Can i eat anything as long as I stay under calorie goal?!?!

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  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    You can if you want. Its the calories that'll determine your weight loss. But making better choices of your food will give your body the nutrition it needs.

    But there's nothing wrong with a Big Mac once a week, say.

    That sounds about right. I have chocolate every day, but it's only a small amount of my total intake. Most of my food is healthy, but delicious.
  • Bsaintelus
    Bsaintelus Posts: 18 Member
    Let me clarify something. I am studying to become a Registered Dietician now, so I am not giving advice with no background
    ...
    Many chain/fast food restaurants contain GMO's and unhealthy additives.
    ...
    it may have other negative effects on the body, even if you exercise routinely, because the additives and processing it goes through at not healthy either.

    Is this information you are getting at school? Or pre-existing opinions? Or something you read on the web or in a "documentary"?

    It seems like it would be a bit odd if this sort of thing is being taught to registered dietitians (who should (IMO) be focusing on science more than opinions - at least during their studies).

    (Oh, and there is no 'c' in 'dietitian' - not trying to be rude)

    Haha. JUDDDing,I'm reading all of your posts and you seem to be one of the more sensible members of this network. Thanks for your input. That said, everyones opinion matters here and no one is definitely wrong about this subject. I have, however eaten alot less fast food and snacks like chocolates and pastries and those delicious premade nestle cookies that come in squares and take like 15 minutes to bake(yumm). These changes have led to immediate results that I can see just by looking in the mirror. I don't think its necessary to stop any "unhealthy" eating habit cold turkey. I think its best to just practice quantity control and have a better understanding of what will make you fat vs. what will make you fit
  • TheConsciousFoody
    TheConsciousFoody Posts: 607 Member
    Agreed. No one will ever be able to tell me to stop eating fast food cold turkey. The smell alone when driving by fast food restaurants would make me want to kill myself...

    This sounds more like a food addiction......and its kind of disturbing. It really doesn't seem like you're ready for a healthy lifestyle change

    Lol it was a joke. I would never kill myself over food haha. However, I do love the smell of McDonalds fries whenever I drive by. I was just saying that it would be very diffcult to keep a diet that forced me to stay completely away from all fast foods. I need to have a spike day once in a while in order to stay on track and not have my taste buds going crazy. Especially when I see friends and family eating whatever they want. Thats the toughest

    Oh thank god. I was actually worried! Its hard. Very hard. Hell, my favorite is a chocolate hazelnut milkshake from Burgerville. I went a whole hear waiting for it to be in season.I've been eating healthy for the last 2 months so I had a small one. It was delicious, when I went to add it in k almost cried. So I worked my butt off that not.

    In all fairness though, I quit smoking cold turkey. All of my friends smoke...my bf smokes...and I am still not smoking, of a puff here and there, of a drag either. No excuses, just say you want it. Its hard but I would be more than willing to make you some amazing burger recipes when you have that craving!
  • angelams1019
    angelams1019 Posts: 1,102 Member

    And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his *kitten*, his insides are going to go *kitten* as well, and he won't be very healthy.

    Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t :smile:

    I'm afraid that this just isn't factually correct. I know it seems so on it's face, but there is no science to back it up. Just the opposite, really. All the data points to that if he loses weight, all of his insides will turn to gold, meaning all of his labs and vitals will improve significantly.

    plus i don't think he's going to eat nothing but mcdonalds every day. i mean, there's got to be a taco bell around his house to mix that *kitten* up sometimes.

    Hahahaha Taco Bell will *kitten* him up foreal! :tongue:

    And if it were true that him simply losing weight equals him being healthy then there would be no unhealthy thin people, and we all know that thats not the case.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    For the love of god please stop talking about McD's, the thought of it makes me feel like I'm going to throw up. >.<:sick:

    It's good to look at the QUALITY of calories than the QUANTITY - what's a few pounds off the scale if I still look & feel like crap? I want to be healthy & feel amazing! Wouldn't you?

    I eat pretty darn well, & the only thing I have regularly in my diet that isn't totally healthy is cheese - I love cheese & don't ever want to give it up, but I do have it more in moderation now, & usually choose mozzarella which is lower in fat & cals in comparison to most other cheese.
    This isn't to say I don't have pizza every once in awhile - I am human.

    I'd much rather eat 2,000 calories of good food than 1,000 calories of fat & sugar.
    Clean eating DOESN'T ensure health. If we're doing direct comparisons of bodies, then my profile should look like **** if quality of food is all that counted when it comes to health. I should have high cholesterol, clogged arteries, massive liver damage and more since I've been eating McD's since 3rd grade. No dice. I'm healthier than many 25 year old males. Goes to show that nutrition is only part of the circle. It's important no doubt, but one doesn't have to eat like a caveman to be healthy.

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  • tndejong
    tndejong Posts: 463
    i just started here a month ago. i lost weight pretty quickly. come week 4 it slowed way way down. i INCREASED my calories and LOST weight. who would have every known! and to get the extra calories i now eat a yummy night time snack. the past two days, nutter butter.. honey bun.. and lost 2 pounds? yep! junk food helped me lose weight! funny how that works.
  • erinkeely4
    erinkeely4 Posts: 408 Member
    Yes, but don't. Because it's horribly unhealthy for you. Once a week? Sure! McDonald's every day? Yeah, if you want to die before you're 50....
  • TheConsciousFoody
    TheConsciousFoody Posts: 607 Member
    Many chain/fast food restaurants contain GMO's and unhealthy additives. Small choices in your diet can affect it more than you know

    Well even "organic" fruits and veggies arent grown with non-GMO seeds....so that's not a valid argument.
  • MinimalistShoeAddict
    MinimalistShoeAddict Posts: 1,946 Member
    So I'm wondering how generous I should be towards my cravings and appetites when it comes to foods that I clearly shouldn't be eating. A Big Mac is supposedly 550 calories and I love me some Micky D's. My calorie goal is around 2,000 so can I eat a Bic Mac or 2 on any given day or should I stay away? Can I eat 5 white choclate macadamian nut cookies once per day like I want to? :laugh: Tryin to get back to bein sexy for the summer! Need motivaton and advice!

    Read this article. It should help answer all your questions:
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

    To be clear I am not recommending this, just stating that if your goal is solely to lose weight it would work. Moderation is the key for most people. When I losing weight last fall I never gave up pizza. Instead I just limited myself to having it 2 days a week or so. Good luck!
  • Gallowmere1984
    Gallowmere1984 Posts: 6,626 Member
    Yes, but don't. Because it's horribly unhealthy for you. Once a week? Sure! McDonald's every day? Yeah, if you want to die before you're 50....

    I don't know why, but this kind of goofy crap always leaves me speechless...
  • nuviag
    nuviag Posts: 131 Member
    You will be skinny fat
  • JUDDDing
    JUDDDing Posts: 1,367 Member
    Thanks for your input. That said, everyones opinion matters here and no one is definitely wrong about this subject. I have, however eaten alot less fast food and snacks like chocolates and pastries and those delicious premade nestle cookies that come in squares and take like 15 minutes to bake(yumm). These changes have led to immediate results that I can see just by looking in the mirror. I don't think its necessary to stop any "unhealthy" eating habit cold turkey. I think its best to just practice quantity control and have a better understanding of what will make you fat vs. what will make you fit

    Yeah, definitely agree. And nothing against having food opinions about additives, sweeteners, GMOs, etc as long as no one (with authority) is trying to pass them off as facts at this point. So it's more about the teaching than the opinions.

    I'm doing the same thing - there's no way I'm skipping pizza for the rest of my life. But every other Friday instead of weekly and half a pizza instead of a whole now. :)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    Yes, but don't. Because it's horribly unhealthy for you. Once a week? Sure! McDonald's every day? Yeah, if you want to die before you're 50....
    Don Gorske would refute this. He's 59 and eats McD's everyday since 1972.:laugh:

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  • angelams1019
    angelams1019 Posts: 1,102 Member
    Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
    Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
    Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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    While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
    Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

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    And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his *kitten*, his insides are going to go *kitten* as well, and he won't be very healthy.

    Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t :smile:
    Well no, the OP never stated that McD's or Macadamia cookies are the staple of their intake. She just asked if she could have it.
    80/20 rule would work here.

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    It doesn't matter if he specifically SAID what he was going to eat or not. He asked if he could eat anything he wanted. My point in saying "Technically yes, but it wouldn't be very healthy" was to say that if "anything you want" are only the things you just listed (or comparable food items), then yes, you will lose weight but no, you will not be healthy.

    If "anything I want" accommodates 80/20, then fine. If "anything I want" accommodates 20/80, I would ASSUME thats not healthy.

    But then again I'm not a professional....Never claimed to be, so what do I know?! lol :flowerforyou:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    You will be skinny fat
    Not if you're lifting heavy!:laugh:

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  • angelams1019
    angelams1019 Posts: 1,102 Member
    Thanks for your input. That said, everyones opinion matters here and no one is definitely wrong about this subject. I have, however eaten alot less fast food and snacks like chocolates and pastries and those delicious premade nestle cookies that come in squares and take like 15 minutes to bake(yumm). These changes have led to immediate results that I can see just by looking in the mirror. I don't think its necessary to stop any "unhealthy" eating habit cold turkey. I think its best to just practice quantity control and have a better understanding of what will make you fat vs. what will make you fit

    Yeah, definitely agree. And nothing against having food opinions about additives, sweeteners, GMOs, etc as long as no one (with authority) is trying to pass them off as facts at this point. So it's more about the teaching than the opinions.

    I'm doing the same thing - there's no way I'm skipping pizza for the rest of my life. But every other Friday instead of weekly and half a pizza instead of a whole now. :)

    I would do dirty things for a well-done pizza with pepperoni, bacon, and ham. Just throw the whole pig on there. :love:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
    Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
    Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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    While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
    Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

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    And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his *kitten*, his insides are going to go *kitten* as well, and he won't be very healthy.

    Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t :smile:
    Well no, the OP never stated that McD's or Macadamia cookies are the staple of their intake. She just asked if she could have it.
    80/20 rule would work here.

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    It doesn't matter if he specifically SAID what he was going to eat or not. He asked if he could eat anything he wanted. My point in saying "Technically yes, but it wouldn't be very healthy" was to say that if "anything you want" are only the things you just listed (or comparable food items), then yes, you will lose weight but no, you will not be healthy.

    If "anything I want" accommodates 80/20, then fine. If "anything I want" accommodates 20/80, I would ASSUME thats not healthy.

    But then again I'm not a professional....Never claimed to be, so what do I know?! lol :flowerforyou:
    I agree on the 20/80!:wink:

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  • Chadomaniac
    Chadomaniac Posts: 1,785 Member
    so to sum it up , yes u can eat what u want if it fits your macros
  • angelams1019
    angelams1019 Posts: 1,102 Member
    Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
    Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
    Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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    While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
    Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his *kitten*, his insides are going to go *kitten* as well, and he won't be very healthy.

    Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t :smile:
    Well no, the OP never stated that McD's or Macadamia cookies are the staple of their intake. She just asked if she could have it.
    80/20 rule would work here.

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    It doesn't matter if he specifically SAID what he was going to eat or not. He asked if he could eat anything he wanted. My point in saying "Technically yes, but it wouldn't be very healthy" was to say that if "anything you want" are only the things you just listed (or comparable food items), then yes, you will lose weight but no, you will not be healthy.

    If "anything I want" accommodates 80/20, then fine. If "anything I want" accommodates 20/80, I would ASSUME thats not healthy.

    But then again I'm not a professional....Never claimed to be, so what do I know?! lol :flowerforyou:
    I agree on the 20/80!:wink:

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  • Fozzi43
    Fozzi43 Posts: 2,984 Member
    Not gonna be good all the time but once in a while is ok providing you have control.
  • spamantha57
    spamantha57 Posts: 674 Member
    For the love of god please stop talking about McD's, the thought of it makes me feel like I'm going to throw up. >.<:sick:

    It's good to look at the QUALITY of calories than the QUANTITY - what's a few pounds off the scale if I still look & feel like crap? I want to be healthy & feel amazing! Wouldn't you?

    I eat pretty darn well, & the only thing I have regularly in my diet that isn't totally healthy is cheese - I love cheese & don't ever want to give it up, but I do have it more in moderation now, & usually choose mozzarella which is lower in fat & cals in comparison to most other cheese.
    This isn't to say I don't have pizza every once in awhile - I am human.

    I'd much rather eat 2,000 calories of good food than 1,000 calories of fat & sugar.
    Clean eating DOESN'T ensure health. If we're doing direct comparisons of bodies, then my profile should look like **** if quality of food is all that counted when it comes to health. I should have high cholesterol, clogged arteries, massive liver damage and more since I've been eating McD's since 3rd grade. No dice. I'm healthier than many 25 year old males. Goes to show that nutrition is only part of the circle. It's important no doubt, but one doesn't have to eat like a caveman to be healthy.

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    Umm, where did I say clean eating ensures health? Oh wait, I didn't.

    I said it's good to look at the quality of calories you're consuming as opposed to flat out quantity. Ideally, a person would want to eat healthy to feel healthy too. It's not black & white, but I'd bet $100 on black that I'd feel like crap if I ate for 3 days at McD's. Hell I'd feel like crap after eating 1 day.
  • m60kaf
    m60kaf Posts: 421 Member
    My personal experience - not what the bloke nex door says blah blah blah - is yes you can for poundage loss on the scales

    However, if at the end of the journey you want to look visually decent what you eat and the macros is key - probably more important than calories
  • I wouldn't. You'll find it hold very little nutritional value. About 3 years ago I was gymming and living off take-aways / take-out. I saw zero results from the gymming and I was always hungry, as junkfood has almost no nutritional value.

    I now eat right and gym and have seen amazing results the last 3 months. (I started gymming again 3 months ago).

    Generally it is ok to have one Cheat meal a week - a reward to sticking to a healthy diet. The rest of the week I eat Steamed veggies with Rice and either a piece of steak, chicken or fish.

    I strongly reccomend sticking to a healthy diet, you'll feel better.
  • Matt_Wild
    Matt_Wild Posts: 2,673 Member
    Yes.
  • Technically yes, you can, but you're not going to be very healthy doing so.
    Not true. I eat McDonald's at least once a week and KNOW I'm healthier than a lot of vegans, paleo, clean eaters etc. who are overweight.
    Health isn't just about food. Health is encompassed by weight, essential nutrition, exercise, rest, genetics, environment, disease resistance and happiness. Delete any one of those and you can compromise your health.

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    While I agree with your comment. I believe she is talking about you micro nutrient intake from those types of foods.
    Maybe. But most people on here believe that eating any fast food is nothing but a detriment to weight loss.

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    And you can get as technical as you want. His question was can he eat anything he wants as long as its under his calorie goal...And then proceeded to list mcdonalds and cookies. If all he eats his *kitten*, his insides are going to go *kitten* as well, and he won't be very healthy.

    Obviously adding those things in every once and a while, or even once a week, are not going to be detrimental to his health. But what if his "anything" means big macs and white chocolate macadamia nut cookies all day every day? You're telling me he will still be healthy as long as he's under his calorie goal? Bullsh*t :smile:

    Agreed!
  • m60kaf
    m60kaf Posts: 421 Member
    Also I think being able to eat fast food is a measure of how healthy the rest of your diet is - if you eat well a fast food burger will taste like the sugary disgustingness it is
  • Yes you can, although you might feel more full eating something else. I have found if I really crave something, I should just have some of it, otherwise depriving yourself can lead to indulging at a later stage. So if its within my calories I can have it, or exercise more to make up for it, then yes I do have some treats.
  • Poods71
    Poods71 Posts: 502 Member
    McDonalds goes straight to my boobs. And I don't need anymore of those! :drinker:

    I'd gladly trade.


    Me too lol
  • chrishgt4
    chrishgt4 Posts: 1,222 Member
    Basically - for weight loss yes but it won't all come from fat and you'll likely feel like crap

    For fat loss and looking good - IIFYM - so you couldn't just eat crap the whole time.

    To get the most out of exercise then even IIFYM isn't ideal. You need to eat the right things and at the right time

    e.g. sugary foods spike your insulin levels so your muscle cells take up the sugar and store it as glycogen. The problem is insulin also makes sugar be taken into fat cells and converted into fat which stints fat burning. One time when sugar works though, is straight after a workout. Those sugary foods get into your blood stream fast so your muscles can refuel.
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    Let me clarify something. I am studying to become a Registered Dietician now, so I am not giving advice with no background, just to make sure I don't seem naggy. Yes, it is okay to eat what you love. I enjoy food and have a lot of trouble controlling my diet, so I understand what it is like to crave certain types of food. Yes, you can eat McDonalds or even live on McDonalds and still lose weight. However, I have to disagree with the previous poster in a way. You will NOT be as healthy as if you ate fresh foods and kept all other parts of your lifestyle the same. Meaning, if you work out 1 hr a day, keep your health the same (drink/don't drink, etc) and were to decide between McDonalds & cookies everyday OR fresh fruits, vegetables & pasta, you would find a difference on your overall health and possibly, not surely, but possibly your life span. Many chain/fast food restaurants contain GMO's and unhealthy additives. Small choices in your diet can affect it more than you know. For example, eating margarine everyday will have different impacts than eating butter everyday. Some argue that this depends most on the trans fats (whichever has less is better) because some fats are worse than others. Some other people will argue that even if butter has more trans fat, it is better because it doesn't contain the unnatural ingredients found in a lot of margarine, which can be hard on the digestive track since they are not as natural. While McDonalds won't likely cause you to stay overweight if you eat your calories, it may have other negative effects on the body, even if you exercise routinely, because the additives and processing it goes through at not healthy either. I would say eat it, but don't eat it all the time and make sure to keep some fresh foods, like fruit & vegetables, in your diet. If you cut your favorite foods out completely, all at once, it may be difficult to stick to your new diet/lifestyle. If you ever decide to drop the less healthy foods, try to do so a little at a time.

    Yes, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing does it.

    People are arguing against eatinmg 100% junk food or 100% clean food. when most people are going to be somewher in the mioddle.

    in reality , as long as the majority of your calories are nutritionally sound, and you can still fit it into your macros and calories, then eating the odd McDonalds isn't going to harm you.

    80/20 is a great way to do it, as knowing you can still have the 20% in "junk" is what keeps many people on the straight and narrow.