Vicious circle I call life

Options
2

Replies

  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    Options
    Breaking up a home with kids will not make it easier. It will bring in a whole new level of complication. For the sake of your children, please get some counseling. It is vital that you learn to re-connect if you're ever going to make a life for your children to model their own lives after. Please don't walk away without trying... your children deserve to have their mom and their dad all the time... not 50/50. I say this as a step-mom. Please. Try to fix it. You can't necessarily change him, but you can change you. Talk to him. Be bold. Ask him what he would like to see change... and consider what he says.

    Edited because I sounded like a jerk. Sorry.
  • Manda86
    Manda86 Posts: 1,859 Member
    Options
    He sounds like the kind of guy that would date a 17 year old when he's 30. I'm really sorry that you're having a hard time, and for the sake of you and your children I hope things improve. Things are so much more complicated when little ones are involved.
  • honey3994
    Options
    Get out while you can. You are beautiful and intellegent. Don't wait another minute. Take those kids and disapear. Good luck ,dump the loser.
  • Manda86
    Manda86 Posts: 1,859 Member
    Options
    Don't wait another minute. Take those kids and disapear.

    This is a terrible piece of advice and a great way to lose custody of her kids - surely you're not really suggesting that she kidnap his children? Regardless of their issues as a couple, she said he's a good dad, he doesn't deserve to have his kids ripped away from him.
  • styledsky
    styledsky Posts: 121 Member
    Options
    "Do you love him or is it just fear of the unknown that makes you stay??"

    ^^^ This. Best question you will EVER answer for yourself (and you can swap a hell of a lot in place of "do you love him".

    There's no advice I can give you for your situation, but I sincerely hope you discover the answer quickly and begin taking whatever steps are neccesary for you to be happy.
  • Rhonnie
    Rhonnie Posts: 506 Member
    Options
    I don't know what your education is or what job/income you have, but while you try to figure it all out be putting yourself in the best possible position to be able to make the decision not based on fear of not being able to take care of yourself and kids financially. Go to school, or work for that promotion, or go for that new job. :D
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Options
    I'm a bit confused by the OP. You're bored with what amounts to the normal nights of people that are married with kids. ...but one of your complaints is that you don't have a ring? How would jewelry make this better? If you're ready to bolt why add paperwork?

    If you want to stay stop waiting for excitement to miraculously descend from the heavens and plan an interesting evening for the 2 of you. Or the 5 of you.
  • pseudomuffin
    pseudomuffin Posts: 1,058 Member
    Options
    I was in a relationship like this (minus kids) and honestly the best thing you can do if you're not happy is leave. That might be a little complicated with children, but you're both adults and honestly if you leave he'll have to talk to you about it eventually or else a judge will.

    There's no point in just accepting that your life is miserable. He obviously doesn't respect you because he won't talk to you or marry you. My ex and I were married but he never had respect for me and basically treated me like a roommate rather than a wife. He also had a drinking problem, and while I never gave him an ultimatum, I gave him as many opportunities and blatant discussions as I could before I realized I was probably going to kill myself if I didn't leave. Please don't let yourself get in that position, it's not worth it.
  • Nataliaho
    Nataliaho Posts: 878 Member
    Options
    I'm a bit confused by the OP. You're bored with what amounts to the normal nights of people that are married with kids. ...but one of your complaints is that you don't have a ring? How would jewelry make this better? If you're ready to bolt why add paperwork?

    If you want to stay stop waiting for excitement to miraculously descend from the heavens and plan an interesting evening for the 2 of you. Or the 5 of you.

    or the one of you... seriously you don't need him to change for you to change your life. If he's doing nothing anyway leave the kids with him and go. do. something....
  • lucylousmummy
    lucylousmummy Posts: 348 Member
    Options
    i am really sorry you find yourself in this situation but honestly do you think a ring and a piece of paper is going to make it better, believe me i married for all the wrong reasons the first time, all it did was tie me to a man i didnt even like let alone love, all because i was stupid/unlucky enough to get pregnant, my ex mother in law hounded me to marry her son so her grandkid wouldnt be born out of wedlock, what can i say i was young and stupid.
    could you maybe take a break from each other so you can both figure out what you both want, perhaps after spending some time apart he will open up and talk
    good luck x
  • jesz124
    jesz124 Posts: 1,004 Member
    Options
    I don't think advice from internet strangers will really help your situation. We can all tell you about our life experiences, or give you our opinion but at the end of the day, it's your reality, you live it every day. Talk to someone who knows you both, they will be able to give you better advice.
  • Bronx_Montgomery
    Bronx_Montgomery Posts: 2,287 Member
    Options
    YOu two need to go see a therapist. There is absolutely no communication and you guys are just together because it comfortable. If you are not happy freaking do something. Complaining about it is not going to help. How is a ring going to fix the issue? NOt sure what your meaning behind this is.
  • tanyakay87
    tanyakay87 Posts: 223 Member
    Options
    I was in almost an identical situation (except with me, it was 5 years and 1 kid). He even proposed after 3 years and then felt it was okay to keep the engagement as long as possible so he wouldn't have to take the plunge. I didn't even want to get married but he convinced me and then never went through with it!

    When our baby was born, things were different for a few months but then it went back to ignoring each other, him playing xbox, me on my iPad. Our baby was the only thing that kept us together, and then I realised I didn't want my child growing up in an unhappy home. I would rather she has two homes with single parents that are both happy about life. So, I tried again with him. We tried to make date nights but that didn't really work as he was never really interested. Again, he would convince me to do them and then moan about traffic and money, etc. He never wanted to get involved with my family, and we never had sex anymore. He never talked about his feelings, ever! Eventually I gave up, packed my bags and left.

    And to be honest, we are so much more happier now. My daughter goes and visits with him on Wednesdays and every other weekend. She lives with me for the rest of the time. And she gets to experience so much more because of it. And she gets spoilt loads haha. It's been 7 months since we split up and we are so much better for it. We are still good friends, we keep in touch because of our daughter, we keep the topics strictly to her and studies though, I'm not sure I ever want to know what he gets up to with other women. And then when the time comes when and if we get serious about someone else, we will have a get together to meet up with them, seeing as that person would be spending a lot of time with my daughter. Other than that, we go about our separate lives.

    It's not all fun and games though. Sometimes I get lonely, not so much anymore, every day I get stronger, but there are still days when I miss him immensely and wonder if I did the right thing. But then I think about how much my life and his life have changed and how we would make each other miserable again, some people just aren't compatible. It is difficult being a single mom, as it is difficult for him to be a single dad, I am lucky enough to have a good supportive family, and not to mention my daughter's dad is wonderful with her so someone will take her if I am having a particularly bad day which doesn't happen often, but it's nice to know it's there.

    Sorry, turned into an essay. This is just how my life has turned out, I can't tell you what the right and wrong answer is though. It depends on you and him. I know how difficult it is to talk to a partner who doesn't pay any attention to you and who doesn't like talking to you either. What helped me was trying to see where I went wrong too. As much as we don't like to admit it, 90% of the time we are at fault just as much as our partners are. I know when I fell pregnant, I was so angry with the world because I had immense morning sickness (or all day sickness as they fail to tell you lol), I never went out because every smell made me sick, I didn't have sex with him, I went to bed as soon as I got back from work, and so he turned to the xbox to keep himself entertained. For some reason, he felt he couldn't go out and that he was being supportive by being at home with me (even if it meant that he was playing xbox in the lounge and we never spoke). Once I knew what I had done, I tried to make it right but I think we both left it too late. Communication is such a big key in a relationship and ours had none of it unfortunately. That was our major downfall.

    Anyway, I hope that this helps you in some way. In my opinion, t is always best to try your absolute hardest to make a relationship work, especially when there are kids involved. But don't beat yourself up about it if it doesn't work out and don't feel like you need to be dependant on anyone. That's what I did and it broke my confidence down so bad. Even now I am struggling to get it back together.

    Good luck with your decision, whatever you choose, and sorry again for the essay lol. x
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,735 Member
    Options
    Btw, he's 13 years older than me.

    you're 28, he's 41... face it, you got snookered. he's never going to marry you.
  • Izzwoz
    Izzwoz Posts: 348 Member
    Options
    One day a man was walking down the street on his way to work. As he walked down the street, there were dogs on just about every front porch and they all would bark as the man walked passed them. However, there was one dog that he remembered, because this dog was just sitting there and he was whimpering and whining and moaning, you know the little whimpering sounds dogs make when they are wounded or in some sort of pain. Well this particular dog was just sitting there on the front porch making those sounds.
    The man was curious as to why this dog wasn't barking like the other dogs and why he was whimpering. He couldn't figure it out, so he just kept walking to work. The next day he was in the same situation where he was walking down the street and saw the dogs once again and this same dog that was moaning and groaning the other day was doing the same thing today and he just couldn't figure it out. Well, he walked past for an entire week and every day the dog would be there moaning and groaning. So, finally, the guy got fed up, he said "let me find out what's going on."
    So he went and knocked on the door and a guy came out and said, "Yes, how may I help you?" He said, "Sir, is this your dog?" "Yes, that's my dog." "Well, what's wrong with him?" The owner of the dog said, "What do you mean?" "Well, he's been sitting here moaning and groaning, whimpering and whining for an entire week. The rest of the dogs are barking, your dog should be barking too, why is he moaning and groaning?"
    The owner said, "Well, he's actually sitting on a nail." He said, "What! Your dog is sitting on a nail. Why doesn't he get off?" "Well, it just doesn't hurt him enough."
  • Izzwoz
    Izzwoz Posts: 348 Member
    Options
    Oh, and one more thing:
    Life is not a cycle. It begins, it ends. What happens in between is yours to decide.
  • flimflamfloz
    flimflamfloz Posts: 1,980 Member
    Options
    I'm a bit confused by the OP. You're bored with what amounts to the normal nights of people that are married with kids. ...but one of your complaints is that you don't have a ring? How would jewelry make this better? If you're ready to bolt why add paperwork?

    If you want to stay stop waiting for excitement to miraculously descend from the heavens and plan an interesting evening for the 2 of you. Or the 5 of you.
    This.
  • julysbaby
    julysbaby Posts: 97 Member
    Options
    So sad this is happening. Counseling for both of you (if he won't go, then you go). I have learned that we can change our behavior and our response to other's behavior and sometimes this is a catalyst to change in a relationship. All you can do is what you can do. Be honest, be bold (it's a family you are fighting for). If you really want to, go to.school. I did. I was married and we hit hard times. Had to rely on some help for a while, but I used it to push me forward. Now I am a nurse. my husband decided to get training for a more lucrative field. I have been to some of the places you are now. I chose to fight so that I could show both myself and my children that things could be better. if things don't change, you can then make the decision to move if needed with the knowledge that you have worked toward it. I believe in miracles. Will be praying for you all.
  • jamie610811
    jamie610811 Posts: 1,735 Member
    Options
    It takes 2 to make a relationship work, simple .
    If one isn't prepared to put the same effort in then its time to move on to someone who will
    I hope he bucks his ideas up ,or you are brave enough to move on
    which ever comes first you will be much happier
  • TLEIGH33777
    TLEIGH33777 Posts: 93 Member
    Options
    Getting married isn't going to make anything better.