Truth about Soy,Almond Milk

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"Health concernsThe Joint FAO/WHO expert committee on food additives states that, "based on the information available, it is inadvisable to use carrageenan or processed eucheuma seaweed in infant formulas".[14] There is evidence from studies performed on rats, guinea pigs, and monkeys that indicates that degraded carrageenan (poligeenan) may cause ulcerations in the gastro-intestinal tract and gastro-intestinal cancer.[15] Poligeenan is produced from carrageenan subjected to high temperatures and acidity. The average carrageenan molecule weighs over 100,000 Da while poligeenans have a molecular weight of less than 50,000 Da. A scientific committee working on behalf of the European Commission has recommended that the amount of degraded carrageenan be limited to a maximum of 5% (which is the limit of detection) of total carrageenan mass. Upon testing samples of foods containing high molecular weight carrageens, researchers found no poligeenan.[16]"

Ehh.. I wouldn't drink any sort of milk after it has been subjected to high temperatures or acidity.
However, this may be worrying:

"A recent publication[17] indicates that carrageenan induces inflammation in human intestinal epithelial cells in tissue culture through a BCL10-mediated pathway that leads to activation of NFkappaB and IL-8. Carrageenan may be immunogenic due to its unusual alpha-1,3-galactosidic link that is part of its disaccharide unit structure. Consumption of carrageenan may have a role in intestinal inflammation and possibly inflammatory bowel disease, since BCL10 resembles NOD2, mutations of which are associated with genetic proclivity to Crohn's Disease.

Carrageenan is reported to interfere with macrophage activity.[18][19][20]"

ah, wikipedia. Excellent source of peer reviewed information.

What a complete and utter load of bull****.

The fact that I just spent 10 minutes wasting my time makes me disappointed in myself as well.

1) Wikipedia.........wikipedia

2) Did you even bother to read the sources that they linked in the references part in the Wiki article?

3) The 3 studies that they referred to in the health concerns (18,19.20) all had to do with mice and guinea pigs. On top of that, the carrageenan was injected. INJECTED.

4) CRAZY CONCEPT OF THE DAY: When you inject things into your body instead of eat them, it will behave differently. Your liver and kidneys filter out things for a living, that's their job and it's what they do until the day you die. Injecting bypasses the digestion phase and has ZERO relevance to eating/drinking something that contains very small amounts of carrageenan.

5) The amounts injected, on top of the low body-weight of the test mice, means that drinking almond milk at the typical weight of a human being will have no relevance to these studies.

There are other websites that say the same thing, thats just one of them.-You know what I give up and don't care anymore do what you want.

Good.

When you post wikipedia articles with complete bull**** sources that have mice being injected with something and say it's unhealthy for humans right after then you need to take a step back and re-evaluate your position and why you're trying to "inform" people of their supposedly crappy dietary choices.

You know what else can kill you in large amounts when injected? Water. We better stop drinking water in order to be healthy.

If we want to talk about about a powerful lobby influencing food and nutrition information in the market place, let's talk about the dairy industry.

Com'on peeps-- biologically, we're designed to drink HUMAN milk until we're about 6. . . and not much older than that.

I love almond milk, and much less concerned about a naturally-occurring seaweed extract than I am about the long-perpetuated myth that we, as adult mammals, should be drinking the mammilian extract of ANOTHER mammal in large quantities on a daily basis.

This is why there are tests that can look for:

a) dairy allergies

and

b) lactose tolerance issues

Certain populations have a much easier time digesting milk compared to others. If you get tested and have no issues drinking milk, eating cheese, etc then there is no problem consuming dairy products.

Com'on peeps-- biologically, we're designed to drink HUMAN milk until we're about 6. . . and not much older than that.

I love almond milk, and much less concerned about a naturally-occurring seaweed extract than I am about the long-perpetuated myth that we, as adult mammals, should be drinking the mammilian extract of ANOTHER mammal in large quantities on a daily basis.

agreed!

So I didn't mean to get you all worked up about this, just wondering where you get your information so maybe I might learn the correct theory on this subject? You seem to know alot on several subjects and do alot of posting to better inform people, so maybe if you could point me in the correct direction of maybe a website or book that you support?

I just think research of legitimate sources and personal responsibility are a good start. Evaluate their testing methods and the sources quoted to see if it's reasonable to believe in something before you pass it on to people who may believe without questioning.

Brilliant topic.

Soya is hard for your body to digest. Coconut water is good, but I know the taste... Not coconut milk, but water! xx Brilliant for you! xx

None of you have proven anything.

Hey guys, wish this post was deleted, I have changed my opinion on soy after further investigating and reading up on it from MD's etc. anyway I still don't like carrageenan. And I apologize for being so blunt with my original post. Just ignore this whole thread and go on with your regular activities and read up on anything your curious about from reliable sources, don't try to learn things from random people on MFP. We are always learning things, and don't get mad at the ignorant, they can't help what they don't know. And that doesn't mean you know it all either. Goodbye!

Soy is genetically modified as most of our food and animal feed as well (wheat, soy, corn, etc etc)


-Autism has increased 20 fold in one generation.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/autism/la-me-autism-day-one-html,0,1218038.htmlstory




GMO danger by Dr Mercola
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/04/27/19-studies-link-gmo-foods-to-organ-disruption.aspx

Soy Infant Formula
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/agents/sya-soy-formula/index.cfm


-Infertility is a rising problem by Dr Rosemary Leonard
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4243/Infertility-rising-problem.html

Key words, " 'unexplained' fertility" in the article


-Genetically modified soy linked to sterility, infant mortaliy in hamsters
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html



Soy is bad.

Non GMO fermented soy is healthy BUT we live in an estrogen dominant environment.

Avoid estrogen at all costs!


-Esposure to Air Pollution in pregnancy may boost chances of of obesity in kids
http://healthland.time.com/2012/04/17/exposure-to-air-pollution-in-pregnancy-may-boost-chances-of-obese-kids/



You are what you eat.