee that they do.

All you need to do is read the ingredients to see if hydrogenated or paritally hydrogenated oil is listed. If it is, there are trans fats, even if the label says 0 trans fats. This is because if the amount of trans fat "per serving" is under a certain amount the label can round down to 0.

Exactly.

I don't even know if it does say "0 Trans fats." I looked at the ingredients, not the advertising on the front.

I looked, yes it says 0 trans fats.

OK. And

I read the ingredients. There is no partially hydrogenated oil. It used to have that, which is why I stopped eating it. I happened to look again two weeks ago and it's not listed anymore.

Your point is moot, dude.

It's my understanding that steak contains natural trans fat. Do you avoid that, as well?

Dear OP

There's a really cool website called Snopes that you can search before you post complete falsehoods. Give it a try.

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp

No way for me to know about this website before you posted it and honestly why not ask MFP? You all know everything right? :yawn:

Uhh, haven't heard of snopes? WOW! Just FYI, some other sites you might want to know about are called "google.com" (for finding things on teh intarwebs) and "wikipedia.org"

If it says 0 trans fats then it does actually contain trans fats......I bet dollars to donuts that's what it says.

??? Saying 0 trans fats does not mean something contains trans fats. It's not a guarantee that they don't, but it's certainly not a guarantee that they do.

All you need to do is read the ingredients to see if hydrogenated or paritally hydrogenated oil is listed. If it is, there are trans fats, even if the label says 0 trans fats. This is because if the amount of trans fat "per serving" is under a certain amount the label can round down to 0.

If this product actually contained no trans fats then they could legally say "no trans fats" and they would say that if they could. Considering all refined polyunsaturated vegetable oil, which is mainly what they use like soy, will contains some trans fats from the deodorizing process and don't actually need to be hydrogenated they can't say "no trans fats" legally they can say 0 trans fats and that fools the general population enough to believe 0 mean none.

You are making quite an assumption, aren't you? "0 trans fats" is usually listed in the nutrition section, which typically only allows for numbers (0 gm cholesterol, 65 mg sodium, etc.). I've never seen a label have the word "no" there.

Hydrogenated vegetables oils have been linked to heart disease are are best avoided. Non-hydrogenated vegetable oils have been shown to improve heatlh markers. There is no reason to avoid them.

I believe it's you that is making assumptions. If a company removes all fat from their product, then they can legally say no trans fats, check for yourself. Even some products that have no fat say they have no trans fat, kinda sneaky, but true. Continue to eat whatever you want, hey if you believe there isn't any, then don't worry about anything I'm saying.

I don't understand your point. Why is it sneaky to say something with no fat has no trans fat?

If it says 0 trans fats then it does actually contain trans fats......I bet dollars to donuts that's what it says.

??? Saying 0 trans fats does not mean something contains trans fats. It's not a guarantee that they don't, but it's certainly not a guarantee that they do.

All you need to do is read the ingredients to see if hydrogenated or paritally hydrogenated oil is listed. If it is, there are trans fats, even if the label says 0 trans fats. This is because if the amount of trans fat "per serving" is under a certain amount the label can round down to 0.

If this product actually contained no trans fats then they could legally say "no trans fats" and they would say that if they could. Considering all refined polyunsaturated vegetable oil, which is mainly what they use like soy, will contains some trans fats from the deodorizing process and don't actually need to be hydrogenated they can't say "no trans fats" legally they can say 0 trans fats and that fools the general population enough to believe 0 mean none.

You are making quite an assumption, aren't you? "0 trans fats" is usually listed in the nutrition section, which typically only allows for numbers (0 gm cholesterol, 65 mg sodium, etc.). I've never seen a label have the word "no" there.

Hydrogenated vegetables oils have been linked to heart disease are are best avoided. Non-hydrogenated vegetable oils have been shown to improve heatlh markers. There is no reason to avoid them.

I believe it's you that is making assumptions. If a company removes all fat from their product, then they can legally say no trans fats, check for yourself. Even some products that have no fat say they have no trans fat, kinda sneaky, but true. Continue to eat whatever you want, hey if you believe there isn't any, then don't worry about anything I'm saying.

I don't understand your point. Why is it sneaky to say something with no fat has no trans fat?

It's because trans fats are bad for us, and the producers of packaged food have a big area on their packaging to promote health and if they can say no trans fats that might help convince people that their product is healthy regardless of all the refined and unnatural other ingredients are there.


http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/food-aliment/trans-eng.php

Trans fatty acids - These are found naturally in small amounts in certain foods (e.g., dairy products, beef and lamb). Also, small amounts of trans fats are formed during the refining of liquid vegetable oils (e.g., canola and soybean oil). Trans fats are also created when manufacturers use a process called "partial hydrogenation." This process turns liquid oil into a semi-solid form, such as shortening or margarine.

margarine tastes off to me. and if i'm eating a cupcake, it had better be made with butter and not some fake crap.

had to re-write a bunch of my grandma's recipes though since she was force fed the "margarine is better than butter line" for decades and can't get out of that rut.

My dad has suffered a major heart attack and had to go to nutrional classes and they told him to stay away from margarine... he got a similar article about it. they have switched to butter...

I do eat butter but I am very lactose intolerant so even a small tab of butter can hurl me into a world of painful stomach cramps and not to mention what else happens. I use the vegan margarine, and most of the time I don't use either at all unless I am eating toast or need it for cooking/baking.

I do however agree that butter is so much healthier for you, I try to tell people that a crude and natural fat such as butter is better with a diet and really should not be left out. You can also make your own salt-free butter at home with a high fat milk and magic bullet I have done it a few times with good results and literally takes only a minute or two to make.

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp

AH! You beat me to it. ):

I use very little margarine, preferring olive oil, but when I do want margarine, I make it with this recipe and store most of it in the freezer:

http://vegan.com/recipes/bryanna-clark-grogan/bryannas-vegan-butter/

Many commercial margarines have palm oil in them, which I object to using because of the effect on orangutan habitats.

Manage quite easily without eating marge or butter, but a little of either every now and again isn't going to kill you.

Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC... and shares 27 ingredients with PAINT.

Yes! I learned and confirmed this in my organic chemistry classes in college, as a chem minor/ bio major, have learned lots of scary truths about some of these things... knowing this, I avoid it... never really liked it anyways! And as others have said, check ingredients but butter IS GOOD for you, healthy fats are GOOD!

Did they also teach you that water is one molecule away from being explosive hydrogen gas? That's an absolutely meaningless distinction, and one that you'd think a chem minor would be able to recognize as such.

Two scientists walk into a bar
The first one says “I’ll have some H2O.” The second one says, “I’ll have some H2O too.”
Then he dies.

:laugh:

Not all margarines are the same. You'd have to read the ingredients to decide how healthy or unhealthy it is. Avoid any margarine that has partially hydrogenated or hydrogenated oils as an ingredient.

This. Hydrogenated oils bind with vitamins A, D, E, and K and suck them out of your body.

I don't understand your point. Why is it sneaky to say something with no fat has no trans fat?

It's because trans fats are bad for us, and the producers of packaged food have a big area on their packaging to promote health and if they can say no trans fats that might help convince people that their product is healthy regardless of all the refined and unnatural other ingredients are there.

I'm not going to argue about truth in food advertisement. But if there is no fat, there can't possibly be trans fat.

LOL....exactly.