Muscle weighs more than fat (?!!!)
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Wrong. Muscle DOES weigh more than fat. 1 cubic inch of muscle WEIGHS MORE than 1 cubic inch of fat. Period.
You don't weigh yourself by cubic inches.
You may not weigh yourself by cubic inches, but you sure do judge yourself in the mirror that way, and that is also how others judge you.0 -
Humans are not assessed through 'weight by volume'.
Do your scales do this?
No.
Actually my scale measures my body fat percentage, my lean body mass, my hydration levels etc. And stop overgeneralizing. Just because some scales does not measure weight by volume doesn't mean "humans are not assessed" by any other measures. You yourself stated that some people get assessed through hydrostatic body fat testing which exactly does that. I for one and many people I know got hydrostatic body fat testing either once or multiple times.
You explicitly said in your original post that if someone is not losing weight on the scale then they are doing something wrong which most of the above posters noted that its not exactly true. Since people do get assessed by body fat percentage which do change if you build muscle and burn fat while maintaining the same weight.0 -
Humans aren't measured by volume on the bathroom scales, so the issue of 'volume is irrelevant.0
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Sadly.... yes :-(
Idiots still believe this rubbish.0 -
I stick up for trainers at the gym (and no I am not a trainer). They always take your measurements as well as your weight as well as your body fat percentage. So many times I meet these itty bitty tiny people who way more than me. Not because I have a warped sense of how I look but because they are "toned" more muscular and therefore more dense/"less fat". But a pound of feathers definetitly ways more than a pound of fat.0
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OK, here is the deal. Muscle weighs more PER CUBIC INCH than fat... THEREFORE, if you are 225 lbs and have a lower fat percentage than another person who is 225 lbs, then you will be SMALLER... You will fit in SMALLER CLOTHES... That is the argument... OF course a pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of metal BUT the volume that is taken up is much smaller for the metal than the feathers.0
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"NOTE: This isn't 'racist'.... it's a simple matter of human physiology. "
Best. Statement. Ever.0 -
Agree, 1 pound of muscle weighs 1 pound; 1 pound of fat weighs 1 pound.
However, when a person says I'm not losing weight this week, maybe I'm gaining muscle, that could be true.0 -
OK, here is the deal. Muscle weighs more PER CUBIC INCH than fat... THEREFORE, if you are 225 lbs and have a lower fat percentage than another person who is 225 lbs, then you will be SMALLER... You will fit in SMALLER CLOTHES... That is the argument... OF course a pound of feathers weighs the same as a pound of metal BUT the volume that is taken up is much smaller for the metal than the feathers.
Volume and weight are not the same thing. You basically just proved their point while trying not to prove their point.0 -
Wrong. Muscle DOES weigh more than fat. 1 cubic inch of muscle WEIGHS MORE than 1 cubic inch of fat. Period.
You don't weigh yourself by cubic inches.
No you don"t. But you really should really too much on weighing yourself on a scale either. Body composition. How clothes fit you. Your body composition may change thanks to all your hard work, but the scale numbers may stay the same... But you look a lot better in those jeans and tank top!0 -
I think the main point that is being missed is what is implied by the phrase "muscle weighs more than fat." Technically, yes, muscle weighs more than fat by volume. So, if you're weight training and lose 1 cubic inch of fat but gain 1 cubic inch of muscle you will weigh slightly more.
Totally agree0 -
However, when a person says I'm not losing weight this week, maybe I'm gaining muscle, that could be true.
One week of the scale not moving is more likely to be water retention, I bet.0 -
Racism in mufti rears its ugly head in the dress of some lame pseudo-physiological explanation.
Then Edvaldo Valerio, Bronze medal winner, shows that the OP's theory is unclothed.0 -
Just skipping along, picking nits picking nits. lalalalalalala
I just love a good nit-picking!0 -
Sadly.... yes :-(
Idiots still believe this rubbish.
You've been here since 2010. While you keep calling everyone else idiots take a minute and learn to use the QUOTE FUNCTION so the rest of us have some clue who you're talking to.0 -
"I think it takes more than a week to gain a measurable amount of muscle."
^^ THIS0 -
I am sorry but I love that a square inch of muscle weighs more than a square inch of fat. I would rather weigh more on a scale and look in the mirror and like what I see or put on smaller jeans and they fit well any day of the week!0
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"NOTE: This isn't 'racist'.... it's a simple matter of human physiology. "
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Ok, I'll say this once. If you read the phrase "muscle weighs more than fat," and argue it's false because you think someone is saying that 1 pound of muscle weighs more than 1 pound of fat, then you have some serious reading comprehension issues.
Nobody is saying 1 pound of anything weighs more than 1 pound of anything else. People are saying that BY VOLUME, muscle is heavier, which means it is possible for someone with more muscle and less fat to be heavier than someone with less muscle and more fat, yet look smaller.
It's really not a difficult concept to understand.0 -
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This is why, at Olympic Games level, no afro-carribeans win medals at swimming. Their greater body density means that they sink further into the water an create greater 'drag', so can't reach the speeds of the other swimmers.
NOTE: This isn't 'racist'.... it's a simple matter of human physiology.
I was with you up until this point. This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Athletic swimming has little to nothing to do with the ability to float. :noway: :mad:0 -
I'm just posting here so I can follow this thread at a later stage.0 -
Die stupid fat/muscle weight thread, die!
Sorry, conditioned response.0 -
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A pound of muscle weighs the same as a pound of fat which weighs the same as a pound of feathers and all those weigh the same as a pound of gold. However, they all have different densities so those four substances will take up much different volumes of space.
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^this^0 -
I'm so glad this issue is finally being discussed. It has gone unaddressed for far too long.0
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Yeh, but hang on a second, a ton of steel is heavier than a ton of feathers, right???0
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The fact that race somehow got worked into this...
magnificent.0 -
Wrong. Muscle DOES weigh more than fat. 1 cubic inch of muscle WEIGHS MORE than 1 cubic inch of fat. Period.
^this.... and people are saying 'you don't measure yourself in cubic inces'...of course you don't. but it is sitll a fact. Also, fat grows at different speeds and so does muscle and vice versa. so I ask everyone this- If you gain a 'glob' of fat vs a 'glob' of muscle... which 'glob' weighs more people?0 -
This is why, at Olympic Games level, no afro-carribeans win medals at swimming. Their greater body density means that they sink further into the water an create greater 'drag', so can't reach the speeds of the other swimmers.
NOTE: This isn't 'racist'.... it's a simple matter of human physiology.
I was with you up until this point. This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Athletic swimming has little to nothing to do with the ability to float. :noway: :mad:
And another thing... the last time I checked Olympic swimmers were not fat, therefore, your point is completely invalid!0 -
When I read this answer from a personal trainer who was asked that question I found that his answer made the best sense, at least in regards to communicating the concept in a way people can easily understand.
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