Diet soda
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There is a strong coorelations between artifical sweetners used in diet sodas and the feeling of hunger. Coorelation means not everyone is affected this way, just more then half.
When you say that "Coorelation means not everyone is affected this way, just more then half," it seems like you are saying that drinking pop causes hunger in more than half of people.
This is not what correlation means. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation means that two things tend to happen together. It does not say one causes the other. There could be a third factor.
For example, maybe people who drink diet pop tend to be more concerned about their weight, so they also exercise more, thus leading them to be hungrier. (I am not saying this is the true case of why people who drink diet pop are hungrier, just giving an example of how drinking diet pop can trend with being hungrier, but not actually be caused by the pop)
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I personally drink about 2 cans a day! There are a lot of worse things out there, and personally I would rather have a Cherry Coke Zero than alcohol and I feel like that is completely okay. No ones diet is perfect, and if thats the one imperfection you wanna have, I say go for it!0
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I was very addicted to regular soda. Last year when I started Weight Watchers I cut all soda out completely. I did great. No real cravings. I started rewarding myself with Diet Coke. I was in heaven. All of a sudden I started craving sweets and carbs. I had read that could happen, but never believed it. I now do. Do I still have Diet Coke? Yes. I drink it in moderation. If I'm doing well that day and want soda, I try to fit in a regular. Good Luck!0
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I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not. Do you really think 40 mg of sodium is a lot? 1/16th of a teaspoon of salt has about 150 mg of sodium. I have a diet coke everyday and my sodium intake is typically around 1500-1800 mg per day on a 2000 calorie diet.So you're saying.. it's not full of sodium.. and it does qunech your thirst?
hmm
Sodium in Classic Diet Sodas
Classic diet sodas, such as Diet Pepsi and Diet Coke, typically contain about 35 to 40 mg of sodium per 12-oz. serving. Caffeine-free diet sodas, Splenda-sweetened diet sodas and sodas flavored with cherry or lime contain about the same amount of sodium
thats a lot of sodium for a 12 oucnce drink.. How much water do you have to drink in order to flush that out?? Yea.. makes you thirsty.
Soda diet or otherwise is also link to hunger. There is a strong coorelations between artifical sweetners used in diet sodas and the feeling of hunger. Coorelation means not everyone is affected this way, just more then half.
Also.. anything that is made made is not healthy and our bodies are not intended to eat it. Eating whole fresh food is what you need to look at to acheive health, including what you choose to drink. Does that mena i never eat a granola bar or drink booze? Of course not. But if you're really looking to change your habits, you need to change them all, 1 at a time.
You can rationsalize it or justify drinking or eating anything you want anyyway you want. That does not change the actual health benefits or lack of them of a particular item.0 -
Well there's this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/diet-soda-stroke-heart-attack_n_1247195.html
Why would you even question it though? It doesn't take a medical journal to tell you that stuff is made up of chemicals. Drink water. If I want a soda I drink ONE and make sure it's made of sugar not corn syrup or aspartame, or whatever. Or I have my fizzy water, or kombucha.0 -
I gave up Diet Coke about 6 or 8 weeks ago. I had a 6 can a day habit, and had tried to cut back to three. I finally just gave it up cold turkey. I do allow myself one a week. There are just some meals that "require" a diet coke to go with them (tacos).
I am also saving a LOT of money at the grocery store. Now I drink water or iced tea.0 -
Once again, moderation is the key. I have one 12 oz diet coke that might take me two days to drink, though I think one or two bottles wouldn't do any harm. I also think the jury is still out on whether or not there is truly any danger in aspartame. I think some people are more sensitive to than others. It's that way for a lot of foods and additives.0
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You know what's also made up of chemicals?Well there's this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/diet-soda-stroke-heart-attack_n_1247195.html
Why would you even question it though? It doesn't take a medical journal to tell you that stuff is made up of chemicals. Drink water. If I want a soda I drink ONE and make sure it's made of sugar not corn syrup or aspartame, or whatever. Or I have my fizzy water, or kombucha.
WATER. Better not drink any... And "fizzy water" is made by injecting chemicals (carbon dioxide) into regular water.0 -
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My work here is done.There is a strong coorelations between artifical sweetners used in diet sodas and the feeling of hunger. Coorelation means not everyone is affected this way, just more then half.
When you say that "Coorelation means not everyone is affected this way, just more then half," it seems like you are saying that drinking pop causes hunger in more than half of people.
This is not what correlation means. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation means that two things tend to happen together. It does not say one causes the other. There could be a third factor.
For example, maybe people who drink diet pop tend to be more concerned about their weight, so they also exercise more, thus leading them to be hungrier. (I am not saying this is the true case of why people who drink diet pop are hungrier, just giving an example of how drinking diet pop can trend with being hungrier, but not actually be caused by the pop)
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I have been heavily addicted to Diet Soda for years! I figured it's diet so I'm fine. Since I dropped all soda, I have realized that having it actually hindered my weight loss.
I have heard so many bad things about it... do your research and if you quit it, do it slowly.0 -
Don't worry yet then......................I've been drinking it for more than 20 years with no health consequences.I'm 28, and being recently married caused me to think in 20 years I don't want to have health consequences from aspartame from a new study with definitive answers.
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could you argue this is similar to people who smoke their whole lives and never get cancer?0 -
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For every study that makes the correlation that diet soda leads to weight gain (which is silly in the first place,) there are just as many studies that show diet soda correlates with weight loss.0 -
For every study that makes the correlation that diet soda leads to weight gain (which is silly in the first place,) there are just as many studies that show diet soda correlates with weight loss.
Be that as it may, I agree with his opinion on the matter.0 -
I don't know if anyone has said this already but I would recommend the diet sodas with Splenda over aspartame. I personally agree that aspartame is a horrible chemical, along with most artificial sweeteners. They do some pretty gross things inside your body.
Do some research and you WILL see. I own rats and if you give them artificial sweeteners in their food over a period of time they will develop some crazy health problems (kidney failure, thyroid problems...) It's kind of like having my own lab at home- if I wouldn't give it to my rats, I wouldn't give it to me either. They're little humans as far as any medical tests are concerned.
Anyway, I digress. But Splenda is great and the only concern with it is that if you're putting it in EVERYTHING you eat (ex: numerous diet sodas a day, plus splenda desserts and splenda on fruit...) you could lead yourself into having too much chlorine in your body. Splenda is really, in a twisted sense, chlorinated sugar we process differently. But WAY better than most artificial sweeteners.
Ever think about maybe adding some Nectresse or Truvia into unsweetened tea or lemonade for a little zing without the worry?? I would have recommended them as great soda sweetener replacements, but I've yet to see a soda that has these IDEAL sweeteners in their ingredients *sigh*0 -
They do some pretty gross things inside your body.
Ok, name some gross things they do.Do some research and you WILL see.
I have done research on aspartame specifically and I do not agree with your conclusion unless you are consuming ridiculous amounts of it or if you have PKU and cannot properly metabolize phenylalanine.I own rats and if you give them artificial sweeteners in their food over a period of time they will develop some crazy health problems (kidney failure, thyroid problems...) It's kind of like having my own lab at home- if I wouldn't give it to my rats, I wouldn't give it to me either. They're little humans as far as any medical tests are concerned.
Most of the rodent studies that show harmful effects are using doses of aspartame that are WAY beyond human consumption limits. This doesn't mean that smaller amounts of it are harmful to humans.0 -
Rats are not "little humans." The vast majority of studies that show harmful consequences in rats don't carry over to human studies. And there are many, many things that will kill humans outright that rats have no problem with. Bubonic plague for starters.I don't know if anyone has said this already but I would recommend the diet sodas with Splenda over aspartame. I personally agree that aspartame is a horrible chemical, along with most artificial sweeteners. They do some pretty gross things inside your body.
Do some research and you WILL see. I own rats and if you give them artificial sweeteners in their food over a period of time they will develop some crazy health problems (kidney failure, thyroid problems...) It's kind of like having my own lab at home- if I wouldn't give it to my rats, I wouldn't give it to me either. They're little humans as far as any medical tests are concerned.
Anyway, I digress. But Splenda is great and the only concern with it is that if you're putting it in EVERYTHING you eat (ex: numerous diet sodas a day, plus splenda desserts and splenda on fruit...) you could lead yourself into having too much chlorine in your body. Splenda is really, in a twisted sense, chlorinated sugar we process differently. But WAY better than most artificial sweeteners.
Ever think about maybe adding some Nectresse or Truvia into unsweetened tea or lemonade for a little zing without the worry?? I would have recommended them as great soda sweetener replacements, but I've yet to see a soda that has these IDEAL sweeteners in their ingredients *sigh*0 -
I don't know if anyone has said this already but I would recommend the diet sodas with Splenda over aspartame. I personally agree that aspartame is a horrible chemical, along with most artificial sweeteners. They do some pretty gross things inside your body.
Do some research and you WILL see. I own rats and if you give them artificial sweeteners in their food over a period of time they will develop some crazy health problems (kidney failure, thyroid problems...) It's kind of like having my own lab at home- if I wouldn't give it to my rats, I wouldn't give it to me either. They're little humans as far as any medical tests are concerned.
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The wikipedia page seemed informative to me. Diet soda has been good for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy
Aspartame has been found to be safe for human consumption by more than ninety countries worldwide,[50][51] with FDA officials describing aspartame as "one of the most thoroughly tested and studied food additives the agency has ever approved" and its safety as "clear cut",[52] but has been the subject of several controversies, hoaxes[3] and health scares.[53]0 -
Dr Oz is a quack..
Not sure what you meant by "quack"... but,
According to The New York Times, Dr. Oz is "one of the most accomplished cardiothoracic surgeons of his generation." Over the course of his career, he has performed 5,000 open-heart surgeries, has successfully transplanted people's lungs and is just generally in the upper fraction of the top one-tenth of a percent of doctors you want standing over your split-open chest cavity in life-and-death situations. While that description would admittedly make a pretty badass business card, there's no way it would fit with all the other things he's accomplished, even if you only count stuff he did while I was taking naps.
Oz graduated from Harvard before moving over to the University of Pennsylvania, because they have the best business school in the world and he wanted to earn an MBA while going to medical school, in case the whole "being the world's best heart surgeon" thing didn't work out. He completed his five years' worth of schooling in three, which is the fastest time allowable before they start checking you for wires to make sure you're not a robot from the future.
It might seem like bad news that America lost its smartest doctor to the world of daytime TV, but it's not that simple. First of all, he didn't stop being a doctor. When he's not walking a middle-aged housewife through a gigantic model of her husband's swollen urethra on national television, Dr. Oz is still the acting director of the Cardiovascular Institute and Complementary Medicine Program at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, which you might recognize as one of the 10 best hospitals in the country. He spends most of his week writing and filming his show, but on Thursdays he can still be found performing complicated open-heart surgeries that take hours and require him to take people's lives in his hands.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-dumb-celebrities-who-are-way-smarter-than-you-think/0 -
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What is everybodies feeling on diet soda. i am addicted but am reading that even the diet stuff may be bad. Any thoughts?
What ingredient are you addicted to, the caffeine? Doesn't it bother you to need a drug so bad you'd do anything to get it including sell your granny?0 -
Dr Oz is a quack..
Not sure what you meant by "quack"... but,
I'm sure his knowledge and intelligence are fine outside of his show, but it is absolutely 100% abundantly clear that he's a sellout, pushing dietary supplements and making claims that reach so far beyond the research that he's doing a massive disservice in misleading people.
This is plain as day.0 -
"Quack" as in, yes, he's a cardiologist. He isn't a registered dietician, nor any kind of nutrition or weight loss expert. A "quack" because he consistently pushes products on his show that have little or no actual scientific support, promising quick fixes and miracles for people, when the products tend to be completely ineffective when they are eventually studied. A "quack" because he doesn't stick to cardiac surgery, and panders to vulnerable audiences for ratings and money. If he would stick to his specialty (cardiac surgery,) nobody would have an issue with him.Dr Oz is a quack..
Not sure what you meant by "quack"... but,
According to The New York Times, Dr. Oz is "one of the most accomplished cardiothoracic surgeons of his generation." Over the course of his career, he has performed 5,000 open-heart surgeries, has successfully transplanted people's lungs and is just generally in the upper fraction of the top one-tenth of a percent of doctors you want standing over your split-open chest cavity in life-and-death situations. While that description would admittedly make a pretty badass business card, there's no way it would fit with all the other things he's accomplished, even if you only count stuff he did while I was taking naps.
Oz graduated from Harvard before moving over to the University of Pennsylvania, because they have the best business school in the world and he wanted to earn an MBA while going to medical school, in case the whole "being the world's best heart surgeon" thing didn't work out. He completed his five years' worth of schooling in three, which is the fastest time allowable before they start checking you for wires to make sure you're not a robot from the future.
It might seem like bad news that America lost its smartest doctor to the world of daytime TV, but it's not that simple. First of all, he didn't stop being a doctor. When he's not walking a middle-aged housewife through a gigantic model of her husband's swollen urethra on national television, Dr. Oz is still the acting director of the Cardiovascular Institute and Complementary Medicine Program at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, which you might recognize as one of the 10 best hospitals in the country. He spends most of his week writing and filming his show, but on Thursdays he can still be found performing complicated open-heart surgeries that take hours and require him to take people's lives in his hands.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-dumb-celebrities-who-are-way-smarter-than-you-think/0 -
Diet is worse for you than the regular stuff, but it all is BAD.
I used to be addicted to Diet Coke, it was hard to give it up but worth it for better health.
Now when I do want a soda I'll have a regular coke.
I do notice that I frequently get sick after indulging in soda pop & found out that it also suppresses
your immune system! so this time of year ( flu season) is a good time to NOT drink any!0 -
Not sure what you meant by "quack"... but,
The theme of one of his shows was "How talking to the dead relieves stress."
I kid you not.
Quack.0 -
I drink diet soda now and then. It is def not good for you but, i choose diet soda over all that simple sugar in regular soda.0
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If you're sensitive to the ingredients, and I do believe some people are, don't drink it.
If your goal is to have as healthy a diet as humanly possible, don't drink it.
If it makes you bloat and that bothers you, don't drink it.
if you believe it's just plain toxic, don't drink it.
Me, I take stronger chemicals on a daily basis to keep me sane, I somehow doubt that the chemicals in Diet Coke are going to do me any great harm, therefore I drink it in moderation.
Edited to add: I find regular sodas too sweet, and they do induce sugar cravings for me.
If the contents of diet soda were poisonous or toxic, including aspartame, one would think they'd have figured it out sometime in the last 60 years, 30 for aspartame.0 -
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