i dont understand some people here
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i agree OP. people have all types or personalities. I just stick with those who act like mature adults and can behave. stay away from the ones who act rude.
Is blunt honesty rude? Or would you rather people lie to you to make you feel better?0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/893358-the-difference-between-being-mean-and-having-an-opinion
This is a very good thread to read regarding this topic, which comes up multiple times a day.0 -
Yes- Let's act like adults, shall we? Last time I checked, adults don't whine and cry and stomp their feet every time someone disagrees with them or makes a joke they don't like. Adults do not run around snitching on other people, trying to get them punished for some small offense. Adults don't call meetings to rant every time someone they know hurts their feelings. An adult should - when they see or hear something they don't like - be able to have the self control to ignore it and move onto something else.
Just because we're all here to lose weight/improve our fitness does not make us all compatible. Do you like everyone in real life? I sure as hell don't. So why would I like everyone on this site?
I think I love you.0 -
I personally hold honesty to be the highest form of respect. And the people who challenge or confront people spreading misinformation to be the Defenders of the Realm.0
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Don't be suprised if you encounter people who are suddenly empowered after losing weight, after a lifetime of being fat and introverted.0
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Even you were really writing an article, which I kind of doubt, your methods (however informal) should bring up some ethical questions for you. At least I would hope so.0 -
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Sounds like a cop-out to me ... add another tally to your negatives0 -
Unfortunately, some people cannot figure out how to be both honest AND polite, so they feel they get a pass to be rude, since they're "just being honest". I think in general, the advice to just focus on the positive & truly supportive people is the way to go. Thankfully, we don't have to interact with those who don't know how to have positive interactions.0
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Unfortunately, some people cannot figure out how to be both honest AND polite, so they feel they get a pass to be rude, since they're "just being honest". I think in general, the advice to just focus on the positive & truly supportive people is the way to go. Thankfully, we don't have to interact with those who don't know how to have positive interactions.
So you are essentially advocating ignoring the elephant in the room?0 -
Some people can be opinionated to the point of being mean, others are just mean for the sake of it. Sadly this is the internet, and no matter where you are you'll find mean people.
I totally agree with Ms Noodles.
My advice is, literally IGNORE their postings. Move your eyes to the next one and forget what was written by the mean person. Don't bait them by replying.0 -
I do think it was a bit rude and unethical for you to post this for research for an article without stating that upfront. Seems kind of slimmy too me.0
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In all fairness, something like this would NEED to be conducted anonymously to avoid intentional behavior modification.0
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In all fairness, something like this would NEED to be conducted anonymously to avoid intentional behavior modification.
Good Point.0 -
Some people have never learned about tact and diplomacy as a motivator , that being rude or demeaning someone is a greater incentive. Much like military training. Chalk it up to learned behaviour, not that I'm trying to defend that behaviour. You can choose to be offended by it or not let it take control of your feelings. We like to believe in adult behaviour as logic, fair, tactful etc. The "mean" reality to this is that it's adults that have created a cruel environment for others.0
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People don't get any less bratty and petty with age, they just learn how to function politely in public. Since the internet is pretty consequence-free, people act however they want to. "Be an adult" is such a joke. Adults create war, poverty, abuse, etc.0
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Most people who initiate these type of threads, know what to expect (because there are soooo many of them), and sometimes do so just to get people stirred up. It's a public forum - human nature for people to give their opinions, good or bad, nice or mean - if you don't like it, you should not be part of a public media-site.0 -
I do think it was a bit rude and unethical for you to post this for research for an article without stating that upfront. Seems kind of slimmy too me.
Oh, is that what's going on here ? No wonder my youthful generation said don't trust anyone over 30. Now I'm 61 and things havn't changed lolol0 -
Some people just like to ***** about everything, yes positive is what we need, hope when I suggested things I have learnt it is not taken negatively. I just like to help people after spending years with trainers etc.0
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Also, why do you state multiple times what your intention of the original post was (wish for more positive people, not to rant, be more positive, stand up for what you believe in, etc.) But only near the end of your posts do you "come clean" and reveal that this was all for an article? You are misleading your audience. I'm sure you had good intentions, but I don't trust your explanation.0 -
Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Also, why do you state multiple times what your intention of the original post was (wish for more positive people, not to rant, be more positive, stand up for what you believe in, etc.) But only near the end of your posts do you "come clean" and reveal that this was all for an article? You are misleading your audience. I'm sure you had good intentions, but I don't trust your explanation.
Maybe we should all charge for consulting fees ?0 -
Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Also, why do you state multiple times what your intention of the original post was (wish for more positive people, not to rant, be more positive, stand up for what you believe in, etc.) But only near the end of your posts do you "come clean" and reveal that this was all for an article? You are misleading your audience. I'm sure you had good intentions, but I don't trust your explanation.
To get a reaction. It was very unethical I agree. It may be slimmy. I didn't not intend to create havoc here. I said early on that I did this not only cause I feel this way but for a paper. I do think people are rude, my opinion. But I also did not fire things up and state my true opinion, because for one, I really don't like to argue with people i dont know over the internet. It doesn't get you anywhere. But on the other side the reactions to my post were as I expected. I am no saint, I am just an average person like the rest of you. I have goals, a family, and a life. We don't live in a world where positive overcomes the negatives. I do not wish to have anyone upset over this post. I am apologising. Except it or not. Thank you all again! Been a big help in many ways. Good luck to all of you!
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Also, why do you state multiple times what your intention of the original post was (wish for more positive people, not to rant, be more positive, stand up for what you believe in, etc.) But only near the end of your posts do you "come clean" and reveal that this was all for an article? You are misleading your audience. I'm sure you had good intentions, but I don't trust your explanation.
To get a reaction. It was very unethical I agree. It may be slimmy. I didn't not intend to create havoc here. I said early on that I did this not only cause I feel this way but for a paper. I do think people are rude, my opinion. But I also did not fire things up and state my true opinion, because for one, I really don't like to argue with people i dont know over the internet. It doesn't get you anywhere. But on the other side the reactions to my post were as I expected. I am no saint, I am just an average person like the rest of you. I have goals, a family, and a life. We don't live in a world where positive overcomes the negatives. I do not wish to have anyone upset over this post. I am apologising. Except it or not. Thank you all again! Been a big help in many ways. Good luck to all of you!
-Stephanie
But you didn't gather any data, qualitative or otherwise, of any sufficient amount to do anything useful. More offensive than being dishonest, you're being sloppy. Shame on you.0 -
Yeah, this post is kinda like putting some bacteria or germ in a petri dish, and in order to get "better" results, you keep adding more stuff to the dish, instead of just observing the initial reaction. Talk about leading the witness, or specimens, in this case.0
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I hope for your sake that it wasn't a paper for a university level course. This sort of "research" would never be accepted. Even surveys often require IRB approval, and when they don't you are required to get a waiver. If you don't know what an IRB is, you likely are not in a place that is actually encouraging real research. Be careful submitting this as research as well, as the nature by which you instigated the thread could actually wind up reflecting poorly on you as a researcher and writer.0
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Well everyone! Thanks for your input! I am actually doing an article for human behavior/reactions. I posted this because yes I think people can be rude but I also posted because I needed to see how many different personalities collide with this statement. You all showed very many different reactions to my post. A lot of negatives and some positives. Its a proven fact that the average human thinks more negatives than positives. Good luck to everyone in their weight loss journey!
Also, why do you state multiple times what your intention of the original post was (wish for more positive people, not to rant, be more positive, stand up for what you believe in, etc.) But only near the end of your posts do you "come clean" and reveal that this was all for an article? You are misleading your audience. I'm sure you had good intentions, but I don't trust your explanation.
To get a reaction. It was very unethical I agree. It may be slimmy. I didn't not intend to create havoc here. I said early on that I did this not only cause I feel this way but for a paper. I do think people are rude, my opinion. But I also did not fire things up and state my true opinion, because for one, I really don't like to argue with people i dont know over the internet. It doesn't get you anywhere. But on the other side the reactions to my post were as I expected. I am no saint, I am just an average person like the rest of you. I have goals, a family, and a life. We don't live in a world where positive overcomes the negatives. I do not wish to have anyone upset over this post. I am apologising. Except it or not. Thank you all again! Been a big help in many ways. Good luck to all of you!
-Stephanie
But you didn't gather any data, qualitative or otherwise, of any sufficient amount to do anything useful. More offensive than being dishonest, you're being sloppy. Shame on you.
MFP could probably sue as they likely own the property rights to the posts0 -
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But you didn't gather any data, qualitative or otherwise, of any sufficient amount to do anything useful. More offensive than being dishonest, you're being sloppy. Shame on you.
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This exactly.0 -
Mean people thread #1,379.
I'm not even going to finish reading it. These are getting tiresome.0
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