Heavy lifting leads to sagging?

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  • DaisyAliceB
    DaisyAliceB Posts: 17 Member
    Sadly her program is actually pretty sucessful in achieving the look she's going for. You've heard of the warrior diet and the spartan program? Well hers is kinda like what happens when the warriors get captured and put into a POW camp. Really really low cals, hardly any protein or fat and performing a light manual task over and over and over again. Clearly thats going to leave you skinny and weak which is what she's after....

    *giggling*

    Don't want to flog a dead horse but THREE lbs?!
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    I lost 100 pounds in 10 months. I think the only thing that saved me from sagging IS lifting. ***** is nuts. End of story.

    WOW! This is extremely impressive! Most people on here insist that you can't lose more than 1/2 pound a week while lifting, but you sure blow that theory out of the water. Congrats on your hard work and success. You look fantastic! There is nothing sagging on you, dear!
  • aproc
    aproc Posts: 1,033 Member
    I want to punch this Anderson chick in the face.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    oh wait..
    you wanted women. here's ernestine shepherd. she's in her 80s


    Ernestine-Shepherd-Bodybuilder.jpg

    man, i've just been out done by an 80 year old.

    My new super hero! I have 30 yrs to work on getting this body! I think I will need every one of them.
  • hmadrone
    hmadrone Posts: 129 Member
    "Focus on accessory muscles around the larger thigh and belly muscles, which can give you a more balanced look. "
    I can kinda see the logic. Take a look at Arnold; he overtrained and now he looks horrible.

    3 pounds, though? I guess moms shouldn't lift babies, then!

    Anyway, I agree that you shouldn't just focus on the big muscles. For health, you should work antagonistic and accessory muscles too, particularly if you want to support your joints. Even development is really important.
  • wellbert
    wellbert Posts: 3,924 Member
    The collars on my wife's barbell weigh more than 3 lbs.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    People like Tracy Anderson leave females, who are unfamiliar with how exercise actually works, with the impression that they should rely on her methods because of the malnourished look of many Hollywood stars that makes them look good on TV. It's a disservice to people like myself who actually studied kineosiology and physiology.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • upgetupgetup
    upgetupgetup Posts: 749 Member
    People like Tracy Anderson leave females, who are unfamiliar with how exercise actually works, with the impression that they should rely on her methods because of the malnourished look of many Hollywood stars that makes them look good on TV. It's a disservice to people like myself who actually studied kineosiology and physiology.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    Ah! Maybe you can help me understand how the accessory muscles might be worked without involving the big "abdomen" or "thigh" ones. Because to me it sounds 1) impossible, or freakish, at the least or 2) like a total waste of time.
  • funkycamper
    funkycamper Posts: 998 Member
    I especially chuckled when, in the video, Gwynnie said that the arm she uses to carry her 25# kid around with is firmer than the other one so she has to work out the non-kid-carrying arm more. WTF? Is she too dumb to use any logic?

    In the swimsuit photo, she is skinny-fat with a droopy behind. The poster child for what-not-to-do.
  • HeidiMightyRawr
    HeidiMightyRawr Posts: 3,343 Member
    As soon as I saw "Tracy Anderson" I stopped reading. Everything she says gets on my nerves, including her opinion on how women shouldn't lift more than 3lbs! :explode: I wouldn't trust her at all if I were you.
  • jha1223
    jha1223 Posts: 141 Member
    Three pounds? Well I guess that leaves out ANY barbell weights... pass.

    The best looking woman in the office is one who is four months pregnant (just announced this weekend). Guess what .. she weight trains. She must be doing something wrong.
  • dhakiyya
    dhakiyya Posts: 481 Member
    Oh my daays!!! however did Mrs Homo erectus survive if it's harmful for women to lift more than 3lb???? Put that lump of rock down, mrs homo erectus, your muscles will get saggy. tell mr homo erectus to make a hand axe for you (just a little tiny one, you don't want to strain yourself carrying it..) don't carry that animal carcass either, your uterus will fall out. I don't care if you've got nothing else to eat, you mustn't carry it! put your children down and make them walk, and don't carry all those heavy plant foods back to the cave. make Mr homo erectus do it instead! lifting more than 3lb will endanger the entire species and homo sapiens will never evolve!!!

    My advice: if anyone ever tells you it's not safe for women to lift more than 3lb, tell them that a newborn baby weighs on average 7lb and ask them how they think the human race survived....
  • jha1223
    jha1223 Posts: 141 Member
    My advice: if anyone ever tells you it's not safe for women to lift more than 3lb, tell them that a newborn baby weighs on average 7lb and ask them how they think the human race survived....

    Obviously get someone else to carry the baby! It is too much for her.
  • Natashaa1991
    Natashaa1991 Posts: 866 Member
    no. i lift. just no.
  • brit_ks_89
    brit_ks_89 Posts: 433 Member
    are you serious ? SAGGING SKIN FROM BUILDING MUSCLE.. AHHAHAHHAHA NO.........
  • mousepaws22
    mousepaws22 Posts: 380 Member
    That video is the funniest thing I have ever seen. Gwyneth Paltrow really needs to invest in some sports bras.
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    says celebrity fitness instructor Tracy Anderson.

    Houston, we have a problem...
  • Ironhorseman
    Ironhorseman Posts: 2 Member
    Thank you!!!!! Your pics look great keep it up
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    LOL Tracy Anderson.

    Ever seen this? Preposterous
    http://www.oprah.com/health/Gwyneth-Paltrows-Workout-Routine

    The same Gwyneth Paltrow who developed osteopenia? Funny that.
  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
    Exactly, "says Tracy Anderson" should send up all sorts of warning flags. I can't take her seriously, and especially not on the subject of lifting heavy, as she knows nothing about that.
  • Amazon_Who
    Amazon_Who Posts: 1,092 Member
    Cory Everson at age 50.
    http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/attachments/female-forum/16489d1201208118-cory-everson-50-7t5u7v5tj82s93x8v1a5.jpg

    Scroll down to check out Clarence Bass at age 75.
    http://www.cbass.com/PICTORAL.HTM#Still

    Frank Zane at 65.
    http://blog.bodybuilding.com/BodyBBDKing/mediaresource/54259be1-e381-49be-b9ff-c5ab4375f73e

    What a saggy lot.
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    Don't forget that along with her "method" you have a wonderful diet (called a "dynamic diet") of only 800 calories a day!

    The recipe for total health and fitness!
  • Delicate
    Delicate Posts: 625 Member
    What is an accessory muscle, can you change them if you get bored? what colours do they come in?

    Proper training involves most your muscles in that area (primary muscles and secondary muscle benefit), muscles are complex things that usually work in groups. Except your tongue that can be evil, but even then that needs your jaw to move to get its point across!

    think i'd rather lift, eat properly, have stronger bones and muscles, for whenever i get older (well alot older) and be alot less likely to break a bone over a small fall through malnutrishion (sp?) over a long period of time and not training.

    Go weight lifting grannies!
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    That video is the funniest thing I have ever seen. Gwyneth Paltrow really needs to invest in some sports bras.

    Yes. Her boobs look horrible. Little boobs are not supposed to sag like that even after have babies. Maybe if she did some bench press.... Oh wait.

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