Still not really losing

Le Sigh!

Who ever said that the OP is 4 foot? I was proving the poster wrong of the assumption that 1300 can not be excessive by providing an example.

i think you'll find you told the OP that she was gaining lean muscle on 1300 cals....

yet now you're saying that at 5ft6, 1300 cals is not excessive, so that wouldnt be the case?

You CAN gain Lean Muscle on 1300. You don't need to eat in excess to gain... it's called Newbie Gains

to gain muscle yes but you should still lose weight.

amirite?

Of course yes, you can lose weight which is what i've done over the past 4 months, but from the OP's picture, granted it is hard to see but it looks like she is quite slim already, so that small weight gain could be LM

Sounds like you are gaining Lean Muscle to me.

Keep it up

Haed/desk. Yeah because it's soooo easy to gain lean muscle when your a girl. We just have to look at a pair of 3k pink dumbbells and thats it, we buff up straight away!! :explode:

OP I'd work out your TDEE and take about 15% - 20% from it to produce a small deficit, rather than trying to stick to around 1300.

What on earth are you chatting?

1350 is a good rough estimate for her age and height, so eating less will do no good, 1350 does sound like a good number as her TDEE will be around 1600.

So if she is 'working out pretty hard every day' then it is quite likely that she is gaining Lean Muscle, your assumption of whatever you thought i was getting at is totally misguided and immature.

^ Que?! :huh:

I'm 30yrs old and the same height as the OP. My TDEE -20% gives me 1700. 1350 with working out is low, especially as she only has a few lbs to lose.
And no. You cannot gain muscle on a calorific deficit. N00b gains will only get you so far and after a month they will go. In truth, you are getting stronger and cutting the fat over the muscle. You are not gaining muscle.

To the OP...
Work out your TDEE be honest with your activity level - if you are working out every day then put it as moderate. Then subtract 15-20% from that. The closer you get to goal the smaller the percentage you need in order to retain LBM and lose fat.

Le Sigh!

Who ever said that the OP is 4 foot? I was proving the poster wrong of the assumption that 1300 can not be excessive by providing an example.

i think you'll find you told the OP that she was gaining lean muscle on 1300 cals....

yet now you're saying that at 5ft6, 1300 cals is not excessive, so that wouldnt be the case?

You CAN gain Lean Muscle on 1300. You don't need to eat in excess to gain... it's called Newbie Gains

Your condescending attitude isn't doing much for your argument. You should provide some evidence, otherwise it's a baseless claim. Saying eating calories above 1300 = excess is just funny.

Learn to read brah!

I said eating 1300 calories could be eating in excess for someone smaller, like 4ft like in the example.

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My tdee is determined to be 2235 by fitness frog.com if I take 20% off that I'm at 1788 calories a day. This sure does seem like alot to be eating and losing weight. Maybe ill try it for a week and see if I can get rid of a few more pounds. Opinions?

One week is'nt long enough in order to gauge the effectiveness of a calorie change. You need to do it for a month really and try to avoid the scale apart from maybe once a week.

(And 1788 sounds about right The 2235 is your maintenance number, so anything under that is a calorific deficit for you)

at 5ft6 and 130somethign pounds you are not overweight, you just maybe need to 'tone up' a bit....

my advice would be to set your calorie goal at lose 1/2lb, eat back your exercise calories (if you dont already) and try and make sure you eat plenty of protein and good fat, aim to get your 5 portions of fruit and veg a day and look at a decent full body strength training routine so lose a bit of bodyfat.

Before this gets lost in the bickering, the above is excellent advice.

at 5ft6 and 130somethign pounds you are not overweight, you just maybe need to 'tone up' a bit....

my advice would be to set your calorie goal at lose 1/2lb, eat back your exercise calories (if you dont already) and try and make sure you eat plenty of protein and good fat, aim to get your 5 portions of fruit and veg a day and look at a decent full body strength training routine so lose a bit of bodyfat.

Before this gets lost in the bickering, the above is excellent advice.

^ Yes. I set mine to 1/2 lb a week in the beginning and stuck to it (while eating my exercise calories) and I could track 1/2 lb week loss like clockwork. Don't starve yourself as it just aggravated the whole issue. Strength training and cardio with a mild deficit will definitely yield results. Heck, a mild deficit alone can let you lose weight.

Lots of opinions here and a lot of god ones. Yes, if you are building muscle, you are gaining weight. But if you aren't consuming enough calories per day, then you are burning fat and muscle. My suggestion would be to examine what type of calories you are consuming. I have cut all processed sugars, all white foods (bread, rice, etc), dairy, alcohol, and caffeine from my diet and am sticking to 1200 calories per day (age 52, 5'8") and am easily losing 2 pounds per week. I am eating a lot of quinoa, fresh fruits and vegetables and only chicken and fish for meat. I have one protein shake per day right after my work out. I would suggest examining your diet closely.

My tdee is determined to be 2235 by fitness frog.com if I take 20% off that I'm at 1788 calories a day. This sure does seem like alot to be eating and losing weight. Maybe ill try it for a week and see if I can get rid of a few more pounds. Opinions?

Try eating the 1788 cals a day but give it more than a week. A week is not long enough to see any progress. When you up your calories you may see a gain just due to water weight. It is just something that happens when you consume too much sodium, change your exercise routine or increase your calories.

Any changes you do you need to give them a few weeks to see if they will actually work.

If your TDEE is 2235 you were not gaining muscle on 1300. That is too large of a deficit to build any noticeable amount of muscle.

At your height and weight you are in the healthy range. What may be best would be to eat at your TDEE and lift heavy weights for a few weeks. Than drop down your calories to the cut amount and get some cardio in to drop any excess fat. Doing these cycles will build muscle and lower body fat. Muscle growth is what will change the look of your body the most.

My tdee is determined to be 2235 by fitness frog.com if I take 20% off that I'm at 1788 calories a day. This sure does seem like alot to be eating and losing weight. Maybe ill try it for a week and see if I can get rid of a few more pounds. Opinions?

It sounds like a lot because commercial diet programs have pounded the absolute minimum of 1,200 into our heads for so long. Low calorie diets yield rapid but rarely permanent fat loss.

^ THIS! I usually eat 2300 calories on a day when I workout and I have lost steadily without plateauing for a year. Don't be afraid of food it's not the enemy.