ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT WEIGHT LOSS!!! GREATEST THREAD EVER!!
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does it always have to be calories per day to loose weight or can I (pretty please) eat under my calories for 5 days and then over for 2 days but all the while maintaining my weekly calorie goal?
I practice the Daily approach to under eating my calories but the 5:2 diet which incorporates 2 days of fasting plus 5 days of normal eating, proves that yes, averaging it per week does have benefits and will work. Whether it's a slower or quicker method to aid your weight loss can only be proven by trial and error!
Do you do a fast 2 days a week as well as 16/8?0 -
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Fantastic Thread! Thank you x0
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Sorry, but this only works if you are close to a healthy weight and BF%. A 5'3", 300 pound obese woman would NOT lose weight eating 3000 calories a day! Or even maintain on that amount.
Body composition plays a HUGE part in your BMR.
Sorry, there are no simple one-size-fits-all answers.
i agree more with this - that is why those formulas are bogus. My FAT does not burn many calories at rest.0 -
LMFAO and that's only after page 2! Going to save this one for later.:laugh:0
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To set up your generic fat-loss diet calorie intake, all you need to is take your current body weight in LBS and multiply it by 10 or 12 calories. The number you see is your GUIDELINE maintenance calorie intake. It’s not perfect, like I said, we’re all different. IT’S A GUIDE. So in order to lose weight, at the end of every single day, you’re body needs to be at a caloric DEFICIT. This means you EAT UNDER THE AMOUNT of calories your body needs to maintain itself. SIMPLE. They say around 300-500 calories is recommended. If you do the math, stick to it and apply some exercise, you’ll lose weight.
No.
Only if she is burning around 1500 cals a day in the gym, and lifting heavy weights.
If she is your average middle aged, sedentary woman, at that weight and height, she is close to 70% BF. Her BMR would be around 1250 and sedentary TDEE would put her only around 1500.
The common misconception that body weight alone determines your BMR, is so misleading and confusing for many people trying to lose weight. Body Fat tissue burns very few calories compared to muscle tissue.
You compare this woman to a 300 pound male body builder with 7% body fat, and his BMR is over 3100 and his sedentary TDEE would be over 3700. Add his daily workouts to the equation and he would probably need 8-10k cals a day to maintain.
You just cannot make a blanket statement that everyone would maintain or lose on 10-12 times their body weight. That is just ridiculous.
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Here, try this site
http://www.hussman.org/fitness/bmrcalc.htm
or this one
http://www.cordianet.com/calculator.htm
These both have calculators that figure your BMR based on BF%
On the Hussman Fitness site, he explains the 'Rule of Thumb' calculating method for BMR is 9-11 cals per pound of LEAN BODY MASS, not total body weight.0 -
I liked your advice for everyone! Then when you said it was rubbish I was SO confused! LMAO! ****ty joke tho...lol hey, you tried! This is a good thread for all of that. Thx0
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Also, it's unkind and inaccurate to assume we "HUGE" people have been sucking down fast food and chocolate. Pfffft.
Apologies if I offended.
You'd be a fool to think that fast food and sweets weren't responsible for large portion of the planets obesity issues. That's all I was getting at.0 -
Hi Tricksee,I'd like to ask about intermittent fasting!I've heard about it before but I was motivated to give it a shot after I saw you've met with success with this method (from your profile). You once replied to a post i put up about weight loss so it led me to your profile (not a stalker . and I was impressed by the weight loss results you achieved . i read up on it a bit, bt wanted to hear from someone who'd tried it firsthand!
What I'd like to know is in the 16/8 method is it everyday or alternate days? Also do you need to meet the caloric requirements in the allowed time, or is it ok to eat only if you're hungry?
Does it get easier with time? I'm on day 2 eating between 10am and 6pm and I know its ok to have tea and water meanwhile but I'm embarassed to say I feel hungry at around 11pm when I'd usually be having an orange or apple.
Does the diet have to be 'healthy' or can it be everyday food as long as you meet your caloric requirements.
I know its like a thousand questions all at once so I really appreciate this ! Thanks0 -
Dude, who are you?
That's easy, He's Jesse Pinkman!0 -
Dude, who are you?
That's easy, He's Jesse Pinkman!0 -
Sooooooo guess what I do for loosing weight & getting in shape?
I eat healthy (but I also drink beer and eat pizza on occassion) - Do some serious cardio & HIIT....and SUCCESS!! its much easier that one would think. Never really bothered with all these gimmicky diets & supplements.
p.s love this guys enthusiasum! best thread everrrrr0 -
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advice on weak abdominal wall?
I did this and saw great results. As you progress increase the length of time and number of reps as you feel comfortable to keep your body guessing
I'm going to try this.
But what is. A bridge0 -
OP, extremely entertaining thread, but "Greatest Thread Ever"???? C'mon, not by a long shot. What, did you miss the 300 page "which weighs more a pound of muscle or a pound of fat" thread? Absolutely riveting stuff. Sorry, you're a distant second to that tome.
Thanks, really enjoyed it!!!0 -
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Interesting how you haven't responded to the question of "who are you?" Why should anyone listen to what you have to say? What is your background? Anyone that has googled info can sound like they know what they are talking about but it doesn't make it so.
Move along lady. I'm enjoying this thread
Move on lady!!!
I'm enjoying this post.0 -
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advice on weak abdominal wall?
I did this and saw great results. As you progress increase the length of time and number of reps as you feel comfortable to keep your body guessing
I'm going to try this.
But what is. A bridge
The bridge is when you lie down on your back, bend your knees, feet flat on the floor and lift your butt off the floor, tightening your glutes. :flowerforyou:0 -
Dude, who are you?
That's easy, He's Jesse Pinkman!
More comments are needed on this.... YO!!0 -
extremely entertaining thread, but "Greatest Thread Ever"???? C'mon, not by a long shot.
Time will tell.0 -
after I saw you've met with success with this method (from your profile)You once replied to a post i put up about weight loss so it led me to your profile (not a stalker .
Not a stalker? Keep telling yourself that, lady. And stay off my lawn at 3am or I'm calling the police...Hi Tricksee,I'd like to ask about intermittent fasting!I've heard about it before but I was motivated to give it a shot after I saw you've met with success with this method (from your profile). You once replied to a post i put up about weight loss so it led me to your profile (not a stalker . and I was impressed by the weight loss results you achieved . i read up on it a bit, bt wanted to hear from someone who'd tried it firsthand!
What I'd like to know is in the 16/8 method is it everyday or alternate days? Also do you need to meet the caloric requirements in the allowed time, or is it ok to eat only if you're hungry?
Does it get easier with time? I'm on day 2 eating between 10am and 6pm and I know its ok to have tea and water meanwhile but I'm embarassed to say I feel hungry at around 11pm when I'd usually be having an orange or apple.
Does the diet have to be 'healthy' or can it be everyday food as long as you meet your caloric requirements.
I know its like a thousand questions all at once so I really appreciate this ! Thanks
You can ask me ANYTHING about Intermittent Fasting, sister!
Welcome to the greatest thread in the history of the universe! Which shockingly, is only going to get better!
That's right you nay-sayers and other scrutinizing clowns tearing apart my every word, picking out inaccuracies and errors that don't agree with your google-searches... IT'S GOING TO GET BETTER!! Whether you like it or not.
If you don't like the advice, don't read it and jog on. It's that simple.
In the mean time, let me back to answering questions!
So yeah, Intermittent Fasting. Let me break your post down into sections since it looks like a damn NOVEL!!!What I'd like to know is in the 16/8 method is it everyday or alternate days?
The 16/8 method I practice is every single day. Sometimes if I'm not particularly hungry at the start of my eating window, I'll push it forward a little, say 17 or 18 hours sometimes. I'm not really as regimented or anal about the times anymore - I just make sure I get at LEAST 16 hours of fasting in.Also do you need to meet the caloric requirements in the allowed time, or is it ok to eat only if you're hungry?
A bit of both, but for a beginner, I'd say stick to your calories as best you can. Some say they have trouble fitting the calories into such a short period of time. If that happens to you, and you eat UNDER your calorie goal by a few hundred? Don't worry about it. You're not going to go into STARVATION MODE like stupid people will tell you. You will be fine. As you progress and your body adapts to eating schedule, just eating when you're hungry is OK. Some days you'll eat more than others and that's how it should be. YOUR BODY WILL TELL YOU.
That's what's great about I.F - You'll be so in tune with your body and it's needs that you won't need to track your calories, macros or eat every 2-3 hours like the rest of the people you know who's bodies FALSELY dictate when and what they eat.Does it get easier with time?
Yes. I found it tough at first but after around a week my hunger pangs settled. These days I could do a 24 hour fast and not even think about food. (OK, maybe I'd think about it, but I could resist it for 24 hours If I wanted)Does the diet have to be 'healthy' or can it be everyday food as long as you meet your caloric requirements.
This may cause some conflict, but what would the greatest thread in the history of mankind be without conflict?
From MY EXPERIENCE, I'm going to say it doesn't matter. I eat rubbish all the time. Just last week I ate 2 packs of caramel waffles plus my usual lunch, dinner, tea etc... I woke up the morning after and still lost a few ounces.
The good thing about I.F, I find is that the FASTING WINDOW allows you to enjoy the things you'd have to avoid a lot more on any other DIET.
I.F isn't really a diet though, I don't think. A diet being selecting foods for weight-loss whereas fasting is more of a schedule.
an 'Eat now and not then' thing. It didn't matter what I ate in my eating window.
I'd suggest 50/50 though. Eat what you enjoy but a few times a day, make some GOOD HEALTHY CHOICES too. The healthy choices and the fasting period will make you lose weight.I'm embarassed to say I feel hungry at around 11pm when I'd usually be having an orange or apple.
Aw, don't be embarrassed. Have a huge glass of water or cup of tea (No Milk) to fill up the space and look forward to the apple/orange when your eating window opens.0 -
At so much, am learning to readjust eating, jacq0
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At so much, am learning to readjust eating, jacq
I don't understand that. Did you type it with your face?0 -
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At so much, am learning to readjust eating, jacq
I don't understand that. Did you type it with your face?
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DebbieLynn: Excellent points! I don't know why anyone would prefer misinformation over a slew of easy to use online BMR/TDEE calculators (that are, even with their own erros, significantly more informed than this post). The point you bring up about a 300lb bodybuilder vs. a 300lb morbidly obese and sedentary woman perfectly encapsulates the error in the OP's method. I don't know how anyone could say that certain variables considered in those calculators are irrelevant (age, body fat %, etc). It's just shocking.
Did you actually read the article I linked before you fell off your chair in horror?
Sure you can use Miflin St Joer to calculate BMR. Or Katch Mcardle if you know your BF%. Or Harris Benedict if you have a good handle on your activity multipliers.
The point is that for most people this level of detail is not particularly necessary. They are just estimates. Sure they may be a little more accurate relatively than the 10 cals per 1lb of total body weight method but that is missing the wood for the trees.
All most people really need when starting off on their fat loss quest is a reasonable starting figure. They can then tweak as necessary depending on progress. So many people become obsessed over whether they are eating the exact number of calories needed whilst forgetting that all these equations generate estimates and calorie needs are variable, from day to day and even from month to month (particularly due to changes in activity levels.) Sometimes obsession may be good (athlete needing to make a weight class for example) but for the average person that mindset can be rather unhealthy.
So what happens to our 300 lbs lady eating 3,000 calories per day if her weight loss is exceedingly slow? Simple. She cuts calories per week until she is at a calorie sweet spot where her weight is dropping nicely without too much impact on mood and the ability to perform day to day functions or exercise.
The benefit of starting a little high (which admittedly this does) is that all diets whether you do low calorie or higher have an adaptive component. Your body craves homeostasis. Part of this is a function of loss of body weight, part is due to the suitability of calorie deficits. Therefore if you start high then when this kicks in you still have plenty of calories to cut from. If you start at the lowest intake possible then you don't have much flexibility before you start reaching a calorie level which is very difficult to keep to psychologically and physiologically. More options are better than less.
Keeping an open mind, keeping things simple and allowing yourself more flexibility over rigidity tend to work very well for most people.
Shocking innit?
(*all the above presumes no medical / metabolic conditions as I have stated before*)0
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