One day detox?
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If someone genuinely wants me to explain more, that's fine. Although I don't like to assume, I would have to guess that a person with 7,000 posts on a fitness board would know that there are nutrients in juice, and trolling on message boards got old for me like 11 years ago.
There are many different perceptions on cleanses/ detoxes/ what people should or shouldn't eat or what method of dieting is better than another. I'm not one to judge. If someone on here happens to ask for something - be it fasting or a 1 day detox like this, I can give suggestions or opinions. They're not necessarily endorsements. If someone was asking to do something that I personally felt was dangerous or possibly detrimental to them, I wouldn't suggest them doing that.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110403090259.htm
I researched a lot before doing a juice fast and I discovered that, while there is no health benefit to long term fasting of any kind, there is science behind a 24-hour water fast. See the link above.
The easiest way to do it is to start after lunch so you only skip dinner the first day and breakfast and lunch the next. You can eat at any time after the 24 hours are up, so you can have an early dinner. It's good to do it once a month or less according to the research.
I second this. Whenever I feel like I've gotten really off track, it helps me to do a 24 hour fast to remind myself what real hunger feels like (as opposed to boredom hunger or I really want to eat everything around me hunger) and to focus on my goals etc... For me, aside from the health benefits (shown in a couple studies I'm just feeling too lazy to look up right now) there are mental (psychological?) benefits. I usually just eat an early dinner one night (5pm or so) and then stay busy the next day (not hard with school and a kid) drink plenty of water and eat again at 5pm the following night.
ETA: I include IF as part of my lifestyle anyway so this isn't too much of a stretch for me.0 -
If someone genuinely wants me to explain more, that's fine. Although I don't like to assume, I would have to guess that a person with 7,000 posts on a fitness board would know that there are nutrients in juice, and trolling on message boards got old for me like 11 years ago.
... she's not trolling, she's shared much valuable info for many people on this forum, including me. I'm willing to bet she genuinely knows more than you. :huh:0 -
OP- i can understand your feeling of over eating and feeling blaah and literally full of sh::t. Anyways a one day detox will not do anything for you. We can all argue till the cows come home if Detox/fasting has any benefits.
Now for your current situation I would do a day of very light eating of fruits/ veggies. Stay away from salt, potassium as many suggested. What makes me feel like is drinking freshly squeezed lemons with hot water. Some say it cleanses the liver. I just like how it tastes and makes me feel.0 -
I'm sure she has, and I'm sure you would, but that's not the topic that's being discussed here.0
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You might consider reading the link I gave you on the previous page. Might have saved you from using up some of your awesome insults. Now it's going to look cheap when you use them on someone who deserves it.If someone genuinely wants me to explain more, that's fine. Although I don't like to assume, I would have to guess that a person with 7,000 posts on a fitness board would know that there are nutrients in juice, and trolling on message boards got old for me like 11 years ago.
There are many different perceptions on cleanses/ detoxes/ what people should or shouldn't eat or what method of dieting is better than another. I'm not one to judge. If someone on here happens to ask for something - be it fasting or a 1 day detox like this, I can give suggestions or opinions. They're not necessarily endorsements. If someone was asking to do something that I personally felt was dangerous or possibly detrimental to them, I wouldn't suggest them doing that.
Otherwise, game on.0 -
I'm sure she has, and I'm sure you would, but that's not the topic that's being discussed here.
... she's not trolling, she's shared much valuable info for many people on this forum, including me. I'm willing to bet she genuinely knows more than you. :huh:If someone genuinely wants me to explain more, that's fine. Although I don't like to assume, I would have to guess that a person with 7,000 posts on a fitness board would know that there are nutrients in juice, and trolling on message boards got old for me like 11 years ago.0 -
I second this. Whenever I feel like I've gotten really off track, it helps me to do a 24 hour fast to remind myself what real hunger feels like (as opposed to boredom hunger or I really want to eat everything around me hunger) and to focus on my goals etc...
So..... punish your body by starving it for 24 hours because of a bad meal? That doesn't help your body.
OP: Have a look at my diary. I ate around 3000 calories yesterday, went way over on carbs, had a LOT of sodium, and then ate over my calories today, and had a lot of sodium, and I probably would reflect a "gain" if I bothered to step on the scale....
but I'm not going to step on the scale, and I'm not going to cry over 3-5lbs of water weight gained, because I know that weight loss and gain is not linear, and one or two days is not going to cause long-term damage to my weight or my health. I've been doing this (and listening to members like sarauk2sf) for months now, and have not had any lasting gain, even if 20% of the time I don't eat that well. In fact, I've maintained a loss, and have also lost inches and look better. So who cares what the scale says? And giving myself the freedom to have a "junk" meal once in awhile is really good for my sanity, to boot.
The best thing you can do is get right back to eating a good amount of calories tomorrow, eat healthy things, stay on track, and drink lots of water. Punishing yourself by fasting or trying to detox or whatever is just going to make you feel worse, physically, even if in your head you feel you need it or deserved it. That is not a good mental state to be in. A good mental state is to let it be, and keep staying the course with your normal plan.0 -
Your 'liquid diet example was:
If you drink orange juice you have Vitamin C.
She was asking about doing a detox. Liquid detoxes are usually pretty good. Flush stuff out but still get nutrients as opposed to just drinking water.Don't feel bad about gaining 3.5 lbs in a week. I just gained 2.5 lbs during the time the Superbowl was on. :bigsmile:
If you do want to do a day cleanse/ detox, liquid days are usually the best (not talking about soda of course.) Water, fresh squeezed juices, unsweetened tea, natural lemonade/ lemon water - those are the best! (Good if you want to stop a cold too.)
What would drinking liquids for a day do?
What nutrients?
Green tea has antioxidants.
Juice some veggies & get fiber.
Since you have over 7,000 posts I'm sure you picked up a couple of wrinkles in your brain in the hours upon hours you've been on this board to understand that fruit has those things in Flinstone's Chewables called "vitamins." If after 7,000+ posts you don't know what vitamins are, you could always ask Google. He's usually around to answer things like that.
"Water, fresh squeezed juices, unsweetened tea, natural lemonade/ lemon water", yet now you back peddle and add veggies and fiber.
Nutrients can actually mean macro and micronutrients, but I will assume that you mean micronutrients as I would not possibly assume that you think orange juice has protein.
So, going back to your original suggestion, orange juice covers all the nutrients you are supposed to get? Does it have a reasonable amount of:
Calcium
Potassium
Zinc
Iron
Vit A
Vit B12
Vit E
Vit K
Magesium
Riboflavin
to name but a few?
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LOL. Oh no you did-int!!
If you drink orange juice you have Vitamin C.
She was asking about doing a detox. Liquid detoxes are usually pretty good. Flush stuff out but still get nutrients as opposed to just drinking water.Don't feel bad about gaining 3.5 lbs in a week. I just gained 2.5 lbs during the time the Superbowl was on. :bigsmile:
If you do want to do a day cleanse/ detox, liquid days are usually the best (not talking about soda of course.) Water, fresh squeezed juices, unsweetened tea, natural lemonade/ lemon water - those are the best! (Good if you want to stop a cold too.)
What would drinking liquids for a day do?
What nutrients?
Green tea has antioxidants.
Juice some veggies & get fiber.
Since you have over 7,000 posts I'm sure you picked up a couple of wrinkles in your brain in the hours upon hours you've been on this board to understand that fruit has those things in Flinstone's Chewables called "vitamins." If after 7,000+ posts you don't know what vitamins are, you could always ask Google. He's usually around to answer things like that.
Sara was prompting you to think critically about what you were saying. Liquid fasting for 24 hrs is pointless, detoxing is meaningless, there are no toxins that flush out by doing it, and by juicing food rather than eating it all you're doing is mechanically predigesting food, a job your body is perfectly capable of doing, and you're increasing the glycemic load of the fruits you're juicing, which can result in blood sugar issues if you have issues with that. Good one though about the brain wrinkles and flinstones vitamins.
Re Glygemic load - especially when not eaten with other macronutrients - but of course, maybe someone should google that.0 -
LOL. Oh no you did-int!!
If you drink orange juice you have Vitamin C.
She was asking about doing a detox. Liquid detoxes are usually pretty good. Flush stuff out but still get nutrients as opposed to just drinking water.Don't feel bad about gaining 3.5 lbs in a week. I just gained 2.5 lbs during the time the Superbowl was on. :bigsmile:
If you do want to do a day cleanse/ detox, liquid days are usually the best (not talking about soda of course.) Water, fresh squeezed juices, unsweetened tea, natural lemonade/ lemon water - those are the best! (Good if you want to stop a cold too.)
What would drinking liquids for a day do?
What nutrients?
Green tea has antioxidants.
Juice some veggies & get fiber.
Since you have over 7,000 posts I'm sure you picked up a couple of wrinkles in your brain in the hours upon hours you've been on this board to understand that fruit has those things in Flinstone's Chewables called "vitamins." If after 7,000+ posts you don't know what vitamins are, you could always ask Google. He's usually around to answer things like that.
Sara was prompting you to think critically about what you were saying. Liquid fasting for 24 hrs is pointless, detoxing is meaningless, there are no toxins that flush out by doing it, and by juicing food rather than eating it all you're doing is mechanically predigesting food, a job your body is perfectly capable of doing, and you're increasing the glycemic load of the fruits you're juicing, which can result in blood sugar issues if you have issues with that. Good one though about the brain wrinkles and flinstones vitamins.
the remark about brain wrinkles is actually a compliment.
it turns out, more wrinkles (or folds) increases the surface area of the brain and it seems to correlate to better problem solving abilities and a higher IQ... in essence, more overall "processing power" in the brain because more surface area for neurons to make connections.
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/11/why-einstein-was-a-genius.html
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If someone genuinely wants me to explain more, that's fine. Although I don't like to assume, I would have to guess that a person with 7,000 posts on a fitness board would know that there are nutrients in juice, and trolling on message boards got old for me like 11 years ago.
There are many different perceptions on cleanses/ detoxes/ what people should or shouldn't eat or what method of dieting is better than another. I'm not one to judge. If someone on here happens to ask for something - be it fasting or a 1 day detox like this, I can give suggestions or opinions. They're not necessarily endorsements. If someone was asking to do something that I personally felt was dangerous or possibly detrimental to them, I wouldn't suggest them doing that.
Otherwise, game on.
I asked what nutrients someone was going to get from your :"Water, fresh squeezed juices, unsweetened tea, natural lemonade/ lemon water"
Seems like a simple non-inflammatory and completely non-trolling question and completely not deserving of personal attacks.
Being accused of being a troll when disagreeing or simply asking a question gets very old.0 -
brain wrinkles is actually a compliment.
it turns out, more wrinkles (or folds) increases the surface area of the brain and it seems to correlate to better problem solving abilities and a higher IQ... in essence, more overall "processing power" in the brain because more surface area for neurons to make connections.
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/11/why-einstein-was-a-genius.html
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WINNING. lol :laugh:0 -
We all have our opinions, which are only that - opinions. If people are very sure that their opinions are correct, so much so that they are doggedly arguing another person down about them, I would really appreciate a link to some good, scientific research to back up the facts. Otherwise there is no use in these conversations.
Here's my research:
Routine Periodic Fasting Is Good for Your Health, and Your Heart, Study Suggests.....
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110403090259.htm0 -
brain wrinkles is actually a compliment.
it turns out, more wrinkles (or folds) increases the surface area of the brain and it seems to correlate to better problem solving abilities and a higher IQ... in essence, more overall "processing power" in the brain because more surface area for neurons to make connections.
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2012/11/why-einstein-was-a-genius.html
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Lolz and :flowerforyou:0 -
I second this. Whenever I feel like I've gotten really off track, it helps me to do a 24 hour fast to remind myself what real hunger feels like (as opposed to boredom hunger or I really want to eat everything around me hunger) and to focus on my goals etc...
So..... punish your body by starving it for 24 hours because of a bad meal? That doesn't help your body.
There are just as many studies touting the health benefits of intermittent fasting and especially a single 24 hour fast as there are supporting anything else. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for the other. I was offering my opinion as something that has worked for me and can be considered by the OP. Different strokes for different folks.0 -
We all have our opinions, which are only that - opinions. If people are very sure that their opinions are correct, so much so that they are doggedly arguing another person down about them, I would really appreciate a link to some good, scientific research to back up the facts. Otherwise there is no use in these conversations.
Here's my research:
Routine Periodic Fasting Is Good for Your Health, and Your Heart, Study Suggests.....
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/04/110403090259.htm
I have absolutely no issue with 'informed' IF at all - I practice an informal version of leangains style IF myself for ease of adherence and lifestyle preferences. I am not convinced of the health benefits as the studies I have seen are also under a calorie restrictions and/or are just not long enough - it does warrant further study though as there is some indications it might be beneficial. To be clear, again, I have no issue with intermittent fasting, other than it can be more hormonal disruptive to women - and all the benefits need to be looked at in balance with all the possible negative side effects, if any.
The issue I see here is that all the OP did was eat some fast food and has some sodium bloat. But, she stayed within. or near her allotted calories from the looks of her diary and the OP was about a detox. It seems as though there are a lot of suggestions that are just not on point for this particular post such as fasts and detoxes.
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Its called a 20hour fast.
Just drink water.
Stay busy then eat 1000cal dinner and call it a day.
But you must make sure you are eating about 2k every other day.
Its amazing how it works!
If you want a daily detox, drink 1gallon of water a day and eat just below TDEE.
Youll lose fat!
i do something similar to the above after a big calorie day. what i do is called a steak day though...i learned this from some other crazy fad diet i did in the past (don't ask) but point is it gets me results.
i basically fast from 10pm (or whenever i decide to stop stuffing my face) until 6pm the next day. i only drink water during the fast. then i break the fast with a huge rib eye steak, green salad and apple for digestion. i usually see a 1-2lb drop the next day.
don't make a habit of it. it's not really meant to be a solution. it's just more of a mindset. most likely it doesn't really achieve anything other than water loss but it keeps me focused and in my mind balances out a big calorie day.0 -
Thanks for all the replies... I didn't think this was going to start a debate so sorry about that.
My stomach literally just hurt so I felt I needed something to boost.
I will take all your opinions into consideration.0 -
Does anyone know of a detox for when you've seen one too many useless detox threads? :sick:0
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Does anyone know of a detox for when you've seen one too many useless detox threads? :sick:
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