Vitamin D3 for weight loss?
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I had a significant Vitamin D deficiency a while back. My doc said it's the new epidemic in America. Our fear of skin cancer and all.
She told me to move my sunscreen to work, and keep walking/riding to work and see. Six months later, only minimal improvement.
She put me on 5k a day of vitamin D for six weeks and then daily regular OTC vitamin D after that.
I've been able to keep my levels high enough for a year now.
I noticed NO change in weight loss (and all the other supposed symptoms).0 -
I'm chronically vitamin D deficient (and I spend a good chunk of time in the sun). I'm not sure why. I actually need to pick up some supplements but I have not noticed any difference in weight loss whether I'm taking it or not.
Are you using sunscreens? They mostly eliminate vitamin D formation in the skin.
Nope, I'm actually pretty olive toned and tan easily and rarely burn so I only use sunscreen if I'm going to be out in the sun for an extreme period of time (like all day). I can't even remember the last time I burned.0 -
*poof* weight lost!0 -
Liquid D3 taken with a meal has a high absorption rate and would certainly be more healthy than suntanning. Extended suntanning would be overkill given that, "spending just 20 to 30 minutes in the sun induces the skin to produce approximately 10,000 IU of vitamin D, which is 50 times more than the U.S. government's recommendation of 200 IU per day."
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/294163-vitamin-d3-weight-loss/#ixzz2KX9babUW
huh, i didn't know that liquid D3 is best. by liquid do you mean gel caps? i had those at first, but now i have the hard pills. do i need to switch to gel caps?0 -
I take it because I'm at a high risk for skin cancer and therefore can't be exposed to sunlight for very long. I've been taking it for several years now. I can say that only since the beginning of January when I started counting my calories and exercising on a regular basis did I begin to lose weight. So no- definitely not, at least for me.
The Australians have discovered that using sunscreen does NOT protect against skin cancer---probably because sunscreens interfere with the D-forming processes in the skin and Vitamin D actually has a protective effect against cancers of all sorts but particularly skin cancer.
Interesting, do you know where I can find that study?0 -
I'm chronically vitamin D deficient (and I spend a good chunk of time in the sun). I'm not sure why. I actually need to pick up some supplements but I have not noticed any difference in weight loss whether I'm taking it or not.
Are you using sunscreens? They mostly eliminate vitamin D formation in the skin.
This, this and showering after sun exposure are the biggest problems I can think of if you are having D problems.0 -
my doctor put me on a vtamin D3 vitamin BUT i never take it... because i am bad and dont think of it as a necessity... BUT my vitamin D levels came up very low and i get alot of pain.. so maybe i should start taking it so i dont slowly die lol...
if it does help lose belly fat like someone said HOLY COW! ill take these everyday!!! lol because thats all the fat I have is in my belly... anyways thanks for the reminder that D3 is important... i better take my vitamin now..0 -
I heard that Vitamin D3 helps aide weight loss (speeds it up a little). I'm wondering if anyone has or is taking Vitamin D3 and if they've noticed a significant difference at all in their weight loss?
Also, if you are taking it, how much daily?
Liquid D3 taken with a meal has a high absorption rate and would certainly be more healthy than suntanning. Extended suntanning would be overkill given that, "spending just 20 to 30 minutes in the sun induces the skin to produce approximately 10,000 IU of vitamin D, which is 50 times more than the U.S. government's recommendation of 200 IU per day."
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/294163-vitamin-d3-weight-loss/#ixzz2KX9babUW
Anyhow, liquid D3 is not absorbed as well as the natural stuff. But if you are deficient, you should ingest it. I'm pretty sure that's what the governments recommendations come from. They assume you're not a vampire and go outside as well.
well, in manhattan where i live i can't get the natural stuff, so i'll stick with pills.
Also, I recommend switching to the ones in oil instead of the solid pill you're taking. It would possibly be alight if you had a higher fat intake, but on the 1200 calorie diet you're on, it may be beneficial to take the one with oil (since vitamin D is fat soluble)0 -
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Also, I recommend switching to the ones in oil instead of the solid pill you're taking. It would possibly be alight if you had a higher fat intake, but on the 1200 calorie diet you're on, it may be beneficial to take the one with oil (since vitamin D is fat soluble)
what are you talking about? i didn't misquote you or anyone else.0 -
I'm amazed that this thread has gone 2 pages without this being mentioned- If you take vitamin D you need to also take magnesium. It's an important cofactor for Vitamin D absorption, and a major underlying reason for vitamin D deficiency in the first place. You can take 1million IUs of vitamin D3 and if you're magnesium deficient won't absorb enough. People get put on higher and higher doses of D3, when they really need a lower D3 dose and a magnesium supplement. Magnesium oxide is better than Magnesium citrate, don't take the dose all at once. Most supplements come with the dose split in several pills, take them a couple times a day for best absorption. If you take more than you can absorb, it acts as a laxative.
Other symptoms that can indicate low magnesium are frequent headaches, muscle cramps- often in the neck (sometimes even having knots that won't go away for months), trouble sleeping, fatigue, sometimes constipation...basically anything where something in your body is clenched and needs to relax.0 -
@coder- I didn't know this about the showering. Genius! How long should one wait- any idea?0
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I'm amazed that this thread has gone 2 pages without this being mentioned- If you take vitamin D you need to also take magnesium. It's an important cofactor for Vitamin D absorption, and a major underlying reason for vitamin D deficiency in the first place. You can take 1million IUs of vitamin D3 and if you're magnesium deficient won't absorb enough. People get put on higher and higher doses of D3, when they really need a lower D3 dose and a magnesium supplement. Magnesium oxide is better than Magnesium citrate, don't take the dose all at once. Most supplements come with the dose split in several pills, take them a couple times a day for best absorption. If you take more than you can absorb, it acts as a laxative.
Other symptoms that can indicate low magnesium are frequent headaches, muscle cramps- often in the neck (sometimes even having knots that won't go away for months), trouble sleeping, fatigue, sometimes constipation...basically anything where something in your body is clenched and needs to relax.0 -
I'm amazed that this thread has gone 2 pages without this being mentioned- If you take vitamin D you need to also take magnesium. It's an important cofactor for Vitamin D absorption, and a major underlying reason for vitamin D deficiency in the first place. You can take 1million IUs of vitamin D3 and if you're magnesium deficient won't absorb enough. People get put on higher and higher doses of D3, when they really need a lower D3 dose and a magnesium supplement. Magnesium oxide is better than Magnesium citrate, don't take the dose all at once. Most supplements come with the dose split in several pills, take them a couple times a day for best absorption. If you take more than you can absorb, it acts as a laxative.
Other symptoms that can indicate low magnesium are frequent headaches, muscle cramps- often in the neck (sometimes even having knots that won't go away for months), trouble sleeping, fatigue, sometimes constipation...basically anything where something in your body is clenched and needs to relax.
Another indication of magnesium deficiencies are chocolate cravings! cocoa fixes this problem.0 -
When will people stop listening to hocum on the latest "miracle supplements" and just work hard on changing their habits for life, by eating well and moving around? It was raspberry ketone not long ago, some people STILL believe the acai berry crapola from forever ago... Nobody wants anything but a quick fix, it seems. Why aren't we all on 1200 calorie Slim Fast/Atkins/whatever and taking all eleventy hundred miracle tablets and supplements proven to get us our dream bodies?
Oh, because that's not how biology works.0 -
Hi,
I am taking Vitamin D3 . I have been taking D3 for about 2yrs. I live in Oklahoma. So definitely needed it per my Dr. because I don't get in the sun much.
http://www.vrp.com/bone-and-joint/vitamin-d3-higher-doses-reduce-risk-of-common-health-concerns
Try the above weblink for all you want to know. I am a redhead and have fair complexion so Vit 3 is a must for me.
Wt loss with the help of Vit D3 not sure. I take 2-1000mg of D3 daily. My Dr. recommended 60-80,00 mg per month. My Dr. even requests D3 testing when I do my fasting lab tests three times a year.
Hope this helped a little.0 -
I'm amazed that this thread has gone 2 pages without this being mentioned- If you take vitamin D you need to also take magnesium. It's an important cofactor for Vitamin D absorption, and a major underlying reason for vitamin D deficiency in the first place. You can take 1million IUs of vitamin D3 and if you're magnesium deficient won't absorb enough. People get put on higher and higher doses of D3, when they really need a lower D3 dose and a magnesium supplement. Magnesium oxide is better than Magnesium citrate, don't take the dose all at once. Most supplements come with the dose split in several pills, take them a couple times a day for best absorption. If you take more than you can absorb, it acts as a laxative.
Other symptoms that can indicate low magnesium are frequent headaches, muscle cramps- often in the neck (sometimes even having knots that won't go away for months), trouble sleeping, fatigue, sometimes constipation...basically anything where something in your body is clenched and needs to relax.
Good point about calcium, too. Magnesium's main function is being a partner with calcium in the contraction/relaxation cycle of muscles. For this reason, active people need more magnesium than sedentary people. Another indication you're not getting enough magnesium is excessive soreness after workouts.
It would be nice to think we get enough Mg from foods, but it's one of the things we have little control over in our diets. There's no conclusive way to say that a vegetable grown in one place has the same Mg content as one grown elsewhere. It's absorbed through the soil in to food, and there is a problem of chronic Mg depletion in soils...food today simply doesn't have the Mg it did 20 yrs ago.0 -
Anything will cause weight loss if you believe it will cause weight loss, whether or not it is good for you is based on proper medical intervention and research (Wikipedia does not count)0
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@coder- I didn't know this about the showering. Genius! How long should one wait- any idea?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRPsbUeT9Fs
Apparently you can find calculations somewhere in the nethers to calculate how much you get depending on your latitude and longitude and what type of year it is...As for how much it takes to absorb...
Most of us shower daily. Otherwise we feel like hobos. Unfortunately this whole gotta constantly be clean feeling we get gives us problems. From what I've read, I'm not sure if anyone knows...some indicate it takes a full 48 hours to process most of it, but the sources also seem to be in the nethers, but I'm sure you'll get some.0 -
I don't know about weight loss.
I'm taking calcium with vitamin D3 because my dentist suggested it.0 -
I'm amazed that this thread has gone 2 pages without this being mentioned- If you take vitamin D you need to also take magnesium. It's an important cofactor for Vitamin D absorption, and a major underlying reason for vitamin D deficiency in the first place. You can take 1million IUs of vitamin D3 and if you're magnesium deficient won't absorb enough. People get put on higher and higher doses of D3, when they really need a lower D3 dose and a magnesium supplement. Magnesium oxide is better than Magnesium citrate, don't take the dose all at once. Most supplements come with the dose split in several pills, take them a couple times a day for best absorption. If you take more than you can absorb, it acts as a laxative.
Other symptoms that can indicate low magnesium are frequent headaches, muscle cramps- often in the neck (sometimes even having knots that won't go away for months), trouble sleeping, fatigue, sometimes constipation...basically anything where something in your body is clenched and needs to relax.
Good point about calcium, too. Magnesium's main function is being a partner with calcium in the contraction/relaxation cycle of muscles. For this reason, active people need more magnesium than sedentary people. Another indication you're not getting enough magnesium is excessive soreness after workouts.
It would be nice to think we get enough Mg from foods, but it's one of the things we have little control over in our diets. There's no conclusive way to say that a vegetable grown in one place has the same Mg content as one grown elsewhere. It's absorbed through the soil in to food, and there is a problem of chronic Mg depletion in soils...food today simply doesn't have the Mg it did 20 yrs ago.
Magnesium is incredibly important for good mental and physical health. Supplements can be a problem because they can create gastric disturbance. One great way to get the magnesium you need is by taking Epsom salts BATHS. Our great grandparents knew that this was an excellent way to deal with sore, aching muscles---they just didn't know why. Seems that the more deficient you are in magnesium, the more you will absorb right through your skin into your bloodstream. Epsom salts are pure magnesium sulphate. The sulphate is good for us too as we tend not to get enough sulfur in our diets. If you decide to go this route, aim for two 15-minute soaks a week with water as hot as you can stand it (without burning your hide, of course). Follow package directions for the amount. I use 2 cups of Epsom salts per bath (with water about waist high).0 -
Vitamin D regulates your non specific immune system and immune system responses. To little vitamin D can lead to chronic inflamations, and other immune system responses. In basic words, your non specific immune system is the part that takes care of colds and viruses, vs infections and foreign matter. When you don't get enough vitamin D, your immune system starts seeing things that aren't threats as such...
There is no such thing as too much Vitamin D, but, you do need to get it regularily, as your body can't store it in fat like many other vitamins and minerals. The farther away from the equador, the less vit D you get from sunlight. No one in Canada gets enough vit D in the winter, period. Hence, why many foods are suplimented.
I have no idea what it does or doesn't do for weight loss (I would guess if one was chronically low on Vit D and then started suplimenting that your body would work more effiecently.)
This thread does remind me that I need to pick up more d drops (I use Sol brand... 1000 IU per drop, and no taste at all... the last ones I bought were trasported in flax oil.... not such a good texture. They became skin cream).0 -
Vitamin D regulates your non specific immune system and immune system responses. To little vitamin D can lead to chronic inflamations, and other immune system responses. In basic words, your non specific immune system is the part that takes care of colds and viruses, vs infections and foreign matter. When you don't get enough vitamin D, your immune system starts seeing things that aren't threats as such...
There is no such thing as too much Vitamin D, but, you do need to get it regularily, as your body can't store it in fat like many other vitamins and minerals. The farther away from the equador, the less vit D you get from sunlight. No one in Canada gets enough vit D in the winter, period. Hence, why many foods are suplimented.
I have no idea what it does or doesn't do for weight loss (I would guess if one was chronically low on Vit D and then started suplimenting that your body would work more effiecently.)
This thread does remind me that I need to pick up more d drops (I use Sol brand... 1000 IU per drop, and no taste at all... the last ones I bought were trasported in flax oil.... not such a good texture. They became skin cream).
I think you may be confusing vitamin D with something else. There actually is such a thing as vitamin D toxicity, and it is stored in fat cells. The half-life of vitamin D is about 2 weeks. If your primary source of vitamin D is sunlight, then the body will not convert sunlight to VitD in an amount to become toxic, but you can achive Vitamin D toxicity from supplementation. This is one reason why I suggested pairing vitamin D with magnesium for better absorption, so you're not taking an excessive amount of D that your body can't use.
Another interesting note about Vitamin D- your body stores it in fat, but is not that efficient at using it from the fat stores, obese people actually need more vitamin D than healthy-weight individuals. The vitamin D seems to get 'stuck' in the excess fat.0 -
I heard that Vitamin D3 helps aide weight loss (speeds it up a little). I'm wondering if anyone has or is taking Vitamin D3 and if they've noticed a significant difference at all in their weight loss?
Also, if you are taking it, how much daily?
Liquid D3 taken with a meal has a high absorption rate and would certainly be more healthy than suntanning. Extended suntanning would be overkill given that, "spending just 20 to 30 minutes in the sun induces the skin to produce approximately 10,000 IU of vitamin D, which is 50 times more than the U.S. government's recommendation of 200 IU per day."
Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/294163-vitamin-d3-weight-loss/#ixzz2KX9babUW
http://www.livestrong.com/article/458399-how-much-vitamin-d-is-absorbed-in-the-body-from-sunlight/
Not to mention people on this thread are already taking higher ones and mentioned you can get into the several thousands a day without doctors approval.
Anyhow, liquid D3 is not absorbed as well as the natural stuff. But if you are deficient, you should ingest it. I'm pretty sure that's what the governments recommendations come from. The comment about the amount of vitamin D produced vs what is actually absorbed well be significantly different, especially since you can get rid of a bunch by rubbing off of things and washing your hands, and nowhere could I find the amount is 10,000 IU, Which makes sense, since it really depends on a lot of factors like strength of the sun, your location, season, cloud cover, smog and time of day along with sunscreen, clothes, if your in direct or covered, or through a window etc.
The government also assumes you're not a vampire and go outside as well, so I'm assuming the "recommended daily intake" is the amount you should digest aka eat. Not to mention the U.S. government decided their recommendation was to low and changed it in 2010 to something much higher by over quadruple the amount depending on what age you are according to the amount you listed.
I stated that the Livestrong article provides its references at the end of the article. This particular piece of data is derived from the Vitamin D Council, which cites a study from researchers at Boston University Medical Center; the variance between the two articles on how much D3 is absorbed is not out of error, but because of the variables such as skin phototype, season, latitude, etc (which you yourself touch on, so I'm not sure why the variance was confounding). And I certainly never suggested that I'm worried about people overdosing on D3; rather, suntanning has clear cancer risks entirely unrelated to vitamin D absorption.
I don't think there's actually any difference in our two party lines here: we agree that liquid D3 supplements may be necessary for those with deficiencies, and that there's no need to turn yourself into a lobster trying to get it. And, most important to this thread, that it's not any kind of weight loss miracle.
The research backing the Vitamin D Council comes from:
Holick M.F., Chen T.C., Lu Z., Sauter E. Vitamin D and skin physiology: a D-lightful story. J Bone Miner Res. 2007 Dec; 22 (Suppl 2): V28-33.
Holick M.F. Environmental factors that influence the cutaneous production of vitamin D. Am J Clin Nutr. 1995 Mar; 61 (3 Suppl): 638S-645S.
Webb A.R., Kline L., Holick M.F. Influence of season and latitude on the cutaneous synthesis of vitamin D3: exposure to winter sunlight in Boston and Edmonton will not promote vitamin D3 synthesis in human skin. J Clin Endo Met. 1988; 67 (2): 373-378.
Ladizesky M., Lu Z., Oliveri B., San Roman N., Diaz S., Holick M.F., Mautalen C. Solar ultraviolet B radiation and photoproduction of vitamin D3 in central and southern areas of Argentina. J Bone Miner Res. 1995 Apr; 10 (4): 545-9.
Pettifor J.M., Moodley G.P., Hough F.S., Koch H., Chen T., Lu Z., Holick M.F. The effect of season and latitude on in vitro vitamin D formation by sunlight in South Africa. S Afr Med J. 1996; 86 (10): 1270-1270.
Signorello LB, Williams SM, Zheng W, Smith JR, Long J, Cai Q, Hargreaves MK, Hollis BW, Blot WJ Blood vitamin d levels in relation to genetic estimation of African ancestry. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2010 Sep; 19 (9): 2325-31.
Terushkin V., Bender A., Psaty E.L., Engelsen O., Wang S.Q., Halpern A.C. Estimated equivalency of vitamin D production from natural sun exposure versus oral vitamin D supplementation across seasons at two US latitudes. J Am Acad Dermatol. 2010 June; 62 (6): 929.e1-9.
Edvardsen K, Brustad M, Engelsen O, Aksnes L The solar UV radiation level needed for cutaneous production of vitamin D3 in the face. A study conducted among subjects living at a high latitude (68 degrees N). Photochemical and Photobiological Sciences. 2007 Jan; 6 (1): 57-62.
Tangpricha V., Turner A., Spina C., Decastro S., Chen T.C., Holick M.F. Tanning is associated with optimal vitamin D status (serum 25-hydroxyvitamin D concentration) and higher bone mineral density. Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Dec; 80 (6): 1645-9.
Koutkia P., Lu Z., Chen T.C., Holick M.F. Treatment of vitamin D deficiency due to Crohn's disease with tanning bed ultraviolet B radiation. Gastroenterology. 2001 Dec; 121 (6): 1485-8.
That should certainly be reassuring. You can also buy liquid D3 (which clearly references oil-based D3) in the thousands without prescription. The only benefits of the prescription for it is that insurance may cover the cost vs. buying it over-the-counter.0 -
Vitamin D regulates your non specific immune system and immune system responses. To little vitamin D can lead to chronic inflamations, and other immune system responses. In basic words, your non specific immune system is the part that takes care of colds and viruses, vs infections and foreign matter. When you don't get enough vitamin D, your immune system starts seeing things that aren't threats as such...
There is no such thing as too much Vitamin D, but, you do need to get it regularily, as your body can't store it in fat like many other vitamins and minerals. The farther away from the equador, the less vit D you get from sunlight. No one in Canada gets enough vit D in the winter, period. Hence, why many foods are suplimented.
I have no idea what it does or doesn't do for weight loss (I would guess if one was chronically low on Vit D and then started suplimenting that your body would work more effiecently.)
This thread does remind me that I need to pick up more d drops (I use Sol brand... 1000 IU per drop, and no taste at all... the last ones I bought were trasported in flax oil.... not such a good texture. They became skin cream).0 -
Vitamin D regulates your non specific immune system and immune system responses. To little vitamin D can lead to chronic inflamations, and other immune system responses. In basic words, your non specific immune system is the part that takes care of colds and viruses, vs infections and foreign matter. When you don't get enough vitamin D, your immune system starts seeing things that aren't threats as such...
There is no such thing as too much Vitamin D, but, you do need to get it regularily, as your body can't store it in fat like many other vitamins and minerals. The farther away from the equador, the less vit D you get from sunlight. No one in Canada gets enough vit D in the winter, period. Hence, why many foods are suplimented.
I have no idea what it does or doesn't do for weight loss (I would guess if one was chronically low on Vit D and then started suplimenting that your body would work more effiecently.)
This thread does remind me that I need to pick up more d drops (I use Sol brand... 1000 IU per drop, and no taste at all... the last ones I bought were trasported in flax oil.... not such a good texture. They became skin cream).
Yes, I wouldn't go over 10,000 units a day without a doc's okay and supervision. They will sometimes okay a very high dose for a short period of time to get levels up--if they are very low. I personally, never take more than 5,000 units a day. I read that the Canadian Cancer Society recently recommended that Canadians should up their Vitamin D levels to 2,000 units a day to prevent cancer. One problem with getting too high a level of Vitamin D supplementation is that it can mess with mineral balances (like magnesium) so it is best to get a doc to check your level before you do a lot of supplementing. I typically take 4,000 units a day and have recently had my level checked---was right in the middle of the range. Not high at all. The body has ways to quickly rid itself of excess Vitamin D. A rebound deficiency can occur if Vitamin D is abruptly stopped. Best to increase gradually and decrease gradually as well.0 -
My first week taking 2000iu formula vitamin d3 gummies I dropped three pounds and felt better!! Once I stopped taking them I felt cruddy and my weightloss hit a plateau again.. Needless to say, I'm back on the gummies now!! (I'm currently using vitafusion) =]0
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Vit D is fat soluble, so yes you can overdose on it. My levels were dangerously low, so I was put on 100,000 (yes a hundred thousand) IUs for a few weeks, and then tapered to a maintenance dose over a period of a few months. My blood levels are almost normal now. My body just does not produce Vit D very well apparently! I don't think there is really much in the way of weight loss per se, but if you are legitimately deficient you may notice an increase in energy as you approach normal and THAT could help with weight loss as there is more energy to exercise!0
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